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[Alan Cox]

Dates announced for the Festival of Speed and Revival 2017

Goodwood Festival of Speed and Revival 2017 Dates Announced

5th October 2016

Provisional 2017 dates for Goodwood’s flagship motorsport events – the Festival of Speed and Revival – have today been announced as:

Goodwood Festival of Speed - 22-25 June 2017
Goodwood Revival - 8-10 September 2017

These dates are provisional and subject to change.

The 75th Members’ Meeting date is already confirmed as 18-19 March 2017, and will not change.

Tickets for the 75th Members’ Meeting are currently available only to Goodwood Road Racing Club Members. Remaining tickets will be made available to the Goodwood Road Racing Club waiting list from 31 October 2016, with a strictly limited number available to the general public from 2 January 2017.

Ticket-buyers for all three events can sign-up to receive ticket alerts as soon as tickets go on sale to the public here:

https://www.goodwood...s/ticket-alert/

[Alan Cox]

Details of ticket sales here:

Tickets for the Festival of Speed and Revival go on sale on Thursday 3 November from 0900hrs.

The provisional dates, announced earlier this month, of our sell-out motorsport events are:
•22-25 June — Festival of Speed
•8-10 September — Revival
Lord March and his team are finalising plans for both events and they look set to be more thrilling, creative and enjoyable than ever before!

[Alan Cox]

Latest news from the Goodwood website regarding ticket sales: 

Thank you to everyone who has helped make this the strongest opening week for Goodwood motorsport events in our history!

The 75th Members' Meeting, Festival of Speed and Goodwood Revival look set to sell out earlier than ever before.

We appreciate all the support and will match your enthusiasm with more thrilling races, compelling collections of cars and bikes, and other feats of creativity and automotive genius.
Whether you have reserved your place at a 2017 Goodwood motorsport event or not, look out for updates on the world-class motor racing coming up. From Formula 1 stars to BTCC icons, and from the rarest pre-war machines to the most advanced supercars on the planet - we have so many special moments in store...

 

[john aston]

I am going to MM for first time in .yikes.... 4months , although I have been to the Revival several times. Any hot tips for a B and B that won't empty my piggy bank - some of the prices I have seen are eye watering . Doesn't need to be on door step - 15- 20 mile radius is fine .

[Richard Jenkins]

I stay at Cripple Creek about 9 miles away. It a Basic b and b but great cooks, nice people. Perfect for just flopping out. Pub not that far away for food. Normally costs £45 in June.
They're on late rooms/booking. Com and are used to Goodwoodees.

[Richard Jenkins]

Looking at today's news about the Baku GP being moved, it looks like if they want the F1 and Le Mans guys there (there's argument it'd be better without the F1 teams) then I'm guessing 30th June/1st and 2nd July will be the new dates.

[bill p]

I usually stay in Worthing, some 18 miles away, where there seem to be quite a number of reasonably priced B & Bs

Edited by bill p, 30 November 2016 - 21:55.

[john aston]

Have contacted Cripple Creek and I am told I have to ask again in January as they don't take bookings yet - odd. Hope I can  stay there-always did like The Band     

[Richard Jenkins]

John,
Very odd cos I've booked already online for 2017. Mind, that's for June. September may be different)
(Albeit if the dates do change I'll have to shift my booking).

[john aston]

I was booking for March !

[Alan Cox]

As suggested, Goodwood have now announced that, because the great god that is 'effwun', upon whose toes the humble rabble must not dare to tread, has changed a date, the Festival of Speed has been moved:
 

2017 Goodwood Festival of Speed Dates Change
2nd December 2016
Goodwood can today announce that the provisional dates for the 2017 Goodwood Festival of Speed will change to June 29th to July 2nd. These dates are now confirmed.
The new dates are a consequence of the recently announced change in the F1 calendar, which moves the Baku race later by one week. This will allow the F1 teams and drivers to be present at Goodwood to wow the sell-out crowds at the Festival of Speed as they do every year.
Tickets already purchased will be valid for the new dates so ticket-holders need not change their tickets. We look forward to another spectacular event next year.

 

[john aston]

As has Silverstone Classic- now 28-30 July

Edited by john aston, 02 December 2016 - 14:27.

[opplock]

FOS now the same weekend as HSCC Brands Hatch, as per usual. I'll be at Brands where there'll probably be 2-3 marshals per post (GP circuit) rather than 15-20 as on my last visit to Revival. 

