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#1 Doug Nye

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Posted 24 August 2016 - 18:20

Can anyone fill in biographical detail for 'Nick' Haines - apparently born and raised in Rose Bay, Sydney, Australia, from 1940 RAF navigator with 2nd Squadron Tactical Air Force in England - apparently postwar became a car dealer in London and also in Belgium where he was the distributor for Healey and went into partnership with Joska Bourgeois - the Belgian Jaguar distributor lady.  There is a story that she had to have a UK partner but, typically, subsequently parted from him - and he seems thereafter to have vanished into obscurity.

 

Or do you know better?

 

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#2 Vitesse2

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Posted 24 August 2016 - 19:29

Well, if I've found the right chap in the London Gazette, his full name was Leonard Harry Haines. RAF service number 104565. Flight Sergeant, 1941, Flying Officer (war subs) 1942, Flight Lieutenant (war subs) 1943. Remained on the Reserve List as Flt Lt until 1956.

 

He's not on the Australian forces nominal roll but his brother(?) appears to have served in the RAAF as an L/Ac: http://www.ww2roll.g...eteranId=979001



#3 Oneandhalf

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Posted 24 August 2016 - 19:43

Corriere dello Sport, 10 march 1950
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#4 Doug Nye

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Posted 24 August 2016 - 19:52

Good Heavens!!!!

 

The above post is a real surprise...which has quite made my day...thank you.

 

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#5 D-Type

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Posted 24 August 2016 - 20:21

Obviously an early "taster" for the Belgian GP.  Any ideas who "Clark" was?



#6 Oneandhalf

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Posted 24 August 2016 - 20:40

Motorsport, #4/1950:

The drivers for the H.W.M. team be Heath, George Abecassis, and Stirling Moss on a professional basis, backed up at Le Mans by Peter Clark, Nick Haines and the earnest young Belgian, Johnny Claes.


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#7 Doug Nye

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Posted 24 August 2016 - 21:24

Aah yes - the mass media have never been good with mere initials...   :cool:

 

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#8 ChrisD

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Posted 25 August 2016 - 16:26

Nick Haines drove in the Mille Miglia a couple of times, his first race being the 1948 MM in a Healey Elliot along with Rudolfo (Rudi) Haller.  I posted on TNF a while back for information on Haller, but not a lot was forthcoming.

 

With regard to Nick Haines, there are a number references to him driving factory cars in the Mille Miglia (1950, DNF, accident), Le Mans and various other races, in Andrew Whyte's book "Jaguar: sports racing & works competition cars to 1953".  However, there is no mini-biography of him in the chapter on works drivers.  The only reference to him other than his race performances come at the start of Chapter 6 of Whyte's book, which starts:

 

"Of the first six works prepared Jaguar XK 120s, only two were ever used for rallying. 

 

One of them, Nick Hayne's car, had a very short rally career ....

 

A month after finishing twelfth at Le Mans, Haines was back in France to take part in the Alpine Rally.

 

The Australian proprietor of a London garage, who helped set up Jaguar's Belgian agency, Haines seems to have been game for anything - at least until his TT accident ......"

 

That only confirms but does not add to the previous posts.  There  are also a couple of references to Nick Haines Belgian registered XK which was raced by other people, but no further details.

 

Anthony Pritchard, in his book Mille Miglia, refers to " ... the Belgian Aston Martin agent, L H (Nick) Haines ...". That was in respect of the 1948 MM when Haines drove the Healey Elliot.  Whether he was the Belgian agent at the time of the '48 MM is not clear.   

 

Haines drove one of the three Aston Martin DB2s at their first Le Mans attempt in 1949, and his was the only works car to finish the race, in 7th place, 3rd in class.  There are a few references to his races in the two volumes of "Racing with the David Brown Aston Martins" by John Wyer and Chris Nixon, but nothing about him as a person.

 

I am always amazed that so many people raced extensively and even became works drivers, but left so little history behind them.



#9 Henk Vasmel

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Posted 25 August 2016 - 18:38

In my database, I have Nick Haines in '48 in a Healey 2400 Elliott. <GWD42>  with Haller in the MM and with Tommy Wisdom in Spa. Then an unidentified Healey (possibly the same) with Leslie Johnson in the 12  hours of Paris.

For '49 we have him in an Aston Martin DB2 LMA/49/2 <UMC65> with Arthur Jones (entrant) at Le Mans and with Noel Macklin at Spa

Then in '50, there is this XK120, 660041, with Haller again for the MM, With PCT Clark (entrant) at Le Mans and with Tony Rolt at the TT (DNS)

 

No Clark for BRM in '50, but DCN should know more about that than me.


Edited by Henk Vasmel, 25 August 2016 - 18:39.


#10 ChrisD

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Posted 26 August 2016 - 11:12

I have just found this in the Jaguar magazine, with a promise of more on Nick Haines in the next edition: 

 

www.jaguarmagazine.com/nick-haines-jaguars-forgotten-le-mans-driver-sydney/

 

 



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Posted 26 August 2016 - 11:32

I have just found this in the Jaguar magazine, with a promise of more on Nick Haines in the next edition: 

 

www.jaguarmagazine.com/nick-haines-jaguars-forgotten-le-mans-driver-sydney/

I'm impressed that he apparently raced at Le Mans in 1948 ...  ;)



#12 Vitesse2

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Posted 26 August 2016 - 12:12

Ah, the power of the internet! From Australian Women's Weekly, December 23rd 1944:

 

TWENTIETH century version of
Winged Cupid is Obs. F-Lt. Nick
Haines, of Rose Bay, N.S.W. With
an English pilot, F-Lt. Peter Horsley,
Nick Haines has carried many mes-
sages from Prince Bernhardt and
Princess Juliana of Holland to each
other.
Prince Bernhardt is one of many
distinguished passengers they have
flown into Europe and other secret
destinations. Their passenger list
includes Field-Marshal Montgomery,
Lady Louis Mountbatten, Marlene
Dietrich, Googie Withers. Noel Cow-
ard, Flanagan and Allen.
They flew Prince Bernhardt when
he made his dramatic re-entry into
Holland, and as a result now know
him quite well. Their latest errand
of friendship was to take him a
parcel of sparkplugs for his car.

Peter Horsley = Air Marshal Sir Beresford Peter Torrington Horsley KCB, CBE, LVO, AFC His Telegraph obituary provides a bit more spice - especially an episode concerning a Belgian nurse - although nothing about Haines! Probably too much to expect anything about Haines in his autobiography, but it might be worth checking.

 

Trove also has some newspaper photos of an elegant and very leggy Mrs Nick Haines, after a victory in a Concours d'Elegance at Eastbourne in 1950. Very grainy, but the car appears to be an LHD XK120.



#13 D-Type

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Posted 26 August 2016 - 20:54

I'm impressed that he apparently raced at Le Mans in 1948 ...  ;)

To be fair, he did drive a Healey with Tommy Wisdom in the 1948 Spa 24 hrs finishing 8th.  (What would we do without Martin Krejki's wonderful WSRP site?)



#14 Doug Nye

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Posted 27 August 2016 - 08:24

Re WSRP - ooh yes indeed...

 

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#15 ChrisD

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Posted 29 August 2016 - 17:43

Would have been tricky!!    :stoned: