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Poll: Now that Mazzacane is out.... (81 member(s) have cast votes)

  1. Marques (58 votes [71.60%])

    Percentage of vote: 71.60%

  2. Burti (5 votes [6.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.17%

  3. Bernoldi (10 votes [12.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.35%

  4. Pedro de la Rosa (5 votes [6.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.17%

  5. other (3 votes [3.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.70%

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#1 Bodzolca

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Posted 25 April 2001 - 08:06

It certainly is a tough call. When Mazza was in it was easy.:lol:

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#2 SchuMic

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Posted 25 April 2001 - 08:31

Don't rejoyce too fast...According to rumors (and we all know that last rumors tend to be true!), Mazza may replace Marques at Minardi, Minardi being disappointed by Marques perfs so far.

So they may replace that "not so good(*)" driver by a "not so good but with pocket full of $$$$" driver....

(*) According to F1 standards...Marques is certainly a far better driver than all of us.

#3 schumigal

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Posted 25 April 2001 - 09:57

Yay! I kinda miss Mazza. Always like his intriguing surname! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Plus there is a reason to back up when he's in f1. He brings in PSN money!! :p

#4 UPRC

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Posted 25 April 2001 - 10:33

While I'm not looking at it realisticly, I'd like to see De La Rosa! I think he deserves to drive. :D

#5 JaqFan

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Posted 25 April 2001 - 10:49

I think PdlR is a pretty good driver, even if he has to pay for his drive (at Arrows he did anyway, not sure about Jaguar).

Alonso is either fantastic, or Marques is the new worst-on-the-grid. All you have to do is look at qualifying differentials.

#6 cupra

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Posted 25 April 2001 - 12:31

Marques was one of the worst drivers in Cart! I couldn't believe he got a ride in F1 instead of someone like Franchitti, Castro-Neves, DaMatta or Servia.

Money certainly can buy anything...

#7 molive

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Posted 25 April 2001 - 12:49

Originally posted by cupra
Marques was one of the worst drivers in Cart! I couldn't believe he got a ride in F1 instead of someone like Franchitti, Castro-Neves, DaMatta or Servia.

Money certainly can buy anything...


Marques did not buy his ride.

And Minardi is quite happy with his drivers. Mazza will only get the job if he bring cash, but otherwise Tarso will keep it.

#8 GerhardP

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Posted 25 April 2001 - 13:20

Originally posted by cupra
Marques was one of the worst drivers in Cart! I couldn't believe he got a ride in F1 instead of someone like Franchitti, Castro-Neves, DaMatta or Servia.

Money certainly can buy anything...


Remember that not more than about two years ago DaMatta for example was a not too impressive backmarker in the Cart series as well as Marques was last year. And Franchitti was 2.5 seconds slower than Burti in the same car last year. Jaguar wanted to give him a chance for a race seat in 2001, but he was just way too slow... Marques on the other side had already shown in 1997 that he can be at least sometimes faster than his teammate Katayama.

#9 GerhardP

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Posted 25 April 2001 - 13:24

By the way, why can you choose de la Rosa on the list above???:confused:
I think, you should rather put Jos Verstappen on it than de la Rosa, who was faster than the Boss last year at Arrows. But, after all, Verstappen is also a very good driver. So, de la Rosa is miles away from being put on such a list of worst drivers in F1. I think, he's even one of the best!:up:

#10 Bodzolca

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Posted 25 April 2001 - 14:05

Originally posted by GerhardP
By the way, why can you choose de la Rosa on the list above???:confused:
I think, you should rather put Jos Verstappen on it than de la Rosa, who was faster than the Boss last year at Arrows. But, after all, Verstappen is also a very good driver. So, de la Rosa is miles away from being put on such a list of worst drivers in F1. I think, he's even one of the best!:up:


Maybe, but two chose Pedro? (I'm not one of them) :confused:
Afterall, nobody would choose Jos after his Sepang performance.

#11 GerhardP

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Posted 25 April 2001 - 14:17

Originally posted by Bodzolca

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Afterall, nobody would choose Jos after his Sepang performance.


