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#51 superden

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Posted 30 January 2017 - 00:12

I thought it was always a caravan.


Or a Mini Metro. Or a holiday (later series). Or, gasp, a fully fitted kitchen for the lucky lady.

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#52 TF110

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Posted 30 January 2017 - 01:16

The SF-17 Justin Bieber, surely?

They'd have to sign Lewis automatically, Bieber's orders  :lol:



#53 beqa16v

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Posted 30 January 2017 - 06:50

SF-17 Jikia Beka (my surname and name).

Thank you ferrari



#54 Ferrari2183

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Posted 30 January 2017 - 13:32

This is really not about the car... Every time a post is made in here I open the thread hoping to see some news, even speculative, about the car but instead it's just this stupid name jokes.



#55 Maustinsj

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Posted 30 January 2017 - 18:33

In that case it should be the SF-17 Jest Buster!

#56 Pete_f1

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Posted 30 January 2017 - 18:44

I'm sure the wind tunnel figures look good

#57 GeeVeeF1

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Posted 30 January 2017 - 22:42

First picture of Antonio Giovinazzi in Ferrari F1 uniform:

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http://www.gazzetta....dc9f5MQ_twitter

#58 Exb

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 16:43

https://www.instagra.../p/BP7Ln6VFijK/
Ferrari have posted a photo on their instagram of a 2017? front wing model (I'm assuming it is a wind tunnel model?) I can't copy & post the pic whilst I'm at work :(

Edited by Exb, 31 January 2017 - 16:48.


#59 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 16:47

https://www.instagra.../p/BP7Ln6VFijK/

Ferrari have posted a photo on their instagram of a 2017? front wing model (I'm assuming it is a wind tunnel model?) I can't copy & post the pic whilst I'm at work :(

 

Defo not 2017. Identical to the one they ended 2016 with.


Edited by ConsiderAndGo, 31 January 2017 - 16:48.


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#60 Zava

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 16:53

Defo not 2017. Identical to the one they ended 2016 with.

also it is not angled like an arrow, definitely not 2017 spec.



#61 RainyAfterlifeDaylight

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 16:56

Ferrari eyes innovative piston solution thanks to 3D printing

 

http://www.motorspor...rinting-870008/

 

 

Ehmmm...

 

Honda, Mercedes and Renault can you confirm you understood that article?


Edited by RainyAfterlifeDaylight, 31 January 2017 - 16:58.


#62 CPR

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 17:04

Here's an example of a 3D printed cylinder head:
 
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I saw this on Scarbs's blog last year and thought it looked pretty cool.

#63 kevinracefan

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 17:19

Piero Ferrari "would like at least 3 wins in 2017":

 

http://blog.quotidia...-piero-ferrari/

in that brief window of time when Ferrari wasn't totally average, they wanted 15 wins..

 

their soft ambition is playing out, LOL...



#64 kevinracefan

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 17:31

#include <ferrari.h>

 

uint32_t currentYear    = 2007;     //Starting date

uint32_t thisIsOurYear = 0;           //Next Ferrari world title date

 

while(true){                                   //Infinite loop

   thisIsOurYear = currentYear + 1;

}

 

If for only 3 minutes they would be able to stop firing people and let the engineers do their job without fear to loose their jobs if they fail to perform then they would be dominating F1 again. For them the solution is always to restructure the team, fire people and hire some star engineer to fire him next season blaming him of everything. Marchione is a top businessman, but a F1 team don't work exactly in the same way as a corporation, and he still haven't understood that. The Italian press don't help either selling smoke every winter to then publicly hung them at the very first grand prix of the season.

all of these things are true.. that is the joy of not being a Ferrari fan, laughing at their basic ineptitude VS big talk....

 

what was the last thing they invented on a racecar that made it go faster??

 

I can't remember one..

 

I will say, their interpretation of the F-duct was the best in the field, IMO...



#65 kevinracefan

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 17:34

This is really not about the car... Every time a post is made in here I open the thread hoping to see some news, even speculative, about the car but instead it's just this stupid name jokes.

irony



#66 Motorist

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Posted 31 January 2017 - 17:48

all of these things are true.. that is the joy of not being a Ferrari fan, laughing at their basic ineptitude VS big talk....

 

what was the last thing they invented on a racecar that made it go faster??

 

I can't remember one..

