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The Honda Indy 200 @ Mid-Ohio: official thread


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Poll: Who's gonna win the championship then (28 member(s) have cast votes)

5 races, 5 options:

  1. Scott Dixon (18 votes [64.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 64.29%

  2. Helio Castroneves (3 votes [10.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.71%

  3. Simon Pagenaud (4 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  4. Josef Newgarden (2 votes [7.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.14%

  5. Will Power (1 votes [3.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.57%

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#1 Risil

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 20:08

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The Continuing Story of Indycar Bill Round 13 of 17: The Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course

Track length: 2.25 miles
Race length: 90 laps
Number of turns: 13
Previous winner: Simon Pagenaud (Penske-Chevy)

A scant two weeks after the Indycars unconvened from Exhibition Place, Toronto, they have arrived at the somewhat quaintly-titled Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course, that fancy and beloved jewel of the region of America’s seventeenth state called Mid-Ohio, even though the track is only 90 miles from the city of Cleveland which is about as far from the mid of Ohio as you can get. The track winds and wends about the rolling hills in a manner conducive to cars following each other commentators saying things like “Team Penske has four bullets in the chamber”, “the TV really flattens out the elevation change” and “at this phase of the race they’re all driving to a fuel number”.
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Scarily, this season has five races left to run, with two ovals and two all-natural road courses. Mid-Ohio is the second-slowest of these, or the second-fastest if you paint in the colours of optimism. According to Indycar’s scoring system whose enormous points numbers are reminiscent of nothing so much as the relentless expansion and inevitable heat death of the universe, Scott Dixon is in pole position with three of the four Penske drivers less than one victory in arrears. Will Power and Hometown Hellion Graham Rahal are more than a victory behind, or to translate that into Sonoma, less than a victory behind.

Last year, Simon Pagenaud won the race after he and Will Power stole the lead from Mikhail Aleshin in the pits, who had stolen the lead from… someone… because of an unexpected… thing. If you are anything like me your mind only has room for one racing injustice at a time and that is currently filled by transformation of the previous race by a shot from the closed-pitlane Tony Kanaan atomic randomizing gun. What am I trying to say? I’m trying to say that I’m already in over my head and aside from that Team Penske has four bullets in the chamber, drivers will drive to a fuel number and the TV will flatten out the elevation change, I can’t tell you a thing about what will happen on Sunday.

Oh yeah, I know the schedule too but only because I looked it up:

Friday July 28th
8.25-9.10: Indy Lights practice
10.00-10.45: Indycar practice 1
12.30-1.15: USF2000 race 1
1.30-2.00: Indy Lights qualifying 1
2.15-3.00: Indycar practice 2
3.35-4.20: Pro Mazda Race 1

Saturday July 29th
9.10-9.40: Indy Lights qualifying 2
9.55-10.40: Indycar practice 3
10.55-11.55: Pirelli World Challenge GTS race 1
12.10-12.50: USF2000 race 2
1.05-1.50: Pro Mazda race 2
2.05-3.20: Indycar qualifying
3.35-4.30: Indy Lights race 1
4.45-5.55: Pirelli World Challenge GT-GTA-GT Cup race 1

Sunday July 30th
9.05-10.05: Pirelli World Challenge GTS race 2
10.20-11.00: Pro Mazda race 3
11.15-11.45: Indycar warm-up
12.00-1.05: Pirelli World Challenge GT-GTA-GT Cup race 2
1.20-2.25: Indy Lights race 2
3.40: Indycar race GO
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Let’s go! Helio! Indycar!



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#2 SKL

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 20:29

2018 can't come soon enough-  after seeing the new cars test at Indy, it hurts the eyes to look at the present cars again... 

 

Sure hope the upcoming IA Speedway test is open to the public...



#3 king_crud

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 20:57

I like that this circuit is still in the calendar after all these years as it's a good looking circuit on TV, but the racing is generally rubbish. If we're going to have a race in that region then bring back Cleveland airport racing

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 21:19

I like that this circuit is still in the calendar after all these years as it's a good looking circuit on TV, but the racing is generally rubbish. If we're going to have a race in that region then bring back Cleveland airport racing

 

It's one of the best attended venues on the schedule with a great support card, and it's a purpose built course. Are you out of your mind? I do not miss guys crashing into each other because they couldn't navigate a 30 foot wide runaway with 90 degree corners. If you like Cleveland so much, go pay for it yourself and persuade the FAA to allow racing on a public airport. It's a guaranteed money loser.


Edited by Prost1997T, 27 July 2017 - 21:21.