 

Those who understand the Cripple Creek reference would have enjoyed a recent series of concerts in NZ celebrating 40th anniversary of the Last Waltz. Original repertoire, except for the Neil Diamond segment, mostly performed by local musicians ably assisted by Garth Hudson. My informant described the Wellington concert as a bloody good night.

[Alan Cox]

Latest news of another one-make race at the Members' Meeting in 2017

 

Goodwood 75th Members’ Meeting to Honour ‘Archie’ Scott Brown
9th December 2016
The 75th Members’ Meeting will feature a full grid of Lister sports-racing cars doing battle on the legendary Goodwood Motor Circuit in the all-new Scott Brown Trophy. Celebrating 60 years of arguably Lister’s most famous model – the ‘Knobbly’ – 30 Listers, including Jaguar- and Chevrolet-engined examples, will be going wheel to wheel at the traditional season-opener in March. The name Scott Brown is synonymous with Lister. Despite being severely handicapped as a result of his mother contracting German Measles during pregnancy, William Archibald ‘Archie’ Scott Brown was one of the most naturally gifted drivers of his era. In particular, he enjoyed huge success behind the wheel of a Lister-Jaguar ‘Knobbly’, so named for its curved bodywork. The Knobbly made its race debut, driven by Scott Brown, at Snetterton in 1957, and although a clutch failure meant that Archie did not win first time out, a truly dominant display seven days later at Oulton Park gave both Archie and Lister victory in the British Empire Trophy over Roy Salvadori and his Aston Martin DBR1. Archie’s run of form continued at the Goodwood Easter Meeting, where he once again beat Salvadori’s Aston Martin to win the Sussex Trophy, breaking the lap record for sportscars in the process. It wouldn’t be until September, and the International Trophy Meeting, that Salvadori would be able to overthrow Archie and his Lister. Despite tragically losing Archie Scott Brown at Spa, Lister enjoyed further successes in 1958, before withdrawing from competition at the end of 1959, following an unsuccessful year with the new Chevrolet-engined ‘Costin’. With a capacity grid of some of the finest British sportscars to ever grace the world stage, this race is expected to be a great spectacle and a real highlight of the 75th Members’ Meeting.
See the full list of upcoming races and celebrations here:
https://www.goodwood...ails-announced/

 

[john aston]

My first MM ; and I really do not want to see one make races. Unless there enough 512Ms , anyway . Diversity is key and the only one make series worth beans have been Pro cars and TVR Tuscans . Oh well...

[2F-001]

John - I can think of one other marque that has produced some fairly decent one-make racing in the past… one fairly close to our hearts.

There's a piece about the old Procar series in the current issue of Motor Sport.

[bradbury west]

John, a lot of people were sceptical about a D type race and a GT40 race at previous Goodwood events and they turned out well. Bear in mind it is likely to be cold in March, yes, even at Goodwood, so lots of horsepower and hard cold tyres should test the skills of the drivers. I have always been impressed by the performance and skills shown by the Can Am sports car drivers in similar conditions. A racer is a racer is a racer, to misquote Mario Andretti. The Listers will not lack horsepower and, like it or not, are all set up for today's racing.
Roger Lund

[john aston]

Tony - don't tell any of our mutual  chums  but Seven racing is not really my thing.Pleasant to watch a slipstreaming bunch  but a bit more big bhp sturm und drang  gets the adrenalin going better   

[2F-001]

I get your point fully, John; and I used to enjoy them rather more years back than I do now (it used to be the acceptable face of one-make racing for me) and I struggle to face whole meetings-full of them.

I share the scepticism of one-make grids at Goodwood, though I saw the GT40 race and that was entertaining.
To be honest, I didn't realise they were enough D-types or Knobbly Listers around to make up a decent-sized grid; I'm assuming they are all essentially general, so it's really just another yawning gap in my knowledge!

Edited by 2F-001, 10 December 2016 - 09:51.

[opplock]

I seem to recall that Brian Lister was once a guest at a Silverstone meeting. His reported comment on seeing a large number of Listers on the grid was "You've got more cars here than I ever built". Are there still 30 genuine Listers in existence?

 

A low point for me was this year's Spa 6 Hours. Autosport reported that of the 11 GT40s, two were built in period.  I don't mind seeing replicas, especially of cars that no longer exist, but they should be clearly identified as such.

[BRG]

There's all those brand-new original period Listers that they have been churning out - they should make up the numbers.

