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[HistoryFan]

Dallara built so many racing cars.

Does anyone know how much cars were built in total?

How many different models?

[kevinracefan]

I was thinking the same thing just the other day..

 

Indycars

 

part of the Haas car

 

Cadillac prototype

 

Mazda prototype

 

?? others ??

[KWSN - DSM]

A lot.

 

https://en.wikipedia...of_Dallara_cars

 

[SonnyViceR]

Mazda prototype

 

That's a Riley, not Dallara

 

(assuming you're talking about the current cars)

[HistoryFan]

I think Dallara is the manufacture with the most racing cars built.

[KWSN - DSM]

I think Dallara is the manufacture with the most racing cars built.

 

I remember Reynard being touted as such, but as time passes could very likely be Dallara - Vaguely back in my mind I recall an article from Autosport late 80ies or early 90ies stating an Estonian manufacturer to actually holding the record. Presume have been manufacturing for the various Eastern Block racing series.

 

[kevinracefan]

That's a Riley, not Dallara

 

(assuming you're talking about the current cars)

Thanx, I stand corrected

[highdownforce]

A lot.

 

https://en.wikipedia...of_Dallara_cars

 

 

All formula cars designed by Dallara to hit the tracks since the year 2000:

 

Dallara IL-15 - Indy Lights

Dallara SF14 - Super Formula

Spark-Renault SRT 01E - Formula E

Dallara GP3/13 - GP3 Series

Dallara DW12 - IndyCar Series

Dallara T12 - World Series by Renault

Dallara F312 - Formula 3

Dallara GP2/11 - GP2 Series

Dallara F311 - Formula 3

Dallara GP3/10 - GP3 Series

Hispania F110 - Formula 1

Dallara F310 - Formula 3

Dallara F309 - Formula 3

Dallara Formulino Pro - MRF Challenge Formula 2000

Dallara Formulino Plus - ADAC Formel Masters

Dallara GP2/08 - GP2 Series

Dallara T08 - World Series by Renault

Dallara F308 - Formula 3

Dallara F307 - Formula 3

Dallara F306 - Formula 3

Dallara GP2/05 - GP2 Series

Dallara T05 - World Series by Renault

Dallara F305 - Formula 3

Dallara F304 - Formula 3

Dallara IR03 - IndyCar Series

Dallara F303 - Formula 3

Dallara SN01 - World Series by Nissan

Dallara IPS - IRL Infiniti Pro Series

Dallara F302 - Formula 3

Dallara F301 - Formula 3

Dallara IR00 - Indy Racing League

Dallara F300 - Formula 3

[chunder27]

They built the Scuderia Italia F1 cars aswell in the early 90's didn't they?

[highdownforce]

They built the Scuderia Italia F1 cars aswell in the early 90's didn't they?

 

Yes!

 

All F1 cars designed by Dallara:

 

2010 - Hispania F110

1998 - Honda RA099 *prototype

1992 - Scuderia Italia Dallara 192

1991 - Scuderia Italia Dallara 191

1990 - Scuderia Italia Dallara 190

1989 - Scuderia Italia Dallara 189

1988 - Scuderia Italia Dallara 188

1988 - Scuderia Italia Dallara 3087 (a F3000 car entered in F1)

Edited by highdownforce, 13 February 2017 - 16:05.

[johnmhinds]

Last years Haas was built by Dallara too, and I think they are doing this years one as well.

[KWSN - DSM]

To answer myself... https://en.wikipedia...tonia_(race_car) So about 1300 cars build by TARK, my Reynard number hover at 1000 - Dallara must be close if not already there.

 

[BMWTeamBigazzi]

Many Sports Cars were built/designed or engineered in some way by Dallara, notable ones include

 

Lancia LC1 Group 6 

Lancia LC2 Group C

Ferrari 333SP

Toyota GT-One (Chassis)

Chrysler LMP/Dallara SP1

Audi R8 (Chassis)

Edited by BMWTeamBigazzi, 13 February 2017 - 16:52.

[SonnyViceR]

+ Now-extinct Dallara Daytona Prototypes in DPG2 (Doran acquired) and DPG3 (disguised under rebrand "Corvette" body panels)

 

+ Dallara LMP2 (current)

 

+ Dallara LMP1 (next year - probably)

[jonpollak]

Truly epic output.

Jp

[HairyScalextrix]

That Wikipedia link only shows the 2003 R8 but not the R8r from 1999? Dallara certainly built that version run by Joest while the other '99 Audi was the coupe built in-house and a bit rushed. I thought the r8r was a different car to the later Le Mans winners?

[highdownforce]

Last years Haas was built by Dallara too, and I think they are doing this years one as well.

 

Yes it was, I'm just not sure how the IP ownership for this car works.

Funny thing: there is no word about Dallara at Haas site, kind of lame I might say.

