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#601 Barry Boor

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 13:09

What a pity they don't still use this layout.

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#602 Tim Murray

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 13:25

Did they not use this layout for the 1979 and 1980 Grands Prix?

#603 Duc-Man

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 13:26

Looking at the google maps satellite image, it seems like the whole track is still there.



#604 2F-001

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 14:20

Did they not use this layout for the 1979 and 1980 Grands Prix?

Yes, they did - after a year's break at the Rio circuit.

 

Some parts of the old layout are still used, but run in the opposite direction, I think.



#605 ozpata

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 19:35

apparently at the end of 78 the circuit received some updates and the track lost around 100m  and the exterior ring also got shortened just a bit, most of the changes were on the safety side and so some corners got pull in to generate a bit more space and run off 



#606 ozpata

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Posted 17 December 2018 - 11:54

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#607 Ray Bell

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Posted 17 December 2018 - 12:00

I found that to be a very interesting circuit...

 

A lot of fast curves, a few slow ones, mostly through industrial, seaside and shipping port areas, it shouldn't have been too hard to provide the necessary access during race weekends. Devoid of elevation changes, however.



#608 Barry Boor

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Posted 17 December 2018 - 12:32

As I can't fit Pescara into my lounge, I've just run my 1957 Pescara Grand Prix on this Bari circuit.

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Posted 02 January 2019 - 13:22

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#610 ozpata

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#613 ozpata

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#615 Doug Nye

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Posted 19 January 2019 - 19:30

These are truly wonderful aren't they?  I love the colour treatment and pallet used. Do you have a big enough piece of paper - or screen - Ozpata - for the old Mugello road circuit - or have you done it already? Absolutely outstanding concept in any case.

 

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#616 Hati

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Posted 19 January 2019 - 21:07

or have you done it already?

 

Look at first post, there is a list of tracks. And no, Mugello isn't on that list.



#617 Ray Bell

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Posted 19 January 2019 - 21:35

Clearly this circuit (Angouleme Ramparts) is on the side of a hill...

 

The disappearance of the railway into a tunnel under it all is a clue to that. These things are among the features of Oscar's great maps I find fascinating.

 

The real problem is that there are so many circuits and there's only one of him, he'll never get them all done to put them into a book!



#618 Barry Boor

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Posted 19 January 2019 - 22:04

Yes, Ray, Roger Clark and I have walked Angoulême.

By my reckoning we've had 204 circuits so far.....

#619 ozpata

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Posted 20 January 2019 - 16:34

These are truly wonderful aren't they?  I love the colour treatment and pallet used. Do you have a big enough piece of paper - or screen - Ozpata - for the old Mugello road circuit - or have you done it already? Absolutely outstanding concept in any case.

 

DCN

are you referring to the 66 km track?

 

is in the plans just as some others equally long and challenging, for one Dieppe, I started to look back at some tracks of the 20s and 30s which usually were long and also I am adding some SCCA tracks, Moffett, Offutt, Vero Beach, Lockbourne which are all air base circuits 

 

almost ready are, Brignoles, Grenoble, Sitges, Lwow, Bergstrom,Anfa, Gamston, Palermo, Meyrin just to name a few

 

I wish there was a way so I can dedicate all of my time to this 



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#620 Allen Brown

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Posted 20 January 2019 - 16:44

 

I wish there was a way so I can dedicate all of my time to this 

 

Patreon?



#621 ozpata

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Posted 20 January 2019 - 18:41

Thanks Allen for the tip, I am not very familiar with any of this kind of things but will give it a try 


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Posted 20 January 2019 - 20:29

are you referring to the 66 km track?

 

is in the plans just as some others equally long and challenging, for one Dieppe, I started to look back at some tracks of the 20s and 30s which usually were long and also I am adding some SCCA tracks, Moffett, Offutt, Vero Beach, Lockbourne which are all air base circuits 

 

almost ready are, Brignoles, Grenoble, Sitges, Lwow, Bergstrom,Anfa, Gamston, Palermo, Meyrin just to name a few

 

I wish there was a way so I can dedicate all of my time to this 

 

Any chance of doing a map of Hiéres? It's on the Mediterranean coast not far from Toulon. They had some races there, I think in the early 50s. A French friend took me around about half of what he thought was the old circuit a few years ago in his Clio, but he thought some of the old track had been built over. I searched on Google, but couldn't find a map.