 

I will say, their interpretation of the F-duct was the best in the field, IMO...

 

This thread is for discussing the 2017 Ferrari's F1 car. It is not for making silly jokes about Ferrari being average, etc. It is just your opinion. 

 

Also, if you can't remember anything that Ferrari invented, it doesn't mean they didn't.


Edited by Motorist, 31 January 2017 - 17:49.


#67 george1981

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 08:40

Regarding the 3D printed pistons. In my current job we're interested in additive manufacturing but there is a worry about fatigue. It is thought/known that there are micro cracks between each additive layer. These cracks grow under cyclic loading and then lead to early failure of the component. A piston is going to see high structural and thermal cyclic loads, I would be very interested to see how Ferrari get on. I presume these pistons have been bench tested already so they must have made some progress with the fatigue life. 



#68 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 08:51

Not sure why they'd let it leak out to the world, though..

#69 Claudiu

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 10:09

Not sure why they'd let it leak out to the world, though..

 

It's not like other companies are not looking into this technology themselves, it's not a big secret.



#70 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 10:38

It's not like other companies are not looking into this technology themselves, it's not a big secret.

Yeah, but still, what's the point?



#71 YoungGun

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 10:51

Yeah, but still, what's the point?

 

Did you read the article?

 

The degree of freedom that comes from 3D Printing, allied to the speed of production, has opened up a new frontier of design development for something that was once limited to prototyping plastic parts for wind tunnel models.

 

Seems like it can be beneficial?



#72 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 11:54

Did you read the article?

 

 

 

 

Seems like it can be beneficial?

Yes I read the article, and yes I can see why it would be beneficial.

 

I am not asking 'why even bother trying', I'm asking why they felt the need to announce it to the world.



#73 Rinehart

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 12:18

Yes I read the article, and yes I can see why it would be beneficial.

 

I am not asking 'why even bother trying', I'm asking why they felt the need to announce it to the world.

I don't think they've exactly held a press conference and presented an animation and technical info...

 

That said, to answer your question, one reason a team might release "some" information, particularly where research and development of a certain area is well advanced - would be part of a tactic of destabilization in other teams. Get other teams worried and inquisitive about the development avenue, get them diverting resources and generally adopting a more risky approach to catch up on the perceived deficit.

 

I think these plots work best of all when the destabilization tactic is based on a total bluff! 



#74 kevinracefan

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 12:19

they have a mandate from the Italian media to have 1 "This is going to be awesome /This will win races" news release monthly.. I think it's some sort of local code..



#75 ensign14

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 12:21

So same basic nose as in 2016 according to that source. I'd hoped the penis noses would disappear...

 

Penis nose from a website beginning F1 anal.  Hm.



#76 PilotPlant91

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 15:52

I don't think they've exactly held a press conference and presented an animation and technical info...

 

That said, to answer your question, one reason a team might release "some" information, particularly where research and development of a certain area is well advanced - would be part of a tactic of destabilization in other teams. Get other teams worried and inquisitive about the development avenue, get them diverting resources and generally adopting a more risky approach to catch up on the perceived deficit.

 

I think these plots work best of all when the destabilization tactic is based on a total bluff! 

 

I dont think ferrari is smart enough to do that~~~



#77 Forghieri

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Posted 03 February 2017 - 21:27

New post from F1AT on the 2017 Ferrari power unit:

 

http://www.f1analisi...-unit-2017.html

 

Main points:

 

- energy recovery from MGU-K will be less than in 2016 because of shorter braking time, therefore MGU-H will become more important

- turbine and compressor will be redesigned from 2016 but kept together, not split as in Mercedes engine

- no big changes on the ICE, just optimization of the HCCI

- target for Australia: peak power > 1000 CV (already reached at the bench, but with teething problems)

- 3 new addictive manufacturing machines arrived in Maranello, currently under calibration

- not worried about the power unit, but they are worried about the chassis/aero because of the delay piled up in the first part of 2016, they tried to make up ground in the last 6 months thanks to huge work from Rory Byrne (hopefully haste will not make waste)

 

Edited: engine -> power unit


Edited by Forghieri, 04 February 2017 - 08:46.


#78 beute

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Posted 04 February 2017 - 01:37

I dont think ferrari is smart enough to do that~~~

some unpaid forum poster came up with the idea, and you  doubt a multi-million dollar company could?



