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#1 Mendel

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 13:42

This is quite weird in my opinion. I could very well understand this in the 80s and early 90s perhaps when computer systems were still new for broadcasting companies and such.

 

But this is 2017. We flew a human into the moon several decades ago using computers. We still routinely fly in space. We routinely track our position with computers and gps satellites very precisely. In F1 the computer systems and telemetry systems are very complex. Also of course we can easily measure the lap time of any driver with accuracy of fractions of 1000ths of seconds (so we can round up to nearest 1000th of a second). The technology behind F1 is at the top of the world. Everything costs millions and millions and even the most minute details are studied and improved very meticulously. Computers themselves of course have gone through decades and decades of advances in process technology and processing power.

 

 

And yet we can´t quite write all the lettes in driver´s names correctly.

 

 

The F1 broadcasters now have also what 40 years of experience and history in F1 broadcast. About half of which I believe must have had computers quite heavily involved so they have had a couple decades to improve that and have proper fonts for the job.

:drunk:


Edited by Mendel, 25 March 2017 - 13:44.


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#2 Marklar

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 13:49

Well, Mercedes PR department got Bottas name wrong when he was presented. When humans are involved mistakes are happening  :D



#3 muramasa

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 13:53

 

"Valteri Bottas"



#4 pdac

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 13:54

They should just be able to put in the car number and the name could be looked-up from the entry list

 

 

... Oh, I forgot, the car numbers are so small you cannot make them out.



#5 muramasa

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 14:02

speaking of driver name, they changed the 3 capital scheme for Verstappen from VES to VER and I'm struggling to adapt to it

there are so many things for VER, like version, verify, very, verizon etc

VST or VTP would be better



#6 Risil

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 14:10

That would be a bigger problem if there were any drivers called Version or Verizon or Vermillion or Verisimilitude.

I mean, many people think of ham when they see the code HAM but we all seem to manage.

#7 Mendel

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 14:11

Well... Now that I think about it I dont actually know this for any kind of certainty but the gut feeling I had was that the computer system used is simply incapable of displaying scandinavian and other special fonts. But I guess I can´t rule out human error. Could also be that the operator using it has just not found the way to make it display names correctly.

 

For example: It´s Kimi Räikkönen (or KIMI RÄIKKÖNEN as they seem to use all caps usually)

The 3 letter abbreviation should be RÄI

 

I would imagine some Spanish and German drivers would sometimes also have special fonts in their names that I might not even be aware of. Hülkenberg for example, I haven´t paid so much attention and I haven´t got an easy way to check right now but probably his name might also not be correctly shown.

 

Bottom line being, at this day and age the drivers should deserve enough respect to at least have their names displayed correctly.


Edited by Mendel, 25 March 2017 - 14:12.


#8 HP

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 14:13

They follow a certain set of rules when coming up with the name scheme.

 

The real question is why can't I use a pointer on my screen pointing on a drivers number or name scheme and I get the detailed info about a driver in a number of important languages? That's where the pinnacle of motorsport ought to be when presenting their product.


Edited by HP, 25 March 2017 - 14:14.


#9 muramasa

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 14:29

I sometimes see opinions that special font shud be used for Kimi etc but official feed is on English basis with English as international/common language for global audiences that's why.

with that logic that special font shud be used for west europeans for the "respect" reason, then Kvyat name should be indicated by Russian alphabet and Chinese/Japanese by chinese characters too for respect.



#10 Mendel

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 14:31

I don´t see why not, really. That would definitely bring some personality in. Also it would underline the internationality of the series.



#11 D28

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 14:37

I have complained a few times about this; the whole F1 info graphic is years out of date. The prime importance of a leader board is to show the first 6 or so runners, the rest is dressing. They try to cram too much info, (times to many decimals) with smallest print and thus have to chop of driver's names to 3 letters. Some of these names are  very long, and not exactly that well known. New or casual viewers cannot be expected to instantly recognize such abbreviations. There is no need for this; NASCAR manages very well with many more cars to track than F1, Indy racing also has readable graphics. Time for a revised graphic package, something Liberty should make a priority, if it is in their control.