[Peter Morley]

I seem to recall that Brian Lister was once a guest at a Silverstone meeting. His reported comment on seeing a large number of Listers on the grid was "You've got more cars here than I ever built". Are there still 30 genuine Listers in existence?

 

 

Apparently at a prize giving Brian Lister who was presenting a trophy said "here's the man who made more Listers than me"!

[Alan Cox]

I get your point fully, John; and I used to enjoy them rather more years back than I do now (it used to be the acceptable face of one-make racing for me) and I struggle to face whole meetings-full of them.

I share the scepticism of one-make grids at Goodwood, though I saw the GT40 race and that was entertaining.
To be honest, I didn't realise they were enough D-types or Knobbly Listers around to make up a decent-sized grid; I'm assuming they are all essentially general, so it's really just another yawning gap in my knowledge!

As we all know, from Lord March's comments in the Lightweight E Type documentary some time back, they don't allow replicas at Goodwood, so all the Listers will be genuine cars

[Alan Cox]

News about the Gerry Marshall Trophy at the forthcoming Members' Meeting

RACE-FORMAT CHANGES FOR THE POPULAR GERRY MARSHALL TROPHY AT THE 75th GOODWOOD MEMBERS’ MEETING
Friday 13th January 2017
Since the revival of the sell-out Goodwood Members’ Meeting in 2014, the Gerry Marshall Trophy has proved to be one of the most anticipated and spectacular races at this annual March event.
For this year’s 75th Members’ Meeting, taking place over the weekend of 18-19 March 2017, the format of the Gerry Marshall Trophy race for Group 1 production saloons of the 1970s and early ’80s will differ from previous years, but with the racing set to be as exciting as ever.
For the first time, the Gerry Marshall Trophy becomes a one-hour, two-driver race. The Group 1 saloons will be taken into battle by a wealth of famous drivers into dusk on Saturday, evoking memories of the legendary Spa 24 Hours, ahead of the evening’s lively entertainment and fireworks.
On the Sunday, the inaugural Gerry Marshall Sprint will form the second-leg of this touring-car epic. Taking inspiration from the current British Touring Car Championship, this race will feature a reversed grid, with the owners taking over, their starting position determined by the car’s result from the Gerry Marshall Trophy.
Only cars running at the finish of the Saturday-evening Trophy race, and those that competed 95 per cent of the Saturday winner’s race distance, will be reversed. All others will start the Sunday Sprint from their Saturday Trophy finish or non-finish position.
Always popular with Members’ Meeting spectators, the Gerry Marshall line-up will include a number of famous Group 1 racing tin-tops, all sporting their correct period sponsor livery, including Ford Escorts and Capris, Chevrolet Camaros, Mini 1275 GTs, Rover SD1s and Triumph Dolomite Sprints, sharing track space with other memorable marques such as Alfa Romeos, BMWs, Mazdas and Volkswagens.
One Group 1 racer expected to make its Goodwood racing debut will be the ex-Gerry Marshall Vauxhall Magnum DTV, in which he took a class victory, and second place overall, at the 1977 Spa 24 Hours. This well-known Vauxhall was sold by Goodwood partner Bonhams at its sale of Historic Motor Cars during last year’s 74th Members’ Meeting, with the car being prepared since then ready to compete at this year’s event. A trio of period competition Ford Capris is also set to race for the very first time at the Members’ Meeting.
Among the many star drivers contesting the Gerry Marshall Trophy will be tin-top favourites Andrew Jordan, Tim Harvey, Patrick Watts and Stuart Graham and numerous other race aces.

[Alan Cox]

Festival of Speed theme announced:
 

“Peaks of Performance – Motorsport’s Game-Changers”

Goodwood can today announce that the theme for the 2017 Goodwood Festival of Speed will be “Peaks of Performance – Motorsport’s Game-Changers”.

The 2017 Festival of Speed will celebrate racing machines that were so fast, powerful, expensive or complicated that the rules had to be changed to rein them in. These are the high-watermarks of motorsport; cars and motorcycles that left an indelible mark on the history of the sport

.
The event will showcase the greatest examples of this theme, including monstrous unlimited sportscars, 1930s-era 750kg Grand Prix cars, Group B rally monsters, and ground-effect and turbo-powered F1 brutes.
Alongside this central theme, the 2017 Festival will also feature a glittering array of cars and motorcycles from a huge variety of disciplines, further enhancing the Festival of Speed’s reputation as an event unlike any other in the world.

