Racing nicknames?
#1
Posted 27 April 2001 - 14:29
For the record, I mean this to be a respectful thread, not a collection of derogatory epithets, although I have to admit, "Andrea de Crasheris" isn't bad.
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#2
Posted 27 April 2001 - 15:12
I had a nice little story about nicknames in the National Historic Newsletter a few years ago, written by an old camp follower named Bob Pritchett... he's pretty old, but his memory for most of them was okay... the story was titled The Mouse Is In The Trap.
"A sephulcral voice announced this from somewhere toward the back of the assembled congregation attending the Thanksgiving Memorial service given at St Mark's, Darling Point (Sydney), for one of the Motor Racing community's favourite people, who had died in somewhat distressing circumstances some time previously.
"The Mouse (or even Mighty Mouse0 was how, to a select few of us (or so we chose to regard ourselves), Curley Brydon was known. Just about all of us were actively engaged in one way or another with motor racing in those halcyon days when people actually raced for the fun of it in cars which were not unusually their everyday transport - with mudguards, lamps, windscreens and other gear temporarily removed.
"Our Leader, probably because of his commanding presence and extensive experience in all aspects of Motor Sport, both in Australia and overseas, was The Master - John Snow - whose then-wife Betsy was, naturally enough, The Mistress.
"The Master, Mouse and The Trump (John Crouch), Damon Runyon readers all, were probably responsible between them for most of the alternative names by which people, as time went on, came to be known. In most cases these people cheerfully accepted and answered to their pseudonyms, but some of them had names which we, for reasons which will become obvious, hoped they didn't know about, and by which we would not have dreamed to address them.
"There were, for instance, Essing Jay the B (Smiling Jack the Basher), who was rumored to have chopped up his parents with an axe; The Septic Udder, whose features, we thought, looked like it; The Knife and The Sheath, a Riley driver and his much-loved second wife; Jelly Belly, and outstanding candidate for Gut Busters (but they hadn't been invented); Goose Grease Gus (probably because of his slicked-back hair?); and I'm not too certain about Toosipegs (not too certain whether he was called this to his face, that is to say). Borderline would be The Toad - Toad of Toad Hall - car dealer Jack Jeffery, who would accept his nomme de guerre without resentment from a few valued and tested friends.
"Frank Kleinig was, for obvious reasons, Dirt Track Charlie; Bill Patterson, a noted bon viveur, was Champagne Charlie; Lex Davison was the Millionaire Grazier, while Jack Murray, from his custom of blowing up outback outhouses, was universally known as Gelignite Jack.
"Sometimes occupational considerations would dictate a name - as, for instance, Trinkets Arnold Glass; sometimes it was physical characteristics, as for instance Rex Marshall (Baldy, or The Dome), Bill Reynolds (The Ziff), Brian Walker (Blackjack, subsequently Greyjack and eventually Whitejack) - the title Black Jack was inherited by (now Sir) Jack Brabham. Alf Najar was The Black Prince, Paul Samuels was (and is) Sartorial Sam, Biran Muir became Yogi Bear.
"And sometimes the names appeared to have been picked out of thin air, as for instance The Doc (Tom Lancey), The Trainer (Gordon Stewart), Scraper (Geoff Surtees, who worked for The Trainer and in due course married one of his daughters), The Professor (Tom Jemison, a noted fettler); but why call Barry Ravell The Phantom Chef?
"There were others - George Barton, who didn't practice his profession of Solicitor all that much, was George the Judge, I have heard Jack Myers referred to as The Little Master, and Backoff is very likely John Barraclough's own childish corruption of his own surname. Any suggestion that it referred to his race driving would be quite actionable. David McKay earned the title of Sir Malcolm (Campbell) very early in his racing career because of his extremely single-minded and serious approach to what was, to so many people in those happy days, more a source of enormous fun.
"I would like to acknowledge the help I had from The Trump, to say nothing of Max Stahl's contribution, stirring the turgid mud pools of memory to recall these names. Neither The Trump nor I could bring to mind what, if anything, we used to call the incomparable Alf Barrett, although it could have been Alfie; Max suggests The Master, but there was only one Master and he was John Snow."
Bob The Brain
Alf Barrett was known, to my knowledge anyway, as The Maestro... a most deserved title, apparently.
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Posted 27 April 2001 - 15:22
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Posted 27 April 2001 - 15:31
#5
Posted 27 April 2001 - 16:22
#6
Posted 27 April 2001 - 16:56
Niki Lauda was known as "the mighty mouse"/"the rat"/"the super
rat"/"king rat" (depending on what year we are talking about of course);)
Stefan Johansson was known as "Lill Lövis" (The little leaf)
Jody Scheckter was known as "Fletcher" (sp). As far as I remember the name came from a seagull in some book I forgot the name of, that took chances and crashed over and over again.
And then we got all the nicknames from the 50s.
