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#1 HistoryFan

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 10:34

Nigel Mansell competed with his sons Greg and Leo Mansell in 2010.

Mario Andretti drove with his son Michael and his nephew John in 1988.

 

Are there more family-only-driver-line-ups (with 3 drivers in the car)?



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#2 7MGTEsup

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 12:38

Didn't the Rodriguez brothers share a car in the 60's? (I know there were only 2 of them driving) but I should imagine you have the lot there with Mansell and Andretti.



#3 HistoryFan

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 13:08

yes they compete together in 1959, 1961 and 1963.

 

In 1959 Pedro was 19, Ricardo just 17 - I think that was the youngest driver-line-up ever in Le Mans. Matt McMurray was the youngest starter ever in 2014 with 16 years.

I think in 2017 we will have the oldest line-up ever with Lammers (61), Van Eerd (50) and Barrichello (45) driving a Dallara-Gibson LMP2.



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Posted 08 June 2017 - 13:35

I would like to see the Taylors dominate the LMP2 class. I think they are at LM this year but not in the same team.

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 13:35

yes and just 2, not 3

 

I would like to see that Team with Jordan Taylor in IndyCar,


Edited by HistoryFan, 08 June 2017 - 13:36.


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Posted 08 June 2017 - 13:58

Martin and Alex Brundle ?

#7 Amphicar

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 15:09

Louis Rosier and his son Jean-Louis Rosier won Le Mans in 1950 - mind you, Rosier pere drove all but two laps!



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Posted 08 June 2017 - 16:18

Didn't Derek and Justin Bell share a car?



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Posted 08 June 2017 - 16:43

Martin and Alex Brundle ?


They had a third non-family driver in their team though, which rules them out as an answer to the OP's question.

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 17:04

Darn... I suck at this.

#11 D28

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 17:34

Louis Rosier and his son Jean-Louis Rosier won Le Mans in 1950 - mind you, Rosier pere drove all but two laps!

Right and that would make him the winner covering the most time, just easing out Luigi Chinetti from the previous year.

Anyone know if this is in fact the record?



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Posted 08 June 2017 - 17:53

yes they compete together in 1959, 1961 and 1963.

 

In 1959 Pedro was 19, Ricardo just 17 - I think that was the youngest driver-line-up ever in Le Mans. Matt McMurray was the youngest starter ever in 2014 with 16 years.

I think in 2017 we will have the oldest line-up ever with Lammers (61), Van Eerd (50) and Barrichello (45) driving a Dallara-Gibson LMP2.

The previous year, 58 the organizers turned down a Brothers entry because Ricardo was too young at 16. Pedro drove with Jose Behra.



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Posted 08 June 2017 - 18:52

Right and that would make him the winner covering the most time, just easing out Luigi Chinetti from the previous year.

Anyone know if this is in fact the record?

Apparently it is: https://en.wikipedia..._Driver_records - and of course that is now a record that can't be beaten 



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Posted 09 June 2017 - 11:28

Probably a separate topic but it's always fascinated me how the likes of Rosier, Chinetti (Levegh in '52 as well?) could drive that amount of time. In recent years I've always watched the full race live and I always feel wrecked by the end and that's just sat on my backside watching the thing, let alone doing something physically exerting virtually non-stop without sleep, respect to them.



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Posted 09 June 2017 - 14:20

Probably a separate topic but it's always fascinated me how the likes of Rosier, Chinetti (Levegh in '52 as well?) could drive that amount of time. In recent years I've always watched the full race live and I always feel wrecked by the end and that's just sat on my backside watching the thing, let alone doing something physically exerting virtually non-stop without sleep, respect to them.

This piece about Stirling Moss's 1955 Mille Miglia win may give you an idea how they did it! http://www.scotsman....g-moss-1-487854



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Posted 09 June 2017 - 15:13

Probably a separate topic but it's always fascinated me how the likes of Rosier, Chinetti (Levegh in '52 as well?) could drive that amount of time. In recent years I've always watched the full race live and I always feel wrecked by the end and that's just sat on my backside watching the thing, let alone doing something physically exerting virtually non-stop without sleep, respect to them.

Right, hard to believe possible these days; one factor must be that the races weren't outright sprints as they are today. Still 24 hours of even brisk motoring among other cars is very impressive.

Luigi Chinetti in 1949 after winning Le Mans won the 24 hours of Spa about 2 weeks later in a similar (maybe same Ferrari) with Jean Lucas. Now that is an impressive feat of endurance, even if Lucas drove his share of laps.  



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Posted 09 June 2017 - 15:53

yes and just 2, not 3

 

I would like to see that Team with Jordan Taylor in IndyCar,

 

Their dad was a racer as well, so they could theoretically run an all family car. I think the dad has fully retired though.

 

Probably a separate topic but it's always fascinated me how the likes of Rosier, Chinetti (Levegh in '52 as well?) could drive that amount of time. In recent years I've always watched the full race live and I always feel wrecked by the end and that's just sat on my backside watching the thing, let alone doing something physically exerting virtually non-stop without sleep, respect to them.

 

I agree that it was probably very exhausting but the track was a lot simpler back then. 



#18 HistoryFan

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 19:57

so we really just have 2 only-family-line-ups with 3 drivers?



#19 TJJohansen

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 18:59

Wayne Taylor came out of retirement in 2014 to drive with both his sons in the Rolex 24hrs at Daytona. So, maybe that could happen again...

 

T J



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Posted 13 June 2017 - 09:25

3 portuguese brothers competed in 1997 (3rd in GT2 - Porsche 911) and 1999 (4th in GTS - Chrysler Viper): Manuel, Pedro and Tomaz Mello Breyner.



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Posted 13 June 2017 - 10:16

Probably a separate topic but it's always fascinated me how the likes of Rosier, Chinetti (Levegh in '52 as well?) could drive that amount of time. In recent years I've always watched the full race live and I always feel wrecked by the end and that's just sat on my backside watching the thing, let alone doing something physically exerting virtually non-stop without sleep, respect to them.

 

I should imagine amphetamines were involved.



#22 HistoryFan

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 10:44

3 portuguese brothers competed in 1997 (3rd in GT2 - Porsche 911) and 1999 (4th in GTS - Chrysler Viper): Manuel, Pedro and Tomaz Mello Breyner.

nice, thanks!