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[Beri]

That said, the Smith Stable has won the most Constructors' Trophies in F1 history.

Still computing.. help?

[PayasYouRace]

Still computing.. help?

Ferrari is Italian for Smith.
Scuderia is Italian for stable (as in horses).

[BRG]

So what you're saying is common people have no place in the Indy 500.....

And they say that the US is a class-less society.....

[Beri]

Ferrari is Italian for Smith.
Scuderia is Italian for stable (as in horses).

I thought that'd be Rossi or Bianchi.

[Tim Murray]

Interesting that, while Smith is the most common surname in most English-speaking countries, the Italian equivalent Ferrari is only third in Italy, behind Rossi and Russo (which both derive from having red hair or beard).

https://en.m.wiktion...talian_surnames

[KWSN - DSM]

Interesting that, while Smith is the most common surname in most English-speaking countries, the Italian equivalent Ferrari is only third in Italy, behind Rossi and Russo (which both derive from having red hair or beard).

https://en.m.wiktion...talian_surnames

To me it is a non F1 crazy statistic that Ferrari is the third most common name in Italy.

[Dolph]

Ferrari is Italian for Smith.

Wtf!?

Next you are gonna tell me Fisichella means axe and Briatore means spoon

[PayasYouRace]

Wtf!?

Next you are gonna tell me Fisichella means axe and Briatore means spoon

It’s derived from the Italian for iron, “ferro” and is the name given to the man who worked in iron, the blacksmith, which is where the name Smith comes from in English.

[Yoran]

Wtf!?

Next you are gonna tell me Fisichella means axe and Briatore means spoon

 

Nah, Fisichella simply means physician. Briatore means coachman, which seems rather fitting.

[Sterzo]

Nah, Fisichella simply means physician.

Well, in the UK, doctors are synonymous with long queues.

[HistoryFan]

Dale Coyne Racing already entered 6 drivers for the #51 car.

 

1) Colin Braun

2) Nolan Siegel

3) Luca Ghiotto

4) Katherine Legge

5) Tristan Vautier

6) Toby Sowery

 

They already had 6 drivers for the #18 in 2015 with Pippa Mann, Carlos Huertas, Rocky Moran jr., Conor Daly, Rodolfo Gonzalez, Tristan Vautier)

 

Dale Coyne had 5 drivers

=> for the #39 in 1991 (Paul Tracy, Buddy Lazier, Jeff Wood, Michael Greenfield, Dennis Vitolo)

=> for the #19 in 1994 (Robbie Buhl, Brian Till, Alessandro Zampedri, Mauro Baldi, Johnny Unser)

=> for the #34 in 1997 (Roberto Moreno, Christian Danner, Paul Jasper, Charlie Nearburg, Dennis Vitolo)

=> for the #19 in 2005 (Oriol Servia, Michael Valiante, Tarso Marques, Ryan Dalziel, Ronnie Bremer)

=> for the #18 in 2013 (Ana Beatriz, Mike Conway, James Davison, Stefan Wilson, Pippa Mann)

 

Has any other 6 or more drivers for one car in one season in IndyCar?

[Collombin]

Quite a few drove the #45 Bardahl Kurtis in 1954, including 5 in the Indy 500 alone.

[Myrvold]

Dale Coyne Racing

 

The Dale Coyne Racing Swap-a-roo.

Dale Coyne Racing #18 had 9 changes in 10 races in 2015. 6 different drivers drivers swapping: Carlos Huertas, Rocky Moran jr, Conor Daly, Rodolfo Gonzalez, Pippa Mann and Tristan Vautier. It was:

Huertas - Huertas - Daly - Gonzalez - Huertas - Vautier - (Gonzalez - Gonzalez)* - Mann - Gonzalez - Mann - Mann - Mann - Gonzalez - Mann - Gonzalez.

The (Gonzalez - Gonzalez) was Detroit double-header. So 11 changes in 16 races on 15 weekends

 

I know that's not what you asked about - but I still find it... impressive.

Edited by Myrvold, 05 July 2024 - 22:28.

[Hati]

So, who's driving the #18 next weekend? Wait a minute, I'll get my dice.

[PayasYouRace]

The real crazy statistic is when Dayle Coyne Racing has the same driver in the same car for the entire season. Even more so if it’s both cars.

[BRG]

Looking at those names, it looks like Dale Coyne has done more to promote female drivers than W Series ever managed.

[JordanIreland]

Well done Mercedes for taking the lead on 1-2 constructors front row lockout for poles, just ahead of Ferrari:

https://www.statsf1....ole/double.aspx

Given the huge performance advantage redbull recently had, it’s amazing how far behind they are on the list.

Edited by JordanIreland, 06 July 2024 - 19:39.

[HistoryFan]

The real crazy statistic is when Dayle Coyne Racing has the same driver in the same car for the entire season. Even more so if it’s both cars.

 

There was much more stability in the last years.

 

Dale Coyne is the last team from the 2007 ChampCar season who still competes in IndyCar. Also very craszy statistic I think...
 