[Gabrci]

I'm not sure why they insist on having these silly themes, which then manifest in absolutely nothing. Or to reflect my feelings a bit better: the cars present form such an awesome collection anyway that the theme of any year can equally be applied to any year of the event. I wonder why they just don't bin this concept of having a theme every year, it's lame and the event itself is so absolutely wonderful that they really don't need cheap marketing like this. 

[D-Type]

It's not so much the theme as that they usually have several - one for the cars on the hill, one for the sculpture, one for the concours d'elegance, etc.

[Alan Cox]

Latest press release form Goodwood regarding the pre-war race at the upcoming Members' Meeting:

Stunning field of Franco-Italian pre-war racers to do battle
in all-new Varzi Trophy at 75th Members’ Meeting
For immediate release: Friday 27th January 2017
A brand-new race for French and Italian pre-war Grand Prix and Voiturette machines has joined
the roster for the 75th Members’ Meeting, taking place at the Goodwood Motor Circuit on
March 18th-19th.
Named in honour of Italian superstar Achille Varzi, who switched from motorcycles to cars in
the late 1920s and achieved great success for Alfa Romeo, Auto Union and Bugatti during the
1930s, the Varzi Trophy will form part of the 12-race programme during the Springtime
spectacular.
Catering for cars that competed up to 1939, the race will feature a mouth-watering line-up
comprising beauties from Alfa Romeo, Bugatti, Delahaye, Maserati and Talbot-Lago.
Members and racegoers at the 75th Members’ Meeting, the fourth of the Motor Circuit’s
recreations of the 71 period BARC Members’ Meetings, will be able to ogle 8C 2300 and 2600
Monzas and P3 Tipo Bs from Alfa Romeo, all the important racing Bugattis, Types 35, 35B, 51
and 59/50B, a Delahaye 135S and classic Maseratis in the shape of 4CM, 4CS, 6CM, 8CL, 8CM
and V8 RI and a T150C from Talbot-Lago.

[Vitesse2]

The cynic in me wonders why they've named it after a wife-stealing sometime drug addict ...

 

It's not as if there weren't some more clean-living 1930s drivers ... Nuvolari, Dreyfus, Wimille ...

[Roger Clark]

Possibly because he was a very great racing driver, albeit with human frailties, like most of us.

[chunder27]

And they have probably used the others in the past

 

It hardly matters does it

[Vitesse2]

Possibly because he was a very great racing driver, albeit with human frailties, like most of us.

Indeed, Roger. I did say 'the cynic in me wonders'. Here's what I posted about Varzi a long time ago. Note the date and time, BTW. Something rather big was about to happen ...

 

Varzi was a flawed genius - great on his day and, like Rosemeyer, a master of the Auto Union, but his drug and marital problems seriously affected his career at a crucial point.

[Macca]

A slection from MM testing today:

 

 

 

The daffodils were out...and so were the Bugattis

 

 

Down, Rover...........

 

 

 

Old Spice's....

 

 

 

Solitary single-seater.

 

 

D'ya wanna join our club, man?

 

 

Shape(ly) craft

 

 

Steroidal snake

 

 

It's a Hamill, Mark...

 

 

Paul M

Edited by Macca, 12 March 2017 - 22:52.

[Jack-the-Lad]

I'll be flying out of the U.S. next Wednesday for my third MM. I'm hoping for better weather than numbers 73 and 74!

[Ralf Pickel]

Jack - I will be there, too. 

I am hoping for MM72 weather ! 

[Macca]

From Friday, in the mist:

 

 

Brabham, ex-Ikusawa

 

 

 

 

EDIT: De Sanctis F3

 

 

 

 

Fireball.....your rockers are showing

 

 

 

 

Michel Vaillant, il est un fiction, n'est-ce pas?

 

 

 

 

Lo-lo-lo-lo............

 

 

 

 

..........Lola

 

 

 

and finally.......there seem to be major earthworks in progress on the airfield, to what purpose I know not (view from the flying club towards Fordwater):

 

 

 

 

Paul M

Edited by Macca, 16 March 2017 - 16:38.

[Alan Cox]

Entry lists for the Members' Meeting now available

https://www.goodwood...list-130317.pdf

[Tim Murray]

I don't suppose anyone's got a spare ticket for Sunday?

