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How suddenly Haas is so fast in Austria?


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#1 Kodza

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 11:09

Maybe yes, they are fast, but recent  races shows no such speed as Haas has in Austria.

It looks to me this comes from more boost from Ferrari engines as fight against Mercedes.

Or I am wrong?


Edited by Kodza, 11 July 2017 - 11:10.


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#2 f1paul

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 11:10

How Haas this happened????

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm leaving already!  :p



#3 Marklar

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 11:12

Haas is occasionally able to match FI and Williams. Plus on this occasion both FI and in particular Williams struggled more than usual, Combined with a engine upgrade they were outright 4th quickest in Spielberg. It's to be seen if this will keep going though.



#4 balmybaldwin

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 11:13

I suspect it's about lucking into the tyre sweet spot



#5 sopa

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 11:16

Haas was about "best of the rest" in Australia too. On some circuits they go very well, but they don't have consistency to be that good everywhere.



#6 FLB

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 11:22

Originally posted by balmybaldwin:

 

 

I suspect it's about lucking into the tyre sweet spot

 

I think so as well. That was the case at Bahrain in 2016.



#7 steferrari

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 11:22

They had new engines but according to Sky Sport F1 Italy not the updated ones yet... don't know if this is correct, but they stated this multiple times during the weekend.



#8 kevinracefan

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 12:19

getting the braking figured out



#9 RedBaron

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 12:25

How Haas this happened????



I'm leaving already! :p


Ok, that's it. You're banned from creating any more race threads Paul.

#10 noikeee

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 12:59

How Haas this happened????

 

It's Haastonishing!



#11 CountDooku

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 13:06

It's Haastonishing!

 

Mods should refrain from cracking jokes, no aptitude for it.  :p



#12 RedBaron

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 13:06

It's Haastonishing!

 

Not another one.

 

Hand in your RC Forum Host badge and gun, noikeee. 


Edited by RedBaron, 11 July 2017 - 13:06.


#13 LeClerc

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 13:08

Surely they will make Haastory!

#14 LuckyStrike1

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 14:41

Haas haas a recent history of being a bit up and down. The midfield battle haas developed into a very fluctuating battle. 



#15 Shepherd

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 14:46

Maybe it has to do with their drivers. Grosjean seem to be either really on it, or struggling with his brakes. Magnussen has eternally bad luck, especially in qualifyings.



#16 tokengator82

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 14:46

i think you need a larger sample size than just one race



#17 Laster

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 15:15

Haas does this quite a lot. They'll drift in the midfield without making any inpression at all, and suddenly for one race they'll spark into life and be a cut above, before mysteriously slipping back into anonymity. Progress for them will be performing more consistently.

#18 maximilian

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 16:35


I'm leaving already!  :p

 

Haasta la vista, baby. :wave:



#19 Peat

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 16:43

It's a bogey track. In 1997, Prost were quick. A couple of years ago, Williams locked out the front row.

Normal service will resume at Silverstone.

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#20 quickndirty

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 17:11

As far as I understand, they have limited setup capabilities. For instance, in Baku, they didn't have a setup specifically developed for that track. That may also explain their varying performance from one track to the other.

 

Another interesting thing I noticed is that in Baku, Williams and FI (the Mercedes powered midfield cars) were very fast whereas the rest of the midfield had a hard time keeping up. In Austria, Williams and FI didn't seem to have the same advantage.


Edited by quickndirty, 11 July 2017 - 19:45.


#21 f1paul

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 19:18

Ok, that's it. You're banned from creating any more race threads Paul.

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 ;)


Edited by f1paul, 11 July 2017 - 19:18.


#22 Tony Mandara

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 19:29

Enough with the awful puns, guys.

You're just making Haases of yourselves


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#23 loki

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 19:30

They colluded with the Russians...



#24 f1paul

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 19:37

This Haas to stop immediately! 



#25 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 19:40

Short straights, not a lot of high down force corners, improved Ferrari engine, a 'drivers track' Groejean and Magnussen are both better drivers than what appear, and are in general given credit for.

 

:cool:



#26 Nonesuch

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 19:55

Progress for them will be performing more consistently.

 
Right, it's still a new team relatively speaking. Perhaps the car has more potential than they can normally get out of it - and when things end up going their way they seem to jump forward a bit.
 
Of course Williams also had a dismal early weekend (but decent race) making the midfield a bit smaller than it would otherwise be.



#27 ANF

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 21:06

They had new engines but according to Sky Sport F1 Italy not the updated ones yet... don't know if this is correct, but they stated this multiple times during the weekend.

I don't think an engine upgrade would make much difference in Austria anyway. Not as much as when they were normally Haaspirated.

#28 Fatgadget

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 21:48

Shirley this thread Hass got to be in the running for whatever accolades the- Lewis avoids Croydon and Where is Ross Brown threads mustered! :D



#29 HP

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Posted 11 July 2017 - 22:05

At Austria the Force been with them haas.