[HistoryFan]

Well done Mercedes for taking the lead on 1-2 constructors front row lockout for poles, just ahead of Ferrari:

https://www.statsf1....ole/double.aspx

Given the huge performance advantage redbull recently had, it’s amazing how far behind they are on the list.

It's more for the crazy F1 statistic thread.

[PayasYouRace]

There was much more stability in the last years.

Dale Coyne is the last team from the 2007 ChampCar season who still competes in IndyCar. Also very craszy statistic I think...

Got me thinking about the provenance of the current teams.

USAC:
Foyt (1965)
Penske (1968)

CART:
Andretti (1993 as Forsythe/Green)
Ganassi (1990)
Coyne (1984)
Rahal (1992)

IRL:
McLaren (2001 as Schmidt)
DRR (2000)

Unified Indycar:
Carpenter (2012)
Juncos (2017)
Shank (2017)

Which isn’t a bad split overall.

[Henri Greuter]

Got me thinking about the provenance of the current teams.

USAC:
Foyt (1965)
Penske (1968)

CART:
Andretti (1993 as Forsythe/Green)
Ganassi (1990)
Coyne (1984)
Rahal (1992)

IRL:
McLaren (2001 as Schmidt)
DRR (2000)

Unified Indycar:
Carpenter (2012)
Juncos (2017)
Shank (2017)

Which isn’t a bad split overall.

 

 

 

Ganassi (1990) was the continuation of what was Patrick Racing in 1989. Though I must admit I don't know how far to go back in time from there. On the internet I found listings of the team being founded in the 70's and the year 1970 is mentioned too, (He was the winning car owner in 1973)  and his first participation at Indy I found reference to was in 1967.

 

 

(. . . . . . .) 

[Secretariat]

Ganassi (1990) was the continuation of what was Patrick Racing in 1989. Though I must admit I don't know how far to go back in time from there. On the internet I found listings of the team being founded in the 70's and the year 1970 is mentioned too, (He was the winning car owner in 1973)  and his first participation at Indy I found reference to was in 1967.

 

 

(. . . . . . .) 

Pat Patrick seems like a critical figure in a number of deals as he also had a role to play with the creation of Bobby Rahal's team (with Carl Hogan).

[Henri Greuter]

Pat Patrick seems like a critical figure in a number of deals as he also had a role to play with the creation of Bobby Rahal's team (with Carl Hogan).

 

 

It was a new team he founded in 1990 for the (shiver) Alfa Romeo CART effort he took over from Alex Morales Racing. From what I could work out and understand from that team, there was some of what had been Morales Racing and a few elements and people from his old 1989 team involved that did not went over to Chip Ganassi Racing but remained with Pat when he decided to remain in racing afteer all. Anyway, the 1990 Pat Patrick Racing was a new team and not the continuation of the 1989 Pat Patrick Racing whcih had beome th Chip Ganassi efforts..

Patrick then sold out to Bobby Rahal and Carl Hogan for the 1992 season. After ending the deal with Alfa Romeo at the end of 1991 he wanted to lease Ilmor-Chevy engines but was turned down after having send two such engines to Italy in late 1989 for inspection by Alfa. Newly hired Bobby Rahal was then without a competitive ride and it turned out that the team could get Chevies aftr all once Patrick was gone from it entirely. In order to allow Rahal to race with a competive car Patrick then sold out to Rahal and his new partner Carl Hogan.

And of all things, Rahal became CART champion that year!

 

But Patrick got back into racing yet again shortly therafter when becoming the test team for Firestone during 1994 and the factory team for Firestone from 1995 on.

Edited by Henri Greuter, 12 July 2024 - 11:52.

[pacificquay]

Also a silly nickname.

 

Imagine if others had followed suit

 

Gan Ganassi

Pen Penske

And Andretti

Coy Coyne

[PayasYouRace]

Ganassi (1990) was the continuation of what was Patrick Racing in 1989. Though I must admit I don't know how far to go back in time from there. On the internet I found listings of the team being founded in the 70's and the year 1970 is mentioned too, (He was the winning car owner in 1973)  and his first participation at Indy I found reference to was in 1967.

 

 

(. . . . . . .) 

I ummed and erred about that one for a little while, and then decided that because Chip only bought the assets of Patrick Racing and not the team itself, that it should be considered the beginning of the team.

 

I also ignored the many team partnerships that go back a long way.

 

YMMV

[HistoryFan]

the teams in IndyCar are much more interesting, but less noticed, at least in Europe/Germany.

[WonderWoman61]

The recurrence of drivers reaching multiples of 10 in terms of wins in the 2024 British Touring Car Championship.

As things currently stand:

Colin Turkington has 70 Wins.
Ashley Sutton has 40.
Tom Ingram has 30.
Josh Cook has 20.

[NewMrMe]

Also a silly nickname.

 

Imagine if others had followed suit

 

Gan Ganassi

Pen Penske

And Andretti

Coy Coyne

 

What about other areas of motorsport?