#5 Risil

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 21:40

If you like Cleveland so much why don't you just GET A JOB AT THE AIRPORT AND HOLD YOUR OWN RACE WITH THE DAMN BAGGAGE TRUCKS

#6 E1pix

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 23:36

One who's been to Mid-Ohio has just dropped their popcorn.

#7 maximilian

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 02:00

Whose bright idea was it anyways to have 4 races 2 weekends ago (IndyCar, FEx2 and F1) :love: , then a weekend with NOTHING :cry: , and then another weekend with the same combo of 4 races again??  :love:  :rolleyes:



#8 rghojai

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 05:11

I had some frozen, microwaved Steak 'n Shake sandwiches this week. They were bad. I hope Rahal has a miserable weekend.



#9 ArrowsLivery

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 05:18

Scarily, this season has five races left to run, with two ovals and two all-natural road courses. Mid-Ohio is the second-slowest of these, or the second-fastest if you paint in the colours of optimism.

 

So what is the last track? 

 

I like that this circuit is still in the calendar after all these years as it's a good looking circuit on TV, but the racing is generally rubbish. If we're going to have a race in that region then bring back Cleveland airport racing

 

:mad:  Take that back.



#10 king_crud

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 06:24

It's one of the best attended venues on the schedule with a great support card, and it's a purpose built course. Are you out of your mind? I do not miss guys crashing into each other because they couldn't navigate a 30 foot wide runaway with 90 degree corners. If you like Cleveland so much, go pay for it yourself and persuade the FAA to allow racing on a public airport. It's a guaranteed money loser.


Christ you're a miserable prick if someone has a differing opinion to you

#11 Risil

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 08:03

So what is the last track? 

 

Sonoma's slower. The Glen is (a lot) faster.



#12 LeClerc

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 09:20

I had some frozen, microwaved Steak 'n Shake sandwiches this week. They were bad. I hope Rahal has a miserable weekend.


Frozen? Microwaved?

Self-inflicted wound, I'd say.

#13 paulb

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 12:51

Thanks for the OP Risil!

 

I hope this race is a cracker in opposition to the predictions of many. I want to see Dixon extend his championship lead.

 

I can't believe there are folks who don't like Cleveland, the most Indycar of tracks, IMHO.

 

I do think that baggage cart racing would catch on. Imagine three wide in a turn with luggage flying in every direction! Or maybe you don't have to imagine that if you have been to an airport lately!!



#14 Afterburner

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 13:42

I do think that baggage cart racing would catch on. Imagine three wide in a turn with luggage flying in every direction! Or maybe you don't have to imagine that if you have been to an airport lately!!


Pfft, I want to see stair car racing. It could be sponsored by the Bluth Company. :p

#15 paulb

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 14:07

Pfft, I want to see stair car racing. It could be sponsored by the Bluth Company. :p

I get it, with a passenger on top a la side car racing!



#16 king_crud

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 14:13

And the pit crew have to guide it to a stop by waving those paddles

#17 jonpollak

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 14:52

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Jp



#18 paulb

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 16:47

Thx JP. Pix changed already.

#19 Radoye

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 17:06

http://www.racer.com...d-ohio-practice
 

One bit of humor arose on pit lane prior to the session as most cars were in place and ready to go while Penske's Josef Newgarden patiently waited in position for his No. 2 Chevy to arrive...
 
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:rotfl:



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#20 jonpollak

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 19:16

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#21 jonpollak

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Posted 29 July 2017 - 04:57

OT post. : Today we were in Wendover NV and I worked with Sebastian Saavedra's cousin Carlos on the lighting crew. :lol:

After sound check we took a side trip to the Bonneville salt flats.. 1501303630814.jpg So windy out there I almost took off.

Jp


Edited by jonpollak, 29 July 2017 - 21:53.


#22 H0R

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Posted 29 July 2017 - 07:17

Oh look guys, we are becoming famous:

https://www.reddit.c...e_full_indycar/


Edited by H0R, 29 July 2017 - 07:18.


#23 Muppetmad

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Posted 29 July 2017 - 07:24

After a fair few races of not being on the thread throughout the race, I'm determined to be here this time. The races haven't been quite the same without following everybody's impulsive responses to the action.



#24 ArchieTech

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Posted 29 July 2017 - 08:12

Picks in, but going by my recent form those poor guys are in for an interesting race :lol:



#25 Vitesse2

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Posted 29 July 2017 - 08:27

OT post. : Today we were in Wendover NV and I worked with Sebastian Saavedra's cousin Carlos. We took a side trip to the Bonneville salt flats.. 1501303630814.jpg So windy out there I almost took off.

