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#1 Ray Bell

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 01:38

A few weeks ago I made contact with Mark Agnew, who has made himself into something of an expert on the Ascort GT...

He has a website about them and hopes others will give more information.

"Ascort GT?" I hear you ask. Yes, the Australian-built Ascort GT, somewhat similar to the Karmann Ghia, but rather less common and rather more upmarket.

It was built by Mirek Craney in Sydney and he had some big plans for production and even export of the cars. Like many of the Lotus and similar sports cars it drew parts from a wide range of production vehicles:

Chassis, suspension, basic engine and transmission - Volkswagen 36 and 40hp (but with Okrasa kits).

Body - bespoke fibreglass body by Craney.

Seats - bespoke, but probably mostly modeled on VW parts.

Windscreen - Peugeot 403.

Rear window - Austin A90.

Ashtrays - Holden FE front, FJ rear.

Door handles - inside, unknown. Outside, Morris Isis.

The latter item led to an interesting snippet. "They're from a Morris Isis," Mark said to me. "That means they're the same as Morris Oxford," I replied. "And?" he came back.

"Ambassador, of course," was my natural response, "to keep your Enfield company!"

As Mark showed me some brand new Ambassador door handles we stood amongst a wondrous collection of 'toys' including that Enfield motorcycle - which was made in India.

But one thing that has mark wondering is the name badge at the front...

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It took mark weeks of laborious effort to duplicate these letters, and he did it because he could find no other car which carried them.

Surely they were not another bespoke item? Can anyone think of a vehicle which had these letters formed like this?

Oh, yes, he duplicated the badge above it in resin as well.

The scroll badge at the back he has similarly duplicated, but it would have been made for the purpose.

As he has two of the cars he has to do some of this twice... but he's not afraid of the work...

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So if anyone can give any clues on those letters, please let us know!




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Edited by Ray Bell, 11 January 2017 - 01:44.


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#2 Librules

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 01:46

They don't have to be off a car.   My immediate thought was refrigerator.......



#3 Ray Bell

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 01:49

You're right there...

Can you think of a brand?

#4 HairyScalextrix

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 08:35

Potential to be from an old stove rather than a refrigerator too, the obvious brand with the lettering on the outside is general electric but without a model name in addition it obviously doesn't apply to this case.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 09:53

Sorry, I'll say this then be quiet. A quick look online at forums.pre67vw.com has a thread about the car and a poster called 'ascort' lists the car parts sourced elsewhere. It might well be the same gentleman? On there it suggests the emblems were all custom made.

#6 Librules

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 08:39

I'm more than happy to accept the emblems as being custom-made, but am a tad bemused by the apparent difference in style between 'Ascort' using the separate letters,   the cursive script 'Ascort' (as seen on other sites) and the other badge shown above.   I can't find any appliances using the appropriate letters, but one using the word 'Coaster' would be appropriate.   It would, of course, be quite serendipitous to find a whitegood or similar with the letters required after naming a car.



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Posted 12 January 2017 - 14:39

It may be my eyesight or purely the photo above but the 'R' does not look like it belongs with the other letters? It looks like a different font and a 'P' with an extra additional leg added.

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Posted 13 January 2017 - 09:03

I have a photo of the Ascort in Sydney with the Harbour Bridge as a background, there is only the Badge on the front of the Bonnet, no name by letters.

On the motor cover (at the back VW) there is the word Ascot but in a running writing with the RH leg of the A at its base continueing at 90deg to the right forming a underline bar finishing just past the T.

Apparently there was a total of 19 Ascorts produced but securing new VW parts at a resonable price put an end to the project, the last few of the total 19 bodies were sold as body conversion only, there was at the time a total of 57 orders but all monies for those after number 19 were returned thus ending the Ascort.

Reference: Great Australian Sports Cars & Specials.

Edited by DanTra2858, 13 January 2017 - 09:05.


#9 Ray Bell

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Posted 13 January 2017 - 09:55

Yes, Daniel, Mark's website shows that rear badge...

And it's true that some cars seem to 'lose' the letters at the front. Souvenired? Never fitted? Unlikely it's the latter, but I suspect that the Harbour Bridge photo/s you have are also on his website.

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Posted 13 January 2017 - 23:46

Pure speculation without checking: did Ford ever use similar letters for Escort and Cortina?  



#11 Allan Lupton

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Posted 14 January 2017 - 08:30

Pure speculation without checking: did Ford ever use similar letters for Escort and Cortina?  

I don't know, but I do remember that in 1960ish Derek Brunt's Mercury-engined Ford Pilot rally car had the word "SUPER" added, having used letters from Ford's ZEPHYR and CONSUL



#12 Ray Bell

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Posted 14 January 2017 - 09:49

The letters are all a strange shape...

I'm sure they'd stand out if we found them.