Completely right!:up:

#12 Gary Grant

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Posted 25 April 2001 - 17:52

I don't think ther are any bad drivers left at all now :up: - but how's about Button? Surely a bit worse than Pedro dlR?

#13 AT-LAW

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Posted 25 April 2001 - 19:09

PDLR included in the poll...

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Bodzolca, are you kidding? ARE YOU KIDDING?

I will assume that you were kidding. Funny joke indeed :yawn:

#14 GerhardP

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Posted 25 April 2001 - 19:18

Originally posted by AT-LAW
PDLR included in the poll...

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Bodzolca, are you kidding? ARE YOU KIDDING?

I will assume that you were kidding. Funny joke indeed :yawn:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :up:
It's definitely Marques, I'd say. There's no question about that!

#15 george baird

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Posted 25 April 2001 - 19:42

Irvine over-rated,over-paid and under acheiving:mad:

#16 molive

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Posted 25 April 2001 - 20:02

Originally posted by george baird
Irvine over-rated,over-paid and under acheiving:mad:


I SECOND THAT! :)

#17 GerhardP

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Posted 25 April 2001 - 20:03

Originally posted by george baird
Irvine over-rated,over-paid and under acheiving:mad:


Right!

#18 AT-LAW

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Posted 25 April 2001 - 23:54

Originally posted by Bodzolca


Maybe, but two chose Pedro? (I'm not one of them) :confused:


Actually three. I would say that those three votes comes from three brazilian guys :)

I am planning to edit a nice tricky poll: who is the best driver around? I will only offer two chances: PDLR or MSCH. Or maybe I will do it between PDLR and JV, to be safer ;)

#19 markzed

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Posted 26 April 2001 - 02:08

Although I want him to do well, my heart tells me that Marques is probably the worst.
Give him time and he might get better with experience.

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#20 Caíco Caralho

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Posted 26 April 2001 - 05:15

Marques, because Minardi is the worst car in the grid and he can't fit in the cockpit (and it seems Minardi won't build a decent one for him). So, how can he be faster than anyone? But he already could, beating Alonso sometimes and Button in his still crap Benetton... Marques deserves something better. Everyone deserves anything better, Alonso, Button, etc... But really, Mazzacane sucks!

#21 GerhardP

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Posted 26 April 2001 - 08:15

Originally posted by Caíco Caralho
Marques, because Minardi is the worst car in the grid and he can't fit in the cockpit (and it seems Minardi won't build a decent one for him). So, how can he be faster than anyone? ...


I didn't know, Marques does not fit in the cockpit... Reminds me a bit of Mansell in 1995. Interesting info! Where did you read/hear that?:) Perhaps this is the reason for his underperforming although he did quite well in 1997 ?

#22 Bodzolca

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Posted 26 April 2001 - 10:37

Originally posted by AT-LAW
PDLR included in the poll...

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Bodzolca, are you kidding? ARE YOU KIDDING?

I will assume that you were kidding. Funny joke indeed :yawn:


You're Spaniard, aren't you?

I'm not the one who offended you, those four people who chose Pedro did.

#23 AT-LAW

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Posted 26 April 2001 - 14:13

Originally posted by Bodzolca


You're Spaniard, aren't you?

I'm not the one who offended you, those four people who chose Pedro did.


I am a spaniard :smoking:, and I have hated some spanish F1 former drivers like Emilio de Villota, Adrian Campos or Luis Perez Sala. I simply do not feel any simpathy for some others like Gené.

I am far from offended :). Still, I fell that you do not know very much about PDLR´s career. But, again, the BB is just for fun.



#24 Dimo

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Posted 26 April 2001 - 20:30

Originally posted by markzed
Although I want him to do well, my heart tells me that Marques is probably the worst.
Give him time and he might get better with experience.

Since 1993 Marques has spent 1 year in F3, 4 years in F3000 and F1 (including 12 races for Minardi in '96 & '97) and 2 years in a premier series (CART). If he hasn't done well yet, he's not going to.