Here are some of them:
Chiron: "Le Vieux Renard"
Farina: "Nino"
Fangio "El Chueco"
Ascari :"Chiccio"
Bonetto: "Il Pirata"
Gonzales: "Pepe"
Villoresi: "Gigi"
De Graffenried: "Toulo"
Trintignant: "Le Petoulet"
von Trips: "Taffy"
#7
Posted 27 April 2001 - 18:10
#8
Posted 27 April 2001 - 18:34
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"Trintignant: "Le Petoulet"
Does anyone know if Maurice had a "problem" with this?
#9
Posted 27 April 2001 - 19:20
#10
Posted 27 April 2001 - 19:42
As far as New Zealanders are concerned, I don't know if "The Bear" can really be described as a nickname, as I doubt if many people would have been brave enough to use it to his face.
Graham McRae's supreme self-confidence led to his being called Cassius, after the boxer Cassis "I am the greatest" Clay. That name you could use to his face, as I did in a television interview around 1970.
On a slightly OT note, some English friends still refer to Oliver Jellybean, a name they were sure they heard in Le Mans radio broadcasts when they were very young.
Oh, and getting back to the Australians, we shouldn't forget "Donkey Dick" Perkins....
#11
Posted 27 April 2001 - 20:33
The Pampas Bull = Froilan Gonzales
Seppi = Jo Siffert
"Mad Ronald" Peterson (given by Mike the Bike)
Super Tex = AJ Foyt
Glenn "Fireball" Roberts
Lone Star = Johnny Rutherford
Jody Scheckter was nicknamed "The Cub" when at McLaren because people compared his percieved ruggedness to Hulme's.
Senna was also "Magic" and "The Black Diamond" (during his Lotus days).
"Big" John Surtees's nickname was actually given by the Italian press. It's really "Il Grande" John, which correctly translates as "John The Great". It's far more appropriate I think...
#12
Posted 27 April 2001 - 21:12
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Posted 27 April 2001 - 23:29
#14
Posted 27 April 2001 - 23:54
Then there's the name Murray Walker came up with - "The Flying Finn from Scotland". That one didn't seem to catch on...
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Posted 28 April 2001 - 00:45
#16
Posted 28 April 2001 - 07:50
#17
Posted 28 April 2001 - 08:39
Carlos Reutemann - "Lole" from El Lole Spanish for the bull
Jarier was also known as "Jumper" for his starts
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Posted 28 April 2001 - 08:57
#19
Posted 28 April 2001 - 14:06
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#20
Posted 28 April 2001 - 14:15
Same also goes for Lt.Col. Alan TG Gardner ("Goldie")
REL Featherstonehaugh ("Buddy")
Captain LG Hornsted ("Cupid")
Does anyone know the given names for those two?
Oh, don't forget "Phi-Phi" Etancelin, and didn't Senna start people referring to Nelson Piquet as the "Sao Paulo Taxi-driver"?
Martin Schanche is always "Mr Rallycross".
And there was a period in the early eighties when the British Formula Ford championship had two drivers who had the name John Booth. So to avoid too much confusion, they were referred to by their professions, one worked for a meat company, the other for an umbrella manufacturer. They were forever after "Butcher Booth" and "Brolly Booth".
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Posted 28 April 2001 - 14:39
#22
Posted 28 April 2001 - 18:08
Goldie wasn't a nickname. It was one of the three forenames of Alfred Thomas Goldie Gardner
I believe Hornsted's first name was Ligurd
And the famous saxophonist was Rupert Edward Lee Featherstonhaugh
And I have always shared your concerns about W B Scott:)
#23
Posted 28 April 2001 - 19:52
Intriguing. I think therefore there's an edition of Veteran & Vintage magazine from the early 1970s that has led me astray there. Thanks for the tip.
And especial thanks for the suggestion on Hornsted. That one's been driving me nuts for the best part of a decade.
"John Winter" was Louis Krages.
Any ideas on "Amphicar"? And why...?
#24
Posted 28 April 2001 - 20:57
#25
Posted 28 April 2001 - 21:42
#26
Posted 29 April 2001 - 00:54
Wilson Fittipaldi Jr = TIGRAO (big tiger)
#27
Posted 29 April 2001 - 01:08
#28
Posted 29 April 2001 - 02:14
Originally posted by Jon Allen
Which reminds me - forgive my ignorance, but why is Lauda known as "the Rat"? I believe the nickname took hold before he became Jaguar's motivational speaker. (No offense to Lauda fans - a very great driver.)
why would 'the rat' want to work for a cat?
Not a very complimentary nickname...
#29
Posted 29 April 2001 - 10:59
Which reminds me - forgive my ignorance, but why is Lauda known as "the Rat"?
I think the reason can be deduced by looking at a pre-Nürburgring '76 picture of him. Something about the teeth and the shape of the mouth. (With all due respect!)
Vanwall.:yawn:
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Posted 30 April 2001 - 17:10
#31
Posted 08 April 2003 - 01:29
Thanks everyone for the information.
#32
Posted 08 April 2003 - 02:29
Golden Boy, Maestro, Siver Fox, Regenmeister, Nebelmeister, Bergmeister, Lionheart, Kansas Flash, Old Fox
And few others I'm sure...
#33
Posted 08 April 2003 - 04:23
Originally posted by Leif Snellman
Stefan Johansson was known as "Lill Lövis" (The little leaf)
He was also known as "Steve Johnson" during his days when he lived & raced in England.
