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Graham Hill 1967 Monaco GP: which engine?


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#1 Zoony

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 10:24

Hi all.

 

I'm just doing a bit of research into Team Lotus F1 entries for my model collection, and I'm a tad confused about the engine Graham Hill had in the back of his Lotus 33 at Monaco in 1967.

 

As I understand, it was a 'BRM V8', but I can't seem to find what capacity that engine was. I believe there was a BRM P56 V8, and it may well have been one of those he used, but wasn't the P56 only a 1.5 litre unit?

 

So I'm a bit puzzled as to why he would use a 1.5 litre engine in 1967, over twelve months after the introduction of the 3.0 litre formula.

 

Thanks in advance for any help.



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#2 Tim Murray

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 10:51

BRM had 'stretched' their 1.5 litre V8 firstly to 1.9 litres to contest the 1966 Tasman Championship. Later the capacity was further increased to 2.1 litres (2070 cc) and it was with one of these 2.1 litre engines that Graham Hill finished second in the 1967 Monaco GP.

#3 Zoony

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 10:55

Brilliant!

 

Thanks Tim.



#4 uechtel

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 10:59

The H16 obviously did not work reliable enough and it was heavy, so for the character of the circuit it seemed more promising to use a light and easy handling car (as the year before) even if it gave away one third engine capacity.


Edited by uechtel, 05 January 2017 - 11:00.


#5 Glengavel

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 12:33

The H16 obviously did not work reliable enough and it was heavy, so for the character of the circuit it seemed more promising to use a light and easy handling car (as the year before) even if it gave away one third engine capacity.

 

I'm surprised Lotus bothered even taking the beast to the first race at South Africa. Looking at the results (with the benefit of hindsight of course), it's likely they would have picked up points with the old 33s.



#6 Cirrus

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 14:34

On the subject of small engines at Monaco '67. Johnny Servoz-Gavin qualified 11th with an F2 Matra FVA, ahead of several 3 Litre cars.



#7 Rupertlt1

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 14:53

Graham Hill, #14 is here:

https://revslib.stan...atch=any&utf8=✓

 

RGDS RLT



#8 Macca

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 15:28

And this very car, unseen for many years, is featured in the next 'Motor Sport'.

 

Paul M