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#1 f1paul

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 19:04

It's usually not the best race of the year but we just don't know what to expect in F1. And remember, the 3 years that F1 have been here for it's been dominated by those silver cars who've been very dominant. (and totally not made F1 boring at all that we all want to cry or have a moan and hate the sport)  :stoned:

 

Anyway....we had a very exciting qualy today with the 2 red cars locking out the front row and the 2 silver cars struggling for pace.

 

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Crazy innit. That's Ferrari's first front row lock out since France 2008. Think about everything that's happened since then.

 

  • Massa cried
  • Button and Brawn cam back from the dead
  • South Korea and India have had Grand Prix  :drunk:
  • Bernie had been involved with more controversial stuff than this forum
  • We had a 4 hour race
  • 7 winners from 7
  • Hamilton has been through his menstrual cycle and out of the other end of it
  • Schumacher made a return and sadly suffered a skiing accident (KEEP FIGHTING MICHAEL)
  • Team order stuff (Fernando is faster than you, Multi 21 etc)
  • Contact between teammates
  • The unfortunate crash for Bianchi (Still in our hearts and always will be) R.I.P forever
  • An Ozzie had drank out of a shoe
  • Mercedes won a race
  • Mercedes won a race
  • Mercedes won a race
  • Mercedes won a race
  • Mercedes won a race
  • Mercedes won a race
  • Mercedes won a race
  • Mercedes won a race
  • Mercedes won a race
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  • Mercedes won a race
  • Mercedes won a race
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  • Mercedes won a race
  • Mercedes won a race
  • Mercedes won a race
  • And a load of other stuff

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Away from F1 in the last 10 years and onto the present. It's a real turning point for the season and Ferrari have shown that they can beat Mercedes in qualy as well as the race. (I'll leave that for you guys to talk about in more depth)

 

Qualy result

1. Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari, 1:33.194

2. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, +0.059

3. Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes. +0.095

4. Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes, +0.573

5. Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull, +1.711

6. Felipe Massa, Williams, +1.916

7. Max Verstappen, Red Bull, +1.967

8. Nico Hulkenberg, Renault,+2.091

9. Sergio Perez, Force India, +2.143

10. Esteban Ocon, Force India, +2.236

Qualifying Two
11.Carlos Sainz, Toro Rosso, 1:35.948

12. Lance Stroll, Williams, 1:35.964

13. Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso, 1:35.968

14. Kevin Magnussen, Haas, 1:36.017

15. Fernando Alonso, McLaren, 1:36.660

Qualifying Three

16. Jolyon Palmer, Renault, 1:36.462

17. Stoffel Vandoorne, McLaren, 1:37.070

18. Pascal Wehrlein, Sauber, 1:37.332

19. Marcus Ericsson, Sauber, 1:37.507

20. Romain Grosjean, Haas, 1:37.620

 

Note - Sainz penalised three grid places for causing a collision at the previous round. Vandoorne penalised 15 places for use of additional power unit elements

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Strategy?

Should be a 1 stop but an early SC or VSC could prompt a 2 stopper. 

 

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I don't think the soft will be used but I'm no tyre guy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

El circuito (Oh no wait that's for 2 weeks time)

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There will be no rain at all in the race and if it does rain then I won't come on this forum ever again (some of you will be desperately hoping that it rains now)  :lol: The temps will be similar to qualy (mid 20s) so it's gonna be a lovely day for everyone at the circuit.

 

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The big question has to be...will we see Putin?

 

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Onto some serious stuff. Mercedes will have to do something very impressive to win tomorrow and if they do, then it will have to be at the start or through strategy. It's a long run to T2 and the first lap should get pretty crazy. Ferrari have the upper hand but we'll see what happens because it can all go wrong in a flash. At least for Vettel, Kvyat shouldn't be anywhere near him. Hopefully, it will be a good race like all of the races so far have been so far IMO and the battle will continue to rage on!

 

Lights out are at just past 3pm local time. That's some time in the morning, evening, night, afternoon for you guys in the world.  :wave:


Edited by f1paul, 29 April 2017 - 19:05.