#79 Ferrari2183

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Posted 04 February 2017 - 11:41

New post from F1AT on the 2017 Ferrari power unit:

http://www.f1analisi...-unit-2017.html

Main points:

- energy recovery from MGU-K will be less than in 2016 because of shorter braking time, therefore MGU-H will become more important
- turbine and compressor will be redesigned from 2016 but kept together, not split as in Mercedes engine
- no big changes on the ICE, just optimization of the HCCI
- target for Australia: peak power > 1000 CV (already reached at the bench, but with teething problems)
- 3 new addictive manufacturing machines arrived in Maranello, currently under calibration
- not worried about the power unit, but they are worried about the chassis/aero because of the delay piled up in the first part of 2016, they tried to make up ground in the last 6 months thanks to huge work from Rory Byrne (hopefully haste will not make waste)

Edited: engine -> power unit

Getting the excuses out of the way before the season has even started. It's really frustrating being a Ferrari fan.

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#80 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 04 February 2017 - 12:03

Getting the excuses out of the way before the season has even started. It's really frustrating being a Ferrari fan.

Exactly how I read it.

 

"worried about aero" LOL! Since 2009. :rotfl:



#81 PilotPlant91

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Posted 04 February 2017 - 12:58

tell me something new......

 

Aero is the main factor in 2017!!  :lol:



#82 muramasa

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Posted 04 February 2017 - 14:17

Getting the excuses out of the way before the season has even started. It's really frustrating being a Ferrari fan.

most or all of those are just their guesses.



#83 George Costanza

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Posted 05 February 2017 - 19:59

Getting the excuses out of the way before the season has even started. It's really frustrating being a Ferrari fan.

I said this before and will say it again. Ferrari was only a excellent team when Michael Schumacher was there. Look at the results before and after.

Edited by George Costanza, 05 February 2017 - 20:00.


#84 BRG

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Posted 05 February 2017 - 20:05

Saying it over and over again doesn't make it true.  Ferrari won the WDC and WCC many times without the assistance of any German driver.



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Posted 05 February 2017 - 20:41

most or all of those are just their guesses.

Talk, talk, talk..and you're a know it all! 👎🏼

#86 DrF

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Posted 05 February 2017 - 21:03

I said this before and will say it again. Ferrari was only a excellent team when Michael Schumacher was there. Look at the results before and after.

Yes, 2007 and 2008 were terrible.

#87 Reinmuster

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Posted 06 February 2017 - 06:24

Yes, 2007 and 2008 were terrible.

 

1996-2006 hangover?  :rotfl:



#88 PilotPlant91

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Posted 06 February 2017 - 07:51

Schumacher was so great that once he left merc, they became dominant team.

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Posted 06 February 2017 - 13:54

It still amuses me how people (partially) do not take lessons from the past. Over and over time we saw the explicit examples of that a driver is not the one producing/designing/dictating the car or whatever you call it, let alone saving the entire team on his own. They should understand that the drivers are the pieces of a big puzzle and one piece slotted into place does not make the picture a whole. For that, you need to put the rest of the pieces into their right places as well.  

 

Schumacher undeniably was one of leading actors of a well respected era in Ferrari history. Yet he is not the answer of today's problems by itself as wasn't in the past. What the team need is a strong management construction linked with strong execution on track. Since it was what they had during those days with Todt-Brawn-Shumacher-Barrichelo combination, in other words to form a voltron :)


Edited by kimister, 06 February 2017 - 13:56.


#90 gilez

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Posted 06 February 2017 - 15:33

I said this before and will say it again. Ferrari was only a excellent team when Michael Schumacher was there. Look at the results before and after.

 

Hmm not sure, these things go in cycles. Ferrari was a very good F1 team in the whole 50s, early 60s, mid 70s to early 80s, shortly in 89-90, then from 99 to 2008.So, not only with Schumacher, although of course the "dream team" Todt-Brawn-Byrne-Schumacher was surely the most impressive. Same can be said for other historic teams like McLaren and Williams. Of course, competition gets tougher every day, but teams with a strong tradition make the effort to bounce back. 


Edited by gilez, 06 February 2017 - 15:35.