[FLB]

[ensign14]

Some pics:

 

 

^ sky blue was mostly in evidence on the signage

 

 

^ looks OK in profile...

 

...but...

 

 

^ KILL IT!  KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!

 

 

^ Always worth a mooch around the car parks.  I'd never seen a Fisker before...

 

 

^ or a Bitter.

 

 

^ I s'pose life's a laugh if you've a McLaren F1 supercar

 

 

^ that moment when you realize it's not your zoom making the car bigger

 

 

^ a more conventional view of the buzzbombs - Jim Blockley is in fifth at this instant.  I suppose he could never blame tyre failure

 

 

^ definitely dark blue

 

 

^ sleeping beauties

 

 

^ pit lane isn't always this quiet

 

 

 

 

^ Alain de Cadenet gloves up

 

 

^ petrolhead goldfinch - perched over the infield paddocks, started singing whenever a Jag fired up

 

 

^ got a bit arty.  First I focussed on the flowers...

 

 

^...then the Mors.

 

 

^ Blurred Sierra

 

And finally some helmets that are loads better than any designs in F1 at the moment...

 

 

^ Martin O'Connell

 

 

^ Karl Jones' Tom Pryce tribute

 

 

^ Andrew Smith and his badges of honour

 

 

^ Ravaglia reflected

 

 

^ And Shaun Lynn takes an autobiographical approach.

 

[Lee Nicolle]

Blurred Sierra is a Rover

[Peat]

Nice pictures Ensign. Twas a grand day out.

My first time at Goodwood Circuit, very impressed with the place. Some of the racing was superb, the 60's sports cars drifting all the way through St.Mary's made the hair on my neck stand to attention. Beautiful.

[ensign14]

Blurred Sierra is a Rover

 

Well, it was blurry...

[Odseybod]

Great pics, Ensign - thanks.

 

Much enjoyed the live feed - very difficult to tear myself away for all the weekend chores. Goodwood was looking superb (maybe it's the daffs?) and the racing was good and mainly contact-free, unlike the Revival which I've rather gone off. And as for that Lister race - what an incredible sight.

[sabrejet]

Yesterday was a great day: a massive tribute to all involved. Maybe a bit too many of the touring cars but I was OK generally. For the first time we watched the Pierpoint Cup (Shelby Trophy as was etc) from opposite the pits and the impression was rather...impressive. Real sensory overload and enjoyed by the missus too.

 

Weslake Sprites were (in terms of racing) a highlight - which was surprising I guess - and probably more related to our vantage point at the chicane, whereas the Listers at St Mary's were less impressive.

 

But that takes nothing away from a memorable day, which for the first in many times was neither cold or wet! 

[ensign14]

Well, it was pretty chilly, especially when the wind got up.  But the revived Members' Meetings haven't been wet at all, have they?

 

When I get time (maybe Thursday) I will put up the Weslakers so one can play spot the difference.

[sabrejet]

No but very chilly! It was positively balmy yesterday. Revivals have (for me) generally been unseasonably cold or as last year, very wet. Depends on which day(s) you go I know.

 

I also do a considerable disservice to the SF Edge Trophy: in my haste I had forgotten race of the day: the recovery of Blakeney-Edwards' GN after a pit stop was the stuff of legend and I was hoping for a fairytale win. Even so, second place was still a remarkable achievement.

Edited by sabrejet, 20 March 2017 - 12:27.

[john aston]

Frustration is..when you get a bad back the week before, decide to chance your first MM  anyway and drive 300miles to Sussex, find you can't walk more than couple of yards after an entirely  sleepless night and decide that driving  home is the only sensible option...Looked great on TV .

 

Next year I hope .  

[Sharman]

Frustration is..when you get a bad back the week before, decide to chance your first MM  anyway and drive 300miles to Sussex, find you can't walk more than couple of yards after an entirely  sleepless night and decide that driving  home is the only sensible option...Looked great on TV .
 
Next year I hope .

Diclofenac. They won't prescribe it it the UK because 1 in umpty tump thousand got (perhaps!!) a cardiac reaction from it, but it can be obtained elsewhere, France for example. It really works wonders, not a pain killer but an anti-inflammatory.

[dwh43scale]

Excellent couple of days; photos will follow.

 

Chilly, especially in the wind as we went out into the country. Occasional blue sky and sunshine.

 

Mrs dwh43etc made her motorsport photographic debut and already wants a zoom lens for her DSLR !