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#2 Ricardo F1

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 19:05

Lights out start to finish the top four will remain exactly the same.  Bonus points given if you stay awake to the first pitstops.



#3 jonpollak

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 19:06

Добро пожаловать!

 

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#4 f1paul

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 19:07

That's the spirit, lets write this race off already. NOBODY watch!!!   ;)


Edited by f1paul, 29 April 2017 - 19:07.


#5 f1paul

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 19:07

Добро пожаловать!

 

Jp

Hola.



#6 TomNokoe

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 19:08

1. Vettel
2. Hamilton
3. Kimi
4. Bottas

See you at the flag

#7 jonpollak

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 19:08

Написать

 

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#8 Marklar

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 19:09

 

  • Bernie had been involved with more controversial stuff than this forum

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#9 f1paul

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 19:09

I've made my race OP better than the previous ones (hopefully), I hope you enjoy the endless amounts of writing that I've put on!   ;)



#10 Nonesuch

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 19:10

Bring it on! Here's hoping it'll be a compelling race - with Ferrari winning, of course. :p
 
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#11 jonpollak

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 19:10

Думаешь, я проснусь в 4:30 утра ..?

Jp



#12 f1paul

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 19:10

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#13 f1paul

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 19:12

Думаешь, я проснусь в 4:30 утра ..?

Jp

Yeah you will. By the way you better stop posting in Russian (I don't mind it though but the mods might not) but you seem pretty crazy so do what you want Jp and we'll see where it takes you. 



#14 Lotus53B

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 19:13

Awesome OP.

Now we just need the race to be of the same quality.



#15 Claudiu

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 19:14

Top speeds in qualifying:

 

Kimi Raikkonen: 331.0 km/h
Lewis Hamilton: 330.4 km/h
Valtteri Bottas: 329.9 km/h
Sebastian Vettel: 326.1 km/h
 
So Vettel is caring a bit more downforce so he will be vulnerable at the start!


#16 Marklar

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 19:15

I've made my race OP better than the previous ones (hopefully), I hope you enjoy the endless amounts of writing that I've put on!   ;)

It's fine. Every effort to do a OP is much appreciated. Thank you.

 

Lights out start to finish the top four will remain exactly the same.  Bonus points given if you stay awake to the first pitstops.

I have the choice between the race and a children's birthday party. Tough one.



#17 jonpollak

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 19:17

you better stop posting in Russian ....

Pochey Moo?

 

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#18 f1paul

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 19:30

Pochey Moo?

 

Jp

I enjoy it when people post in different languages people BTW. But what on earth does that post mean????



#19 f1paul

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 19:33

It's fine. Every effort to do a OP is much appreciated. Thank you.

 

I have the choice between the race and a children's birthday party. Tough one.

When you miss races, are the ones you miss good ones? If yes, then birthday, if not then watch the race. Simple. :)



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#20 Marklar

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 19:39

When you miss races, are the ones you miss good ones? If yes, then birthday, if not then watch the race. Simple. :)

Monaco 2004, Japan 2005, Melbourne 2007, Monza 2008, Hungary 2011, Silverstone 2013, Singapore 2013, Melbourne 2014, Malaysia 2014, Bahrain 2014, Monza 2015, Shanghai 2017.

It's a bit mixed, but I tend to miss the good ones.

#21 f1paul

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 19:45

Monaco 2004, Japan 2005, Melbourne 2007, Monza 2008, Hungary 2011, Silverstone 2013, Singapore 2013, Melbourne 2014, Malaysia 2014, Bahrain 2014, Monza 2015, Shanghai 2017.

It's a bit mixed, but I tend to miss the good ones.

You know, I just remembered that birthday parties are better than F1. :)



#22 cpbell

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 19:47

Japan 2005,,,

Oh dear... :blush: :rotfl: :p



#23 Maustinsj

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 20:24

I enjoy it when people post in different languages people BTW. But what on earth does that post mean????


Why?

#24 jonpollak

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 22:27

в точку Thank you Maustinsj.

#25 ArrowsLivery

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 23:00

My predictions:

 

Hamilton gets a crappy start ala 2016, and drops behind the Red Bull who holds him up the entire first stint.

