
Monoposto "one-off" specials
#1
Posted 14 October 2016 - 18:21
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#2
Posted 15 October 2016 - 02:58
#3
Posted 15 October 2016 - 13:05
1975 Longridge 18th August - No town listed for drivers
Nigel Howard-Jones - RTW 74M
Alan Baillie - Viking 1AM
David Coombs - Manta 71/D
Also in 1975 at the August Harewood hillclimb Paul Mawson from Hanley was running the Jomo-Ford with a 1.6 Ford Twin Cam
1976 Oulton Park 1st May - No Town listed for drivers
David Coombs - Manta 75/B
Geoff Toms - Fubar T1
David Williams - Rewson
Mark Kopieczek - Swan
Outside of your year range in 1977 I also noted:
John Chambers - Chamox Mk 2
John Lipman - Lipman JL3A
Observations:
Jack Heaton-Rudd and others also competed in hillclimbs & sprints so you may also wish to cross check these events. for Monoposto.
Was the Diggory-Gwyniad a development of the Formula Junior car?
Maurice Ogier, from the Channel Islands, not only hillclimbed and sprinted but also sand raced and raced in Formula Libre. He ran a V8 powered Wellanir in all three other disciplines.
In several instances over the years some of the Monoposto runners also competed in Formula Libre races often at the same meetings as their Mono races.
#4
Posted 17 October 2016 - 09:43
Hi Frank Teideman's early Monoposto cars were based upon converted Cooper 500's initially a MK IV then athen later a MK VI.
The Cooper Mk VI was run as Milli-Mono with a Ford 1172 engine. This car is currently residing in my Dad's garage and has done so since 1973 albeit now as a Cooper 500 once again. We do still have the Monoposto bodywork.
Before Frank's death several years ago he advertised some Cooper Mk VI body panels for sale and we went to see them but he had crazy ideas as to their worth. Unfortunately at that time we were unaware that they were probably from "our" car and the conversation may have been very different.
More information regarding Frank's Monoposto connection can be found in the 750 Motor Club book which is how we made the connection.
Regards
Stuart Wright
#5
Posted 17 October 2016 - 10:02
As far as I'm aware, Alan Baillie still owns the Viking. The Manta (Renault-powered) was written off I think and David Coombs died in a parachuting or hangliding accident many years ago. Keith Messer races the Vesey in Historic F3. There was a (the?) Barnett racing at Silverstone on Saturday in Historic F3, driven by Neil Armstrong.
Edited by Cirrus, 17 October 2016 - 10:03.
#6
Posted 17 October 2016 - 10:37
More intriguing to me is where are they all, all this non professional inventiveness seems to disappear without trace (saving for the odd sighting as mentioned above)
#7
Posted 17 October 2016 - 17:56
As far as I'm aware, Alan Baillie still owns the Viking. The Manta (Renault-powered) was written off I think and David Coombs died in a parachuting or hangliding accident many years ago. Keith Messer races the Vesey in Historic F3. There was a (the?) Barnett racing at Silverstone on Saturday in Historic F3, driven by Neil Armstrong.
Thanks for your reply. Yes, Alan does still own the original Viking. There was another one but that became the Norseman with John Withers, Alan's former mechanic, being the owner/driver.
David Coombs died in the Chinook helicopter disaster in Germany in 1981 or 2. 44 died, mainly parachutists/sky-divers - David had taken that up after motor-racing. He had two brothers, Peter who had raced previously and Roger who was largely responsible for the Mantas. I am hoping someone can put me in touch with Roger if he is still around. There were two Mantas and only one was written off as far as I know.
I spotted the Barnett in the Silverstone programme when I was there yesterday. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to go on Saturday so I missed it!! It seems Neil is from Rugby so maybe I can track him down.
#8
Posted 17 October 2016 - 18:01
Hi Frank Teideman's early Monoposto cars were based upon converted Cooper 500's initially a MK IV then athen later a MK VI.
