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[Paul Taylor]

This appeared on Barrie Maskell's website some years ago and we really need to put it to rest.

 

It was printed on Barrie's page mentioning his visit to Rouen in 1970 where he didn't qualify and briefly talks of the last time he saw Denis Dayan, who was killed in that race. Hence my colleagues have long believed this was Dayan's crash. The thing is, we're struggling to match it up with the aftermath photos printed on the Denis Dayan website here: LINK

 

 

The armco style matches Rouen post-1968 when it was installed following Schlesser's crash. The damage to the car is about the same. HOWEVER...

 

First problem - there's nothing to suggest the car was launched skyward.

Secondly - there's nothing to suggest Dayan was ejected from the car. which appears to be happening in the photo.

Thirdly - There seems to be no damage to the armco as per the aftermath images.

Fourthly - When you look at the car still on track, it's hard to imagine where the cameraman would be positioned in order to see it from that angle.

And finally, those white sections behind look like the banners you would see on the banking at Turn 1, but YouTube footage shows there weren't any at Six Freres.that weekend.

 

I've ruled out it being the Salamon fatal crash having seen footage and Wollek's crash on lap 13 was at Scierie and he ended up in the trees. The surroundings in this photo don't match Scierie. 

 

So what do you think it could be? Dayan? A crash in another event? Perhaps even a mocked-up, "faked" photo?

[mistareno]

Is it possibly a mirror image taken from an old slide?

That would put the damaged armco off to the Right (on that photo).

 

Is that car coming towards the camera? If so, that would put the photographer at the normal place looking down towards that corner. I'll flip the image at home and see if it matches.

Edited by mistareno, 28 July 2016 - 05:11.

[LittleChris]

Possibly Jean Blanc 1969 F3 race - Barrie was there that year

http://8w.forix.com/rouen-69.html

Was there a couple of days ago but hardly worth bothering anymore, though inevitably I will when in the area.

Edited by LittleChris, 03 August 2016 - 21:39.

[William Hunt]

The extremely talented Frenchman Jean-Luc Salomon (who was no doubt going to race for Lotus in F1 later, Chapman wanted to sign him) died in exactly the same race as Denis Dayen did. But the car in the picture doest not look like Salmon's car, which was yellow with red coloured (Shell colours in fact since he had won Volant Shell). So it could be Jean Blanc in that picture, we never got confirmation of that?

[LittleChris]

Salomon's car rolled into a ditch on the right hand side of the road between Scierie and Paradis so the background in the picture doesn't fit.