[HistoryFan]

 

Yes!

 

All F1 cars designed by Dallara:

 

2010 - Hispania F110

1998 - Honda RA099 *prototype

1992 - Scuderia Italia Dallara 192

1991 - Scuderia Italia Dallara 191

1990 - Scuderia Italia Dallara 190

1989 - Scuderia Italia Dallara 189

1988 - Scuderia Italia Dallara 188

1988 - Scuderia Italia Dallara 3087 (a F3000 car entered in F1)

 

 

I thought they built a car for Frank Williams in the 60s as well.

 

[highdownforce]

I thought they built a car for Frank Williams in the 60s as well.

 

 

Hmmm... better dig this a little more:

 

1969-70 - Gian Paolo Dallara designed (under De Tomaso company) the De Tomaso 505/38 for Williams;

1970 - Williams partnership with De Tomaso was ended due to the death of Piers Courage and lack of results;

1972 - Gian Paolo Dallara funded Dallara Automobili in Parma;

1973 - Gian Paolo Dallara was bought into the team to redesign the rear suspension of the Iso-Marlboro IR during the season;

Edited by highdownforce, 14 February 2017 - 15:33.

[KWSN - DSM]

As a tangent to this.... it is often said how all F1 teams need to be based in the UK due the knowledge pool is leagues above any other country. Having been as big a manufacturer as Dallara have been the past 25 years, that does not entirely hold true.

 

[kevinracefan]

As a tangent to this.... it is often said how all F1 teams need to be based in the UK due the knowledge pool is leagues above any other country. Having been as big a manufacturer as Dallara have been the past 25 years, that does not entirely hold true.

 

I suspect that if Maranello could swallow a little ego they could well use some of dallara's help..

 

#that'llneverhappen

[Peter0Scandlyn]

As a tangent to this.... it is often said how all F1 teams need to be based in the UK due the knowledge pool is leagues above any other country. Having been as big a manufacturer as Dallara have been the past 25 years, that does not entirely hold true.

 

 

It does hold true..........How many F1 races have Dallara won 

[BRG]

It could be argued that Dallara have been successful at every formula they tried.  Except F1.

 

A bit like Lola.

[kevinracefan]

and reynard

[KWSN - DSM]

It does hold true..........How many F1 races have Dallara won 

 

That is not really the point which should not be hard to understand.

 

[BRG]

Your point was very clear.  You were saying that if only Dallara had been based in the UK, they would have been F1 winners.  

 

Just like Lola and Reynard.

[KWSN - DSM]

Your point was very clear.  You were saying that if only Dallara had been based in the UK, they would have been F1 winners.  

 

Just like Lola and Reynard.

 

I most assuredly did not make that point.

 

[Dan333SP]

That Wikipedia link only shows the 2003 R8 but not the R8r from 1999? Dallara certainly built that version run by Joest while the other '99 Audi was the coupe built in-house and a bit rushed. I thought the r8r was a different car to the later Le Mans winners?

 

The R8C was also outsourced, to RTN in the UK. Peter Elleray designed it and Audi Sport UK ran the cars.

Complete flop of a design, but it was a stunning car to look at. That whole '99 grid was one of the all-time greats in terms of variety, looks, and sounds.

[Dan333SP]

Anyone know how many total cars have been built by Lola?

 

I know they are now defunct, but they surely must be close to Dallara in total numbers? 

[HairyScalextrix]

The problem with the Lola's is that of the dozen T70's that were built sadly only 48 still exist!

Paraphrased but still...

[Peat]

Dallara supplied the monocoques for the Audi LMP's up until 2014.

[HairyScalextrix]

The R8C was also outsourced, to RTN in the UK. Peter Elleray designed it and Audi Sport UK ran the cars.
Complete flop of a design, but it was a stunning car to look at. That whole '99 grid was one of the all-time greats in terms of variety, looks, and sounds.

RTN built the Bentley's also didn't they?

[Pierce89]

RTN built the Bentley's also didn't they?

Most certainly. Everything but the power train.

[Peter0Scandlyn]

That is not really the point which should not be hard to understand.

 

 

Quite right, but somehow you missed it.

 

The THREAD is about Duh'lara over the wide range of chassis they produce.

You dumbed it down to F1  

[TennisUK]

Dallara also produce the carbon monocoque for the Alfa 4C road car from memory.

[KWSN - DSM]

Quite right, but somehow you missed it.

 

The THREAD is about Duh'lara over the wide range of chassis they produce.

You dumbed it down to F1  

 

No I did not, and on the absolute contrary I sing the praise of Dallara employee's.

 

[BRG]

March must have produced a pretty high number of cars over the 1970s and 80s.  F1, F2, F3, Indy, sports and so on.  Wasn't there an Indy 500 field that was all Marches one year?

[TennisUK]

Likewise Cooper and Lotus before them, too.