Bottas keeps his 3rd at the start but can't make an impression on the Ferraris and slowly but surely drops away from them.

Kimi can't or won't trouble Vettel at all and they cruise around in formation, turning down their engines after the pitstops.

Eventually Hamilton gets past Ricciardo but he's already too far behind Bottas to trouble him and drops more points in the WDC fight. 

Further down the field, the Hulk and Massa have a battle but the Williams is faster and gets ahead eventually. 

Alonso complains about the power while somehow running in the points early on before a McLaren part fails again and costs them points. 



#26 jjcale

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 23:02

That's the spirit, lets write this race off already. NOBODY watch!!!   ;)

 

I see that someone put a bit of effort into an OP 

 

 ;)



#27 jjcale

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 23:05

Думаешь, я проснусь в 4:30 утра ..?

Jp

 



#28 Jordan44

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 23:08

My predictions:

 

Hamilton gets a crappy start ala 2016, and drops behind the Red Bull who holds him up the entire first stint.

Bottas keeps his 3rd at the start but can't make an impression on the Ferraris and slowly but surely drops away from them.

Kimi can't or won't trouble Vettel at all and they cruise around in formation, turning down their engines after the pitstops.

Eventually Hamilton gets past Ricciardo but he's already too far behind Bottas to trouble him and drops more points in the WDC fight. 

Further down the field, the Hulk and Massa have a battle but the Williams is faster and gets ahead eventually. 

Alonso complains about the power while somehow running in the points early on before a McLaren part fails again and costs them points. 

 

Having excellent starts is the only thing going for Merc at the minute. I hope not.



#29 Neno

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 23:24

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#30 jonpollak

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Posted 29 April 2017 - 23:40

 


You're about as much fun as your posts. Just ignore me... It'll save you time.

#31 Bleu

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 02:11

Based on what has happened there in past three years it's easy to say that Sochi has one of the most dramatic first braking zones.

 

(Can not call it turn 1 since turn 1 is the fast kink)

 

2014 - Rosberg with huge lock-up, forcing him top pit on lap 1 (was able to do the rest without pit stop and recovered to 2nd anyway)

2015 - Hulk spun and Ericsson was caught there

2016 - Chaos caused by Kvyat (and more by Guti in the back)



#32 TazioRaikkonen

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 03:02

Japan 2005

I hope you have watched this race despite missing live broadcast.


Edited by TazioRaikkonen, 30 April 2017 - 03:03.


#33 PayasYouRace

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 03:10

https://www.youtube....h?v=HbvYeLxMKN8


Essentially what the mod team was discussing in private.

#34 Balthazar

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 03:52

Добро пожаловать!

 

Jp

 

Я просто счастлив быть здесь, Боб.

 

 

My predictions:

 

Hamilton gets a crappy start ala 2016, and drops behind the Red Bull who holds him up the entire first stint.

Bottas keeps his 3rd at the start but can't make an impression on the Ferraris and slowly but surely drops away from them.

Kimi can't or won't trouble Vettel at all and they cruise around in formation, turning down their engines after the pitstops.

Eventually Hamilton gets past Ricciardo but he's already too far behind Bottas to trouble him and drops more points in the WDC fight. 

Further down the field, the Hulk and Massa have a battle but the Williams is faster and gets ahead eventually. 

Alonso complains about the power while somehow running in the points early on before a McLaren part fails again and costs them points. 

 

Grosjean pisses and moans on the team blower.

 

(hopefully he will be happier in the Red Car next year)

 

ALLEZ ROMAIN !


Edited by Balthazar, 30 April 2017 - 03:56.


#35 Lights

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 05:22

Based on what has happened there in past three years it's easy to say that Sochi has one of the most dramatic first braking zones.

 

(Can not call it turn 1 since turn 1 is the fast kink)

 

2014 - Rosberg with huge lock-up, forcing him top pit on lap 1 (was able to do the rest without pit stop and recovered to 2nd anyway)

2015 - Hulk spun and Ericsson was caught there

2016 - Chaos caused by Kvyat (and more by Guti in the back)

 

2017 - Alonso takes the lead from P15. Honda PU then blows up in Turn 4. Boring race follows.