The Cooper Mk VI was run as Milli-Mono with a Ford 1172 engine. This car is currently residing in my Dad's garage and has done so since 1973 albeit now as a Cooper 500 once again. We do still have the Monoposto bodywork.
Before Frank's death several years ago he advertised some Cooper Mk VI body panels for sale and we went to see them but he had crazy ideas as to their worth. Unfortunately at that time we were unaware that they were probably from "our" car and the conversation may have been very different.
More information regarding Frank's Monoposto connection can be found in the 750 Motor Club book which is how we made the connection.
Regards
Stuart Wright
Thanks for this; it's very helpful. I suspect a copy of the 750 book will end up on my Christmas list! Quite a lot of the early Mono cars seem to have done 1172 as well. Do you have any photos of the car in Mono form?
#9
Posted 17 October 2016 - 19:55
Rudeani still exists and is in the East Midlands. So does the Raven, built by half of the Rudeani team and competes regularly at Gusrston Down, still in family ownership.Revoray was an Ensign F3 chassis with a different engine and other changes, Ferret have some pics.
#10
Posted 19 January 2017 - 11:34
Hoping this is acceptable and vaugely relevant; does anyone recognise this 1172 car built in the mid / late 1950s (I believe) for 750mc 1172 and monposto racing at the time. It's nicely built in the typical Lotus Mark VI style using mostly Ford Pop bits but seems to have become detached from it's identity and history!
#11
Posted 19 January 2017 - 11:45
The word Speedex comes to mind:
See:
https://revslib.stan...log/jw457qq5127
https://revslib.stan...log/jx071xg1331
RGDS RLT
Edited by Rupertlt1, 19 January 2017 - 11:48.
#12
Posted 19 January 2017 - 12:22
Definitely similar in shape but I thought Speedex's were Austin 7 based and this is defiitely a well made tube chassis and Ford based nicely drilled and split front beam.
Someone else suggested Cannon who was better know for his trials cars but did apparently built a few circuit cars too! He was certinly one who drilled his front axles. At the back this has radius arms and a neat A-frame which attaches beneath the diff casing. No idea whether that helps i/d it!
I hope there are some detectives out there who can help! It's been in our shed long enough! Pedals look nice too, home made I think, but well-made! I would definitely call it a poor man's Lotus Mark VI!
Thanks for looking at it!
#13
Posted 19 January 2017 - 12:44
Dave Armstrong is the Speedex fundi - I think there were Ford-based cars - but PM me and I'll put you in touch, (if only to rule it out). RGDS RLT
#14
Posted 21 January 2017 - 02:16
Take a look here:
https://revslib.stan...log/gs358gj9830
Registration SRO 5.
Can anybody identify this car?
Can you post a picture of the nosecone?
RGDS RLT
#15
Posted 10 May 2017 - 10:38
Woody Harris finished second overall first monoposto , smashing the previous Monoposto lap record . I was curious as to whether the Genie was a proprietary chassis or home built special ? The rest of the entry was made up of Brabhams , The Streaker's Lotus 35 , a Formula Ford Dulon , a couple of Formula Juniors and several specials , all of which appear on your list .
Woody and his Genie appeared in some early season Formula Atlantic races in 1974 , in a car described as either a Genie Mk13 or a Genie FA74 . Also were the
Formula Juniors , Bruce West from London in a Gemini and Al Black from Brixham in a Lotus 18 , the green shoots of the now burgeoning Historic Formula Junior movement ?
Finally the meeting featured no fewer than five future Grand Prix drivers . Gunnar Nilsson won the feature Formula Atlantic race while Brian Henton ended his race in the Club chicane catchfencing . Geoff Lees won the Formula Ford race while shuttling between Thruxton and Mallory Park by helicopter and Derek Warwick qualified fifth but seemed to disappear on the first lap . Meanwhile a young man by the name of Jon Palmer appeared in a Modsports Frogeye Sprite which from my vantage point at the Chicane , rarely appeared on more than three wheels !