#623 ozpata

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Posted 20 January 2019 - 20:45

Any chance of doing a map of Hiéres? It's on the Mediterranean coast not far from Toulon. They had some races there, I think in the early 50s. A French friend took me around about half of what he thought was the old circuit a few years ago in his Clio, but he thought some of the old track had been built over. I searched on Google, but couldn't find a map.

I don't have that particular name but there were lots of tracks around the early 50s that might be under different names, the trophy name or something else

 

as of today I have setup like well over 300 folders for tracks, some of those have 3 or 4 sub folders and I am already looking at f2 1931-36 period, SCCA from 52 to 53 right now, some sport car races, some tracks in australia and NZ, trying to keep some sort of order one will be from the 20s and 30s and the second one from the 50s, so basically I am adding quite a few tracks a week so I can start sending emails to try to find the information and data that I want

 

some areas change quite a lot in a short period of time, it seems like we are trying to get rid of any green spot of significance and probably lots of areas grow too fast too soon and that puts lots of demands on certain areas

 

if you know the name of some of the races, maybe some map can be located or at least a written description with a crude line drawing


Edited by ozpata, 20 January 2019 - 20:46.


#624 LittleChris

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Posted 20 January 2019 - 20:49

Still there in full Rob.

 

As ever start with Darren's site

 

http://www.silhouet....cks/hyeres.html

 

Then use Google maps - It's basically a triangle made up of the  D197 ( Start -finish on this road) then D42 followed by D559

 

Bit more here

 

http://forum-auto.ca...sujet378681.htm

 

 

 

Chris


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#625 Tim Murray

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Posted 20 January 2019 - 21:19

Hyères was discussed in this earlier thread:

12 Hours of Hyères

See also this and subsequent posts in the Former tracks near to you thread.

#626 Hati

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Posted 20 January 2019 - 22:05

I searched on Google, but couldn't find a map.

 

Motor racing circuits database is a (good) place to start. (Although sadly the "map of circuit location" link doesn't work.)

http://theracingline...racingcircuits/



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Posted 20 January 2019 - 23:58

Hyères was discussed in this earlier thread:

12 Hours of Hyères

See also this and subsequent posts in the Former tracks near to you thread.

 

That's great, thanks guys. I've done most of that lap in the passenger seat of an enthusiastically driven Clio.



#628 ozpata

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 11:17

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#629 Barry Boor

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 16:18

My first contact with Mr. Clark and Mr. Laws, soon after I joined TNF, was a two day exploration of the Dieppe circuit back in 2001.

#630 ozpata

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 14:38

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#631 ozpata

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#632 ozpata

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#633 kyle936

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Posted 02 February 2019 - 01:57

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Outline of the circuit hasn't changed much if at all but a lot less trees these days following WW2 ! 

 

There's a rather impressive monument ( on the inside of the corner before the start area ) to Louis Trintignant and Guy Bouriat who perished during the 1933 meeting - can be seen on Google streetview.

Here's the monument (c/w cyclists), for anyone who couldn't find it:

 

https://www.google.c...!7i13312!8i6656



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#637 Ray Bell

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 21:40

It looks like they were getting the lap speed up there...

Great job Oscar.

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#640 ozpata

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#642 Duc-Man

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 17:31

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I just had a look on google maps at Sebring how it is today. Those runways were gigantic. 75 meters wide maybe?



#643 ozpata

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 13:02

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#644 Ray Bell

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Posted 18 March 2019 - 20:49

I can hear the sound of tearing calico echoing from those buildings now...

Oscar, please keep them coming.

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 05:13

There is an article in the March/April edition of Vintage Motorsport by Martin Rudow on the old Shelton, Washington airport circuit.  We used to love attending races there back in the day.  I think most of the runways used for the track are still there.

 

Vince H.



#646 ozpata

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Posted 21 March 2019 - 13:13

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#647 ozpata

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#649 MCS

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Intriguing.  Looking forward to seeing the later circuit/s and configurations.



#650 2F-001

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Posted 29 March 2019 - 19:23

I just want to say how much I enjoy this ongoing thread. I love the cartographic artwork and appreciate the research behind it - and above all I appreciate it being shared here.
In a very selfish sense, I hope the work is never completed!
:-)

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