 

Wil Williams

Alf Alfa Romeo

[HistoryFan]

Conor Daly now drove for 11 IndyCar teams! These are:

1) Foyt

2) Dale Coyne

3) Schmidt Peterson
4) Harding

5) Andretti

6) Carlin

7) Carpenter

8) Meyer Shank

9) Rahal Letterman Lanigan

10) Dreyer&Reinbold/Cusick

11) Juncos Hollinger

 

wonder, if there are drivers raced for more IndyCar teams. Roberto Moreno comes to my mind and yes, he drove for 13 different teams (14 if you count a DNQ for Arizona):

1) Galles

2) Prayton/Coyne

3) Newman Haas

4) Bettenhausen

5) Project Indy

6) PacWest

7) Truscelli

8) Patrick

9) Herdez

10) Vision

11) Pacific Coast

12) Chastain

13) Minardi HVM

 

Andy drivers racing for more than 13 teams in IndyCar?

[WonderWoman61]

Conor Daly now drove for 11 IndyCar teams! These are:
1) Foyt
2) Dale Coyne
3) Schmidt Peterson
4) Harding
5) Andretti
6) Carlin
7) Carpenter
8) Meyer Shank
9) Rahal Letterman Lanigan
10) Dreyer&Reinbold/Cusick
11) Juncos Hollinger
 
wonder, if there are drivers raced for more IndyCar teams. Roberto Moreno comes to my mind and yes, he drove for 13 different teams (14 if you count a DNQ for Arizona):
1) Galles
2) Prayton/Coyne
3) Newman Haas
4) Bettenhausen
5) Project Indy
6) PacWest
7) Truscelli
8) Patrick
9) Herdez
10) Vision
11) Pacific Coast
12) Chastain
13) Minardi HVM
 
Andy drivers racing for more than 13 teams in IndyCar?

Wasn't Minardi Team USA just the latest incarnation of Bettenhausen via Herdez and HVM?

[PayasYouRace]

Wasn't Minardi Team USA just the latest incarnation of Bettenhausen via Herdez and HVM?

Yes it was.

[WonderWoman61]

Yes it was.

So that would be like saying Giancarlo Fisichella drove for two separate teams when he drive for Jordan and Force India even though the latter was just the then-latest incarnation of the former via Midland and Spyker.

[HistoryFan]

you're right, yes.

[HistoryFan]

Scott Dixon now scores the most podiums in IndyCar history (113 seasons!)

 

1. Scott Dixon 142

2. Mario Andretti 141

3. AJ Foyt 120

4. Will Power 105

5. Michael Andretti 100

6. Al Unser 98

7. Hélio Castroneves 94

8. Sébastien Bourdais 93

9. Dario Franchitti 91

10. Al Unser jr. 88

[HistoryFan]

And Dixon is the 2nd driver in history to race in more than 400 IndyCar races! 401 starts now, so in 2025 he will break Mario Andretti's record of 407 IndyCar races

 

Unbelievable!

[Hrco42]

All three riders on the podium in WSBK Race 1 in Jerez had the same birthday. Toprak and Locatelli 16th October 1996, Bulega same day in 1999. It happened once before this season.

[PayasYouRace]

Seems like January is a good time to conceive a fast biker.

[Dan333SP]

Read something today that was interesting for this thread... last time a normally aspirated car won Le Mans overall was in 1999 with the BMW, which was also my first time watching the race live. 

[danmills]

Interesting that, while Smith is the most common surname in most English-speaking countries, the Italian equivalent Ferrari is only third in Italy, behind Rossi and Russo (which both derive from having red hair or beard).

https://en.m.wiktion...talian_surnames

 

Red hair or beard hair?

 

Or a beard?

[danmills]

Seems like January is a good time to conceive a fast biker.

 

January new year also to conceive with a local fast bike as well 

Edited by danmills, 22 November 2024 - 16:28.

[Sterzo]

Seems like January is a good time to conceive a fast biker.

Keep trying!

[Tim Murray]

Red hair or beard hair?

Or a beard?

Poor wording, sorry. Red hair wherever it might have flourished on someone’s head.

[DeKnyff]

I'd swear I saw a post from Collombin at the countdown thread asking for the winningest 917 driver. Well, I could have made some mistakes after a quick search, but I'd say that drivers with five or more wins are:

 

1) Leo Kinnunen, 18 wins (4 in WSCC, 13 in Interserie, 1 in German Championship)

 

2) Pedro Rodríguez, 8 wins (all in WSCC)

 

3) Mark Donohue, 7 wins (all in Can-Am)

3) Jürgen Neuhaus, 7 wins (3 in Interserie, 4 in German Championship)

 

5) George Follmer, 6 wins (all in Can-Am)

5) Jo Siffert, 6 wins (4 in WSCC, 2 in British Championship)

 

7) Willi Kauhsen, 5 wins (all in Interserie)

7) Alex Soler-Roig, 5 wins (all in Spanish Championship)

[Collombin]

Thank you, yes I deleted it because it wasn't really the right place to ask and nobody seemed to know. Kinnunen was a lucky guess then because I forgot that he wasn't teamed with Pedro in 1971.