#16
Posted 10 May 2017 - 12:46
#17
Posted 10 May 2017 - 13:20
Edited by GazChed, 10 May 2017 - 14:32.
#18
Posted 10 May 2017 - 18:18
GC, yes Emilio raced the Lyncar in G8, through 76 into early 77. He then got an M23. Wasn't Jim Crawford in the FAt race that day? I was at Mallory watching the F5000s, at the other end of the Lees shuttle.
#19
Posted 10 May 2017 - 18:23
Re the Genie. This is all from memory but I think Genies were manufactured in the USA. Many were sports cars but Woody Harris's car was obviously a single seater with, I think, a glassfibre monocoque.
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#20
Posted 10 May 2017 - 19:13
Regarding the Genie that would make sense as I believe Woody Harris was originally from California . As an aside , that afternoon there were four single seater races , the Atlantic and Mono\Super Vee races and two Formula Ford races . According to my reading of the Thruxton fixture list the only single seater races at Thruxton this season were the three Formula Four races last weekend ! Changed times eh .
#21
Posted 10 May 2017 - 19:36
Can you remember how Geoff Lees got on at Mallory ?
(As I still have the relevant MN to hand): He won his heat after resisting a strong challenge from Mike Blanchet. He led from the start in the final, but after three laps his engine started to cut out intermittently, which dropped him down the field and then finally to retire on lap 12. The race was won by Bernard Vermilio ahead of Mike Blanchet and Rad Dougall. The latter two were not happy with some of Bernard's race tactics and protested him after the race, but the result was allowed to stand.
#22
Posted 10 May 2017 - 20:03
#23
Posted 10 May 2017 - 20:16
Back a few posts and Speedex was Jem Marsh - of course A7s and then Marcos.
A number of Lyncar chassis remain, well constructed by, was it, Martin Slater? John Hewett currently running an exemplorary refettled example on the hills with a quick 5 litre V8. Having looked at this car the detail work is delighful and the idea must have been to supply componets elsewhere.
#24
Posted 10 May 2017 - 20:28
#25
Posted 11 May 2017 - 02:42
According to the programme racechat on page 4 , they say Lees was attempting to win the three major British Formula Ford championships . Did he succeed ?
Yes he did - as Autosport put it in their FF seasonal survey 'the impossible happened'. His hardest fight was in the MCD/National Organs Championship, in which he and Kenny Gray traded wins for most of the year, but problems for Gray in the very last races gave Geoff the title by 12 points. He won the BARC/British Air Ferries series by seven points from Rick Morris, and the Silverstone-based Brush Fusegear series by 13 points ahead of Matthew Argenti.
#26
Posted 11 May 2017 - 07:24
And he won the festival, Tim. Though not without a little controversy... Ask Rod Bremner!
#27
Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:55
Edited by GazChed, 11 May 2017 - 09:01.
#28
Posted 11 May 2017 - 10:38
A number of Lyncar chassis remain, well constructed by, was it, Martin Slater? John Hewett currently running an exemplorary refettled example on the hills with a quick 5 litre V8. Having looked at this car the detail work is delighful and the idea must have been to supply componets elsewhere.
The Hewett Lyncar is an ex-Formula Atlantic chassis that has had the Rover V8 shoe-horned in. It spent most of its life 'on the hills' in Atlantic form but when John bought it there was no engine (and possibly no gearbox?) As he had the requisite items sat on the workshop floor he thought "Why not!"
#29
Posted 11 May 2017 - 14:13
Re the Genie. This is all from memory but I think Genies were manufactured in the USA. Many were sports cars but Woody Harris's car was obviously a single seater with, I think, a glassfibre monocoque.
Yes you are right and you beat me to it!! It was built in the USA, did have a fibreglass monocoque and is somehow related to Huffaker. At the moment I am only researching cars that ran in Monoposto from 1958 - 1976 and the genie came later. Once we have this book finished there might be a sequel though.
