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#201 Sash1

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Posted 09 June 2022 - 14:08

I can understand people with more money than taste go to a Starbucks, but McDonalds???  :confused:

 

The coffee at McD is pretty good actually.



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#202 BRG

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Posted 09 June 2022 - 15:01

Starbucks coffee is not coffee. Period.

If you read up the history of coffee in the USA, you find that there was basically Folgers and Maxwell House in a race to the bottom, using horrible robusta coffee to keep prices down.  Starbucks started as a coffee roaster and found there was an opening in the market for better coffee, into which they marched.  And the rest is history. 

 

In the UK, it was Starbucks that prompted the growth of a whole coffee house sector that has become part of our culture.  Personally, I prefer Costa, but it is all a matter of taste (or lack of it).



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Posted 09 June 2022 - 16:13

I'm pretty sure they could make a great circuit on the airport....

 

I had a design somewhere which used the airport and the stadium. It would even be more practical once the tunnel under the runway is finished so as not to close off all access to the country.



#204 pdac

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Posted 09 June 2022 - 17:00

If you read up the history of coffee in the USA, you find that there was basically Folgers and Maxwell House in a race to the bottom, using horrible robusta coffee to keep prices down.  Starbucks started as a coffee roaster and found there was an opening in the market for better coffee, into which they marched.  And the rest is history. 

 

In the UK, it was Starbucks that prompted the growth of a whole coffee house sector that has become part of our culture.  Personally, I prefer Costa, but it is all a matter of taste (or lack of it).

 

Personally, I prefer tea. But you can't get a decent tea anymore unless you can find a greasy spoon cafe.



#205 FirstnameLastname

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Posted 09 June 2022 - 23:03

Personally, I prefer tea. But you can't get a decent tea anymore unless you can find a greasy spoon cafe.

Dave Gorman does a great bit about how you used to be able to get a decent (and cheap) cup of tea… but then all these coffee places popped up and a cup of tea became both shite AND expensive

Coffee ruined tea.


Edited by FirstnameLastname, 09 June 2022 - 23:04.


#206 Beri

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Posted 10 June 2022 - 09:37

If you read up the history of coffee in the USA, you find that there was basically Folgers and Maxwell House in a race to the bottom, using horrible robusta coffee to keep prices down.  Starbucks started as a coffee roaster and found there was an opening in the market for better coffee, into which they marched.  And the rest is history. 

 

In the UK, it was Starbucks that prompted the growth of a whole coffee house sector that has become part of our culture.  Personally, I prefer Costa, but it is all a matter of taste (or lack of it).

 

To begin with; coffee should be drunk without milk and sugar. Second; all the sugary drinks, that Starbucks sell, are not coffee. And the "coffee" that Starbucks does sell, is just Espresso watered down. Thats not coffee. Period. I am quite certain that coffee lover Bottas has avoided Starbucks at Monaco.



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Posted 10 June 2022 - 11:10

Last time I was in a Starbucks, they were definitely selling coffee without milk if you wanted it.  And don't you always have to add sugar yourself, or not if you prefer (which I do).  Not sure what 'espresso watered down' means?  As far as I can see, all of their coffee drinks (and everybody else's) are based around one or more shots of coffee, which is all that an espresso is. 

 

I guess you just don't like Starbucks?  That's OK, I generally avoid them too, but you don't need to concoct spurious reasons for not liking them.  Just so say.


Edited by BRG, 10 June 2022 - 11:10.