Pedantic note from an LSR historian: if you were still in Nevada, that was West Wendover. You need to lance stroll over the border into Utah to be in Wendover. Not that you can apparently tell the difference, apart from the fact that West Wendover has casinos and Wendover doesn't. :wave:

 

Another historic note: the B-29 crews who dropped the first two A-bombs trained at Wendover.



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Posted 29 July 2017 - 09:09

Oh look guys, we are becoming famous:

https://www.reddit.c...e_full_indycar/

 

There's a reputation to mantain now, no pressure.



#27 PiperPa42

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Posted 29 July 2017 - 13:12

Thanks for the OP Risil!

 

I hope this race is a cracker in opposition to the predictions of many. I want to see Dixon extend his championship lead.

 

I can't believe there are folks who don't like Cleveland, the most Indycar of tracks, IMHO.

 

I do think that baggage cart racing would catch on. Imagine three wide in a turn with luggage flying in every direction! Or maybe you don't have to imagine that if you have been to an airport lately!!

 

It's been happening since the existence of baggage carts at airports, it just hasn't been televised.



#28 Muppetmad

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Posted 29 July 2017 - 13:21

 

Sorry guys, Top Gear have beaten us to it!



#29 jonpollak

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Posted 29 July 2017 - 18:02

Qualy now !!

#30 stewie

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Posted 29 July 2017 - 18:05

Surprised no one has posted this...

 

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https://m.imgur.com/yYnmAgQ

https://m.imgur.com/yYnmAgQ


Edited by stewie, 29 July 2017 - 18:07.


#31 Alonsofan007

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Posted 29 July 2017 - 19:09

slick willy P  :clap:  :clap:



#32 ANF

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Posted 29 July 2017 - 19:43


Indy Lights about to go green.

#33 ANF

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Posted 29 July 2017 - 19:48

Well, at least they're trying.

#34 ANF

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Posted 29 July 2017 - 20:25

Good battle between Santi Urrutia and Coltón Huerta and
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#35 paulb

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Posted 29 July 2017 - 23:12

Should be a good race tomorrow.

#36 prommer

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 01:06

I get it, with a passenger on top a la side car racing!

 

The spectators get to take turns as hop-ons!

 

Did Alotion bin it in the tires again today?  Naughty boy.



#37 Peat

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 07:13

Surprised no one has posted this...

 

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https://m.imgur.com/yYnmAgQ

https://m.imgur.com/yYnmAgQ

They've bolted the RC wings on, I hope they know they need to adjust the camber/toe aswell. That's still in oval-mode!



#38 ArrowsLivery

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 11:04

That new aero kit looks very good. Makes you question why they agreed to the crap kit they've had over the past years.

#39 B Squared

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 11:08

That new aero kit looks very good. Makes you question why they agreed to the crap kit they've had over the past years.

Dan Wheldon's death and knee-jerk reactions is my guess.

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#40 stewie

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 11:08

They've bolted the RC wings on, I hope they know they need to adjust the camber/toe aswell. That's still in oval-mode!


Haha. I read it was on display so spectators could get an idea of the road course kit before the test.

#41 Radoye

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 15:05

Dan Wheldon's death and knee-jerk reactions is my guess.

 

The rear wheel pods were part of the package even before Wheldon's death. In fact, he did the main testing for the 2012 car and aero, so there must've been another reason.

 

But what bothered me the most on the old car wasn't the rear wheel pods (as hideous as they are) but rather the tall airbox, totally unnecessary on a turbo-charged car. And it still bothers me in F1 as well, the car looks so much sleeker without it.



#42 Radoye

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 15:39

Pigot had a big shunt in the warmup.



#43 Muppetmad

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 16:00

Yeah, that was a nasty shunt for Pigot - not the sort of incident you'd expect in that corner.



#44 ANF

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 16:06



Very nasty, head on into the concrete wall.

#45 Disgrace

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 16:07

Damaged the tub, unsurprisingly.



#46 Risil

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 16:08

Caught the inside kerb with his front wheel, and then over-corrected the slide. I we saw a big crash there a year or two ago, but AFAIK not one of the usual places to have an accident. Glad he's alright, but do we know if he'll make the race?



#47 LeClerc

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 16:11

<furiously checks picks>



#48 paulb

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 16:24

<furiously checks picks>

wtf mr Idontchangemypicks?! ;)

Edited by paulb, 30 July 2017 - 16:24.


#49 paulb

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 16:26

A little sad here that we have broken into a second page. I blame it on Bobby K!

#50 FLB

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 16:29

Thank Jim Downing and Robert Hubbard for the HANS...