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#34
Posted 08 April 2003 - 07:09
#35
Posted 08 April 2003 - 10:55
Originally posted by Wolf
Let's see whom you still haven't mentioned...
Golden Boy, Maestro, Siver Fox, Regenmeister, Nebelmeister, Bergmeister, Lionheart, Kansas Flash, Old Fox
And few others I'm sure...
I've heard Jacques Villeneuve referred to more than once as a name combining "Regen" and the German for, er, used food - although he usually just seems to be "Jacks" (persons of a suitably lavatorial turn of mind will note that that was 18th century slang for a convenience, and I think still is in parts of Ireland...)
pete
#36
Posted 08 April 2003 - 19:03
#37
Posted 08 April 2003 - 22:01
One which has always puzzled me is Raymond Sommer's which styled him 'Le Sanglier des Ardennes' ('The Wild Boar of the Ardennes'?) while 'Coeur de Lion' ('Lionheart') was rather more understandable.
Lauda's good looks and dental profile earned him 'The Rat', and his egomaniacal politicking 'The Devious Mouse', while his home was nicknamed 'The Maus Haus'... which was quite good fun.
Salvadori was 'Salvo' in part because his tactics entering corners often resembled the arrival of a salvo of artillery fire.
Ascari was nicknamed 'Ciccio' by his mates which I've always understood translated most appropriately to 'Tubby' though I'm sure this might bear correction???
And then I can recall several drivers who were known by mechanics, team managers and rivals alike simply as "...Here comes the Bastard Now"....
DCN
#38
Posted 08 April 2003 - 22:17
Originally posted by bs
Don Garlits - Swamp Rat
I always thought that was the car's name?
And while we're on drag racing, Pete Robinson was known as 'Sneaky Pete'... affectionately as far as I know.
Doug's final one reminds me that it was especially among his team that Frank Matich was known as 'Cranky Franky'...
#39
Posted 08 April 2003 - 23:11
Pancho: Bill Vukovich was also known as 'The Mad Russian', but I'm not sure he liked that monniker.
bs: And of course, Don Garlits was aka; Big Daddy Don
Danny Ongais; The Flyin' Hawaiian
Danny Sullivan; Danny 'Spin and Win' Sullivan
Kevin 'Crash' Cogan (FAIRLY OR UNFAIRLY)
Roger 'The Captain' Penske
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#40
Posted 09 April 2003 - 08:08
#41
Posted 09 April 2003 - 09:38
Beppe Gabbiani: "Cavallo pazzo" (Crazy horse), for his impetuousness.
#42
Posted 09 April 2003 - 11:57
#43
Posted 09 April 2003 - 14:08
Fabrizio Giovanardi: "Piedone" ("big foot", just like Mario Andretti)
Alessandro Nannini: "Il nano" ("the dwarf")
Berardo Taraschi: "Il lupo d'Abruzzo" ("the Abruzzo wolf")
More to follow.
#44
Posted 09 April 2003 - 15:18
Tazio Nuvolari: "Il mantovano volante", that's a "classic" nickname
Jacky Ickx: "Pierino" (evoking a spiteful and disobedient scamp).
#45
Posted 09 April 2003 - 15:24
#46
Posted 09 April 2003 - 16:01
Yes, my memory fails me yet again. It was "Big Daddy" Don Garlits, Swamp Rat was the name given to his rails.
How about Mark Donohue: Captain Nice?
#47
Posted 11 April 2003 - 18:00
-William
#48
Posted 13 March 2006 - 09:07
4 - Juan Montoya
T - Pedro De La Rosa
T - Luca Badoer
8 - Jarno Trulli
T - Olivier Panis
9 - Mark Webber
10 - Nico Rosberg
T - Alex Wurz
12 - Jenson Button
15 - Christian Klein
T - Robert Doornbos
17 - Jacques Villeneuve
T - Robert Kubica
20 - Vitantonio Liuzzi
21 - Scott Speed
T - Neel Jani
22 - Takuma Sato
23 - Yuchi Ide
Can you help me ?
Thanks
#49
Posted 13 March 2006 - 09:46
Originally posted by Bob Amblard
For the 2006 F1 championship, I don't know several nicknames of drivers, if they possess one :
4 - Juan Montoya
T - Pedro De La Rosa
T - Luca Badoer
8 - Jarno Trulli
T - Olivier Panis
9 - Mark Webber
10 - Nico Rosberg
T - Alex Wurz
12 - Jenson Button
15 - Christian Klein
T - Robert Doornbos
17 - Jacques Villeneuve
T - Robert Kubica
20 - Vitantonio Liuzzi
21 - Scott Speed
T - Neel Jani
22 - Takuma Sato
23 - Yuchi Ide
Can you help me ?
Thanks
I can think of two:
Juan "who ate all the pies" Montoya
Jacques "F*****g" Villeneuve (that one is courtesy of Sniff Petrol).
As for the others - do they have sufficient in the way of character traits to acquire a nickname?
#50
Posted 13 March 2006 - 09:49