#12 Mendel

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 14:49

Not so sure about that. 10 drivers get points so having top 10 displayed at the same time makes sense to me.



#13 D28

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 15:15

Not so sure about that. 10 drivers get points so having top 10 displayed at the same time makes sense to me.

Fine then, anything would be an improvement. As I mentioned NASCAR has a moving ribbon which tracks over 30 cars ,drivers, numbers, easily readable. It is not rocket science, don't know why F1 is so backward on this.



#14 muramasa

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 15:26

I don´t see why not, really. That would definitely bring some personality in. Also it would underline the internationality of the series.

Sure that's nice and cool for stuffs like detailed driver introduction on website and in broadcast and for whatever other materials, show both original and English alongside, also it's teams prerogative to use whatever language internally (for instance Ferrari use Italian for whatever things in garage etc), but not for in-race and post-race graphics because English is set as a common language for the feed which can be understood by people of this side of the earth and people of that side of the earth.



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Posted 25 March 2017 - 17:24

I laughed today when Palmer was shown on screen with Magnussen's name and details underneath. It was so 2016......



#16 Lotus53B

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 20:11

At least until last year, with the way the FIA display names we had the fun of BUT GRO PER...

 

I noticed this morning we had PER VER, but alas, no-one's name begins with T.

 

EDIT Or better yet, a driver who would be TED.


Edited by Lotus53B, 25 March 2017 - 20:11.


#17 Claudius

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 20:19

A first world problem...

Or rather no prolem at all, just something to bitch about for some reason.



#18 SenorSjon

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 20:23

We had But Her on a pit board once. :)

The Nascar/Indy ticker is horrible imo. Takes a lot of vertical space, while we have 16:9 tv nowadays. The MotoGP one is almlst excellent. It even has a white line dropping the order when people cross the finish line. And we see sectors from all drivers in the left tower.

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 21:40

And yet we can´t quite write all the lettes in driver´s names correctly.

And https://en.wikipedia...ki/Acute_accent still isn't an https://en.wikipedia...wiki/Apostrophe  ;)

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#20 Mendel

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 23:04

Touche. At the same time, after using computers all my life... I still don't don´t or don’t or don't know how to type an apostrophe on a Finnish keyboard and I cant´t see by looking at those which is the correct one :) (edit: there´s a same thing twice isn´t there.) Well this "´" is just easiest to type since it´s a single key press and I know where it is... but okay so it´s wrong then :) thanks for letting me know!

 

sigh...

 

I might actually have to get an American layout keyboard one of these days as I seem to be typing more in English than Finnish nowadays. And come on, even tilde key brings up a § on this keyboard, it´s actually a bit confusing sometimes in situations too where games´ default keys and such aren´t what and where they are supposed to be. And yes I´m still using the wrong key because I don´t know how to type the correct one and I don´t want to copy paste the correct one every time :D

 

Yes, I see the irony.

 

1) I´m typing wrong in a thread where I complain about typing wrong

2) If I get the American keyboard then I won´t be able to write Ä and Ö easily (indeed the letters missing from Räikkönen´s name in the broadcast)

 

But I digress...


Edited by Mendel, 31 March 2017 - 06:44.


#21 jcpower13

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 23:08

speaking of driver name, they changed the 3 capital scheme for Verstappen from VES to VER and I'm struggling to adapt to it

there are so many things for VER, like version, verify, very, verizon etc

VST or VTP would be better

 

Vergne would've been the best example. I keep thinking Vergne when I see VER now.



#22 maximilian

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 01:11

Vergne would've been the best example. I keep thinking Vergne when I see VER now.

 

If he were still in it, he should be JEV, no?  ;)



#23 StanBarrett2

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 01:37

What abbreviation should we use for nitpicking ?


Edited by StanBarrett2, 26 March 2017 - 01:37.