#36 CoolBreeze

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 05:49

Sincerely hope for a ferrari 1-2



#37 PilotPlant91

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 05:55

Its a one stopper.....but we can always pin hope on palmer or stoffel to bring up the SC and mix things up



#38 TazioRaikkonen

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 06:01

[.video=youtube;G2jYQRZ4zZE]https:/[/video.]

 

 

Intro of that video. That has got to be Kimi's soundtrack tomorrow. He is going to give it a go for sure.

 

No games. No fear. No excuses.

 

Kimi's first win coming up since Melbourne 2013! Low downforce setup will help!


Edited by TazioRaikkonen, 30 April 2017 - 06:26.


#39 RainyAfterlifeDaylight

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 06:13

It is torpedo time  :wave:

 

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 06:57

I've made my race OP better than the previous ones (hopefully), I hope you enjoy the endless amounts of writing that I've put on!  ;)

You only forgot the domination of the Bulls and the byes from BBC, I like it!

#41 w1Y

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 07:23

My predictions:

Hamilton gets a crappy start ala 2016, and drops behind the Red Bull who holds him up the entire first stint.
Bottas keeps his 3rd at the start but can't make an impression on the Ferraris and slowly but surely drops away from them.
Kimi can't or won't trouble Vettel at all and they cruise around in formation, turning down their engines after the pitstops.
Eventually Hamilton gets past Ricciardo but he's already too far behind Bottas to trouble him and drops more points in the WDC fight.
Further down the field, the Hulk and Massa have a battle but the Williams is faster and gets ahead eventually.
Alonso complains about the power while somehow running in the points early on before a McLaren part fails again and costs them points.


This is exactly what I was thinking too. Of course my prediction are usually wrong but I do see Hamilton having a difficult day.

#42 Lights

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 07:30

 

Top speeds in qualifying:

 

Kimi Raikkonen: 331.0 km/h
Lewis Hamilton: 330.4 km/h
Valtteri Bottas: 329.9 km/h
Sebastian Vettel: 326.1 km/h
 
So Vettel is caring a bit more downforce so he will be vulnerable at the start!

 

 

That's not how that works... more downforce can actually help with the initial launch of the grid.

 

Vettel hasn't had the best of starts so far this year (last year's they were a lot better) so in that sense the start can get interesting if he again doesn't get away well.



#43 Niceone

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 07:36

Kimi will be 5th at best  after first lap and his race is ruined.



#44 messy

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 07:37

I really, really want Kimi to beat Vettel into turn one. That's how this is going to get really interesting, especially if Bottas then splits the Ferrari's. for the last three years I've constantly (despite fully acknowledging his weakness) been willing Raikkonen to win another race, and this today seems like a real chance of that.

#45 Lights

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 07:42

I really, really want Kimi to beat Vettel into turn one. That's how this is going to get really interesting, especially if Bottas then splits the Ferrari's. for the last three years I've constantly (despite fully acknowledging his weakness) been willing Raikkonen to win another race, and this today seems like a real chance of that.

 

It says something doesn't it, that the only way you realistically see Kimi winning is by Vettel losing several places at the start.



#46 GoldenColt

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 07:42

This could be a contender for most boring race of the season. Let's hope I'm wrong.



#47 Lights

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 07:44

This could be a contender for most boring race of the season. Let's hope I'm wrong.

 

Sadly Hamilton didn't simply mess up qualifying, it really looks like he's not happy with his car here. Otherwise one could at least look forward to him attacking.


Edited by Lights, 30 April 2017 - 07:44.


#48 skidmarkz

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 08:08

Let the man / woman post about Kimi if he wants



#49 Kulturen

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 08:21

All the predictions for a boring race assume no turn 2 mayhem at the start. Chances of safety car are also high.



#50 jonpollak

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Posted 30 April 2017 - 09:15

Я просто счастлив быть здесь, Боб.

 

 

 

Grosjean pisses and moans on the team blower.

 

(hopefully he will be happier in the Red Car next year)

 

ALLEZ ROMAIN !

Me too Bobby..

Jp