#91 VIVAFERRARI

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Posted 06 February 2017 - 16:27

I put couple of Coronas that a lot of haters would be surprised :smoking:



#92 Forghieri

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 16:11

Current team structure:

 

- Binotto supported by Resta at the top

- Sassi and Fraboni supported by Zimmermann on the power unit

- Sanchez and Cardile on the aero

 

http://sport.sky.it/...za-momento.html



#93 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 16:39

Current team structure:

 

- Binotto supported by Resta at the top

- Sassi and Fraboni supported by Zimmermann on the power unit

- Sanchez and Cardile on the aero

 

http://sport.sky.it/...za-momento.html

 

 

WHO?!



#94 Forghieri

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 16:50

WHO?!

 

David Sanchez joined Ferrari in 2012 from McLaren; Enrico Cardile arrived in 2016 from Ferrari GT.



#95 tweiss

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 17:17

Schumacher was so great that once he left merc, they became dominant team.

exactly...the work he did with Brawn and Nico set them up for greatness...building a F1 team is years of hard work...Just ask Haas.



#96 Marklar

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 18:43

This discussion is perfect for the F1 myths thread.



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Posted 08 February 2017 - 21:09

Here is What Leo Turrini ( an italian journalist known having good inside contacts in Ferrari) wrote today on his blog. Let me remind you that Turrini has its own style in his articles, generally hard-ish at first to understand what he meant :drunk: , likes to imply, making analogies,attributes rather than saying explicitly.

 

(Google translated)

 

Abba from the soundtrack of the new Ferrari

Every now dear friends urge me.

But why do not you say something about the new Ferrari?!?

Ah here.

I know something.

I spoke with someone.

I saw something.

I'm quiet, in silence, because the shock of 2016 has left heavy marks on my skin.

Then, coming back from a delusional presentation of the book on Drake along the mythical engineer Forghieri, I understand.

Soundtrack for the Red in 2017.

Abba.

Anthem hypotheses, choice of cloggaro* player.

  1. Mamma mia (Here I go again ....)
  2. Dancing Queen.
  3. Waterloo (aaarggghhhhhh!)
  4. Sos (aaaarggghhhhhh)
  5. Fernando (no, come on, this no, come on)
  6. Knowing me, knowing you (that is, we know the story, right?)
  7. Forghieri says that the Old Abba liked a lot. Mo goes there.

 

http://blog.quotidia...-nuova-ferrari/

 

*cloggaro is a name which Leo gave to his followers of his blog.


Edited by kimister, 08 February 2017 - 21:13.


#98 Jerem

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 21:29

Here is What Leo Turrini ( an italian journalist known having good inside contacts in Ferrari) wrote today on his blog. Let me remind you that Turrini has its own style in his articles, generally hard-ish at first to understand what he meant :drunk: , likes to imply, making analogies,attributes rather than saying explicitly.

 

(Google translated)

 

Abba from the soundtrack of the new Ferrari

Every now dear friends urge me.

But why do not you say something about the new Ferrari?!?

Ah here.

I know something.

I spoke with someone.

I saw something.

I'm quiet, in silence, because the shock of 2016 has left heavy marks on my skin.

Then, coming back from a delusional presentation of the book on Drake along the mythical engineer Forghieri, I understand.

Soundtrack for the Red in 2017.

Abba.

Anthem hypotheses, choice of cloggaro* player.

  1. Mamma mia (Here I go again ....)
  2. Dancing Queen.
  3. Waterloo (aaarggghhhhhh!)
  4. Sos (aaaarggghhhhhh)
  5. Fernando (no, come on, this no, come on)
  6. Knowing me, knowing you (that is, we know the story, right?)
  7. Forghieri says that the Old Abba liked a lot. Mo goes there.

 

http://blog.quotidia...-nuova-ferrari/

 

*cloggaro is a name which Leo gave to his followers of his blog.

I know that Waterloo means victory in UK and defeat in France, but what does it mean in Italy?
BTW, #7 means that Enzo F. liked Abba a lot (it's clear from the original article, not so much from that Google translation)


Edited by Jerem, 08 February 2017 - 21:30.


#99 RainyAfterlifeDaylight

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 21:44

It looks like Leo Turrini still suffers from something. I wonder if Ferrari allow him to play in their backyard anymore in recent years.


Edited by RainyAfterlifeDaylight, 08 February 2017 - 21:54.


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#100 shonguiz

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Posted 08 February 2017 - 21:53

Yeah in short, he knows ****.