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[OSX]

Isnt Symonds out once Lowe gets there .... suspect he is not going to be too influential going forward, 

That might be so but he's still right.

[pdac]

Getting close to part 2

[HeadFirst]

Perhaps it's time to turn the page on this (or do we need a new thread), and with a new pole as well. After all the info on who's not available, not interested, or not wanted, it might be a short list.

[automovelbrilhante]

Might as well start the Hamilton vs Wehrlein thread. ASAP

Well, have a good one y'alls. ;p

[LORDBYRON]

Might as well start the Hamilton vs Wehrlein thread. ASAP
Well, have a good one y'alls. ;p

Go on then..Make a useless thread for starters then would get sharply closed rolfl 😁

Edited by LORDBYRON, 15 December 2016 - 00:26.

[efuloni]

The amount of fanboysm around Button here is too damn high. He is not only retired - he was RIGHT to retire. He is past his time. I think he could  think about coming back if Mercedes called him, but I would put my Money anytime that it wont happen (for reasons that are all over this thread). May be he could replace Alonso, if he was hired by MERC, but I dont think that will happen either. The chance of JB to Williams, IMHO, is absolutely zero, but it seems some here want it so badly that create all kinds of reasons and possibilities to backup the idea.

[Nathan]

It amazes me people talk about Jenson going to Williams when it is known he turned down that seat months ago!  Now that he is more excited than ever to be done with it all he wants it back?

 

Edited by Nathan, 15 December 2016 - 04:55.

[Jvr]

According to Benson, Horner has told at BBC Radio 5 interview Sainz is not available.

 

http://www.bbc.com/s...rmula1/38319688

Edited by Jvr, 15 December 2016 - 07:38.

[smr]

the only way i can see jb back at williams is if he does it out of kindness and as a friend to the team, for frank and claire.

i doubt it will happen, according to these italian journos williams would offer him a higher salary than mclaren are paying him too.

[messy]

It amazes me people talk about Jenson going to Williams when it is known he turned down that seat months ago!  Now that he is more excited than ever to be done with it all he wants it back?

 

 

I don't think Button would come back, BUT he has said things like he felt he made the decision too quickly, and has never unless I've missed something, made his 'retirement' official. It was reported he had before Abu Dhabi; but wasn't that just a case of twisting things for a good headline? He said he was approaching Abu Dhabi as his final race, because he thought it was unlikely he'd be back in 2018 and didn't want to 'do a Barrichello' and not mark his final race thinking he'd be back when he wouldn't. 

 

Massa, by contrast, has officially retired. So I think Button is more likely. 

 

As for the Williams thing, I suppose it would depend why he turned them down first time round. If it was because he genuinely didn't fancy it then fine, he's not magically going to fancy it and more now a few weeks later. If it was a question of money, then Williams might have a bit more to offer now.....

 

I don't think it's particularly likely, but I wouldn't rule it out. Jenson has been interestingly silent on all this so far. 

[Cyanide]

According to Benson, Horner has told at BBC Radio 5 interview Sainz is not available.

 

http://www.bbc.com/s...rmula1/38319688

 

They're out of options at this point, so they'll likely have to go with Wehrlein.

 

Not sure Bottas would have been a better choice either, they seem to have their hands tied on this whole thing.

[LuckyStrike1]

This Button thing again ... 

 

Listen to what he said at Abu Dhabi. Not only that he approached it as his final race, but the tone and demenaour all showed a man not only realising he was leaving F1 but embracing it and being fully content with entering a new life without the pressures and scheduled lifestyle in F1. No motivation to do it again basically, and now speculation is that he would either enter a new high-pressure seat at Mercedes or a seat at Williams where he will basically continue another year in the midfield. 

 

I do not see it at all. 

 

And for his too quickly decision, it was rather he said he took the decision too early - i:e announcing it so early in the season meant he struggled to keep up the motivation for the rest of the season because once you're out you are out. 

So as much as I like Button, I also like the fact that he is now done with F1 and seems 100 % content with it leaving almost on his own terms. 

I think a lot points towards it being either Wehrlein or Bottas in the second Mercedes seat depending on how everything pans out, with Ocon a joker. 

[SophieB]

Dimi PAPADOPOULOS ‏@f1enigma  1m1 minute ago

@ L'Equipe > Massa in talks with Williams for a potential comeback (http://www.lequipe.fr/Formule-1/Article/Et-si-felipe-massa-revenait/760229 …)

[RedBaron]

 

Dimi PAPADOPOULOS ‏@f1enigma  1m1 minute ago

@ L'Equipe > Massa in talks with Williams for a potential comeback (http://www.lequipe.fr/Formule-1/Article/Et-si-felipe-massa-revenait/760229 …)

 

 

 

Wtf.

[Lotus53B]

Dear God, please, no...

[Marklar]

I will laugh if they have to take Wehrlein because nobody else is available and either they are a) dominating next year and/or b) Wehrlein can challenge Hamilton. In both cases it would make in hindsight the whole search for an better driver completely unneccesary.

*if a) happens but not b) I'm not sure if we are going to survive 2017 though

Not sure Bottas would have been a better choice either, they seem to have their hands tied on this whole thing.

He is the more comfortable choice. Even if he turns out to be not quicker than Wehrlein, he is much easier to handle. They had previously an difficult and an at least half-difficult driver and it really was on the edge. If anything about Wehrlein is true they will have two difficult drivers and one of them is unproven to be quick enough. Bottas is calmer than any of those while he is proved to be quick. The only disadvantage of Bottas is money

Wtf.

Would make sense as Williams needs an experienced driver. I was thinking about this yesterday

Edited by Marklar, 15 December 2016 - 08:34.

[SophieB]

Would he have to give all his presents back?

[septerra]

I would love to see Massa in that Williams if Bottas heads to Merc

[Marklar]

Would he have to give all his presents back?

For sure

[Ivanhoe]

For sure

Probably part of the contract negotiations

[Buttoneer]

Part 2 is here

http://forums.autosp...es-seat-part-2/

I can't move the poll so please continue to vote here if you haven't already.