#30
Posted 11 May 2017 - 14:25
For sake of historical accuracy, I drove the Nomad FF in a monoposto race at Silverstone in about June/July 1972.
Thank you for that. I found a couple of records relating to nomad a few days ago. One was at Silverstone on 30/7/72, the other was a week earlier (23/7/72) at Mallory Park. There were two different drivers and the Mallory car was entered as "Nomad 5". Does any of that make any sense? Was the Nomad a one-off or series produced? Do you have any pictures?
#31
Posted 11 May 2017 - 14:27
Thank you for that. I found a couple of records relating to nomad a few days ago. One was at Silverstone on 30/7/72, the other was a week earlier (23/7/72) at Mallory Park. There were two different drivers and the Mallory car was entered as "Nomad 5". Does any of that make any sense? Was the Nomad a one-off or series produced? Do you have any pictures?
Send me a PM if you prefer.
#32
Posted 11 May 2017 - 14:33
#33
Posted 13 May 2017 - 12:15
The race that Woody Harris drove the Genie was on October 12th 1975 - if you like I could e-mail you the entry list and some pictures from that day .
The first reference that I have to Woody driving the Genie was 10th August 1975 at Snetterton where he finished third. He won at Castle Combe on 6th September and again at Silverstone on 20th. Finally he won Thruxton on 12th October, the final round. I had thought his entry into Mono was post 1976 but further scrutiny of records shows I was mistaken. Any photos you have would be very helpful; thank you. I will PM you with my e-mail address.
#34
Posted 13 May 2017 - 13:53
#35
Posted 13 May 2017 - 14:24
Edited by GazChed, 13 May 2017 - 14:26.
#36
Posted 19 May 2017 - 21:06
Although strictly off topic, there are a number of references to the Genie Mk13 under this thread. Back in the day I had some involvement with the car and some of the surrounding characters.
Woody Harris was a very American, very laid back Californian engineer who certainly knew which way was up. He was the second A in ADA (Anglo Dutch American) Engineering, then of Willow Vale, Shepherd's Bush in London. In another guise ADA eventually went on to win Le Mans and I'll come back to that link in a minute. ADA back then was a classic engineering workshop with some motor sport pretensions. A series of lock-ups to one side housed a small number of race cars and hot rods including the Genie Mk13.
The Genie was an American built chassis with a full length Fiberglass bath-tub. My understanding is that there were manufacturing links to Genie and Huffaker, basically through Harris having worked with/for both.
The basic lay-out of the car was very similar to race-car thinking of the time with the exception of the tub. This had a relatively tall and thick wall section and 4 machined pick-up bulkheads. This extended right to the rear of the engine and made working on the engine bay a real pain - literally, I still have the scars to prove this. There were in fact two tubs, the much lighter spare having never been built-up. As far as I know these were the only two built, both originally for Formula Atlantic USA. There was no opportunity for other than those with snake hips to drive it.
The Genie is an important step in the development of chassis from the ladder frame and space frames to the current reliance on carbon. Along with some of the Jim Hall Chaparrals, it was a short lived look at a technology that was perhaps not really appropriate when applied within the automotive sector.
The confusion as to dates referenced above may be because Woody sold the car to Peter Gillett, a kart graduate (via Linx Karts). In his first year, once we had sorted the car, Peter was quick and took a couple of wins on his way to the 1800 class championship. The following year he generally blitzed the opposition although at some point he was removed from the championship, at the time I was given to understand for having commercial markings on the car within a strictly amature championship.
The Le Mans link - by then I had gone to Cloud Racing - Dorset Racing Associates (DRA) in all but name. When we moved to London, I introduced ADA for general machining support plus the supply of the portable corner-weight checkers which Woody had developed. I knew Woody wanted to go back stateside, made an introduction and the rest as they say is history.