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[JanAlsemgeest]

Dear all,
I found this image on Revs Library and allready imformed them this was from a Mustang probably taken in 1966 or 1967.
Althroug I got a strong feeling what car it is I would like to know if someone recognize the image and give details about the car or the history of the preparation (who was running the car?).
Looking forward to your replies.
Jan.

Edited by JanAlsemgeest, 30 July 2017 - 15:55.

[bradbury west]

The narrative on the original shot on Revs shows it to be a modified Abarth fuel injection system, but perhaps you knew that, otherwise that may be a lead. Unlikely to be Gawaine Baillie's car as his engineering company were already experimenting with a Paxton blower .
Roger Lund

[JanAlsemgeest]

The injection sytem showed on the image is 100% sure a Tecalemit Jackson unit. That is mentioned incorrectly at the Revs Library..



Im wandering if this is Jack Brabhams car or Jacky Olivers Mustang.
I hope some one could confirms...

Edited by JanAlsemgeest, 30 July 2017 - 15:49.

[ERIKZ]

To Jan:

 

You are correct, the injection system is one of Holman and Moody's Teclamit injection systems.  I can't tell you which ex-Alan Mann car is in the first photo (REVS Institute), but Rob Slotemaker (DPK 5B) ran that same injection system on his Mustang at least in 1968.  You can look at the photos from the 1968 Pentecostal races (engine photo number 27 and 28):

 

https://dutchracingp...ntecostal-race/

[JanAlsemgeest]

Thanks Erikz. Beatifull images of the '70ties.
I never heard (and doubts?) that Rob Slotenmaker run a Tecalemit Jackson petrol injection system on his engine.
If you have more details about that fact then, please, let us know.

More plausible is that these 3 engine bay images are from the Mustang of Framy Racing/Han Akersloot. They drove the same day with the Mustang (#93) while Rob had #91.




The injecton system on the images is the unit that I got in my depot. It's him...





Because the engine bays does show some identical details it is plausible that the first posted (Revs Library) image is from Jack Brabhams (Alan Browns) group 5 Mustang....

Very happy with the link and these images.... Many thanks...

Still the question is open: Who recognize the first Revs Library image as well (from wich race Mustang is this image)?

Edited by JanAlsemgeest, 03 August 2017 - 05:03.

[Lee Nicolle]

Thanks Erikz. Beatifull images of the '70ties.
I never heard (and doubts?) that Rob Slotenmaker run a Tecalemit Jackson petrol injection system on his engine.
If you have more details about that fact then, please, let us know.

More plausible is that these 3 engine bay images are from the Mustang of Framy Racing/Han Akersloot. They drove the same day with the Mustang (#93) while Rob had #91.




The injecton system on the images is the unit that I got in my depot. It's him...





Because the engine bays does show some identical details it is plausible that the first posted (Revs Library) image is from Jack Brabhams (Alan Browns) group 5 Mustang....

Very happy with the link and these images.... Many thanks...

Still the question is open: Who recognize the first Revs Library image as well (from wich race Mustang is this image)?

That cooling system is a broken engine waiting too happen. Ideally a Y with a swirl pot with a thermostat to the top hose. Or two 3/4" hoses direct to the radiator.

Those Windsors if run too cold or hot split bores and crack cylinder heads. Or both!

The later 90s engines are far better all round and  run at 190-195 deg F. As should the earlier versions. 200 is ideal but those engines have too many issues to take that risk.

I can guarantee if you put a temp sender in each head with that system you will have one side of the engine too hot or too cold  alternatly as the water fights its way out of the engine. With a Y it has a fairly good chance of getting to the radiator in fairly equal amounts. With a thermostat it will warm quicker and run at a constant temperature. 

[JanAlsemgeest]

Dear Lee.
Tjanks for the warning and explanations.
The first set-up with seperate water outlets to the radiator probrably caused problems. I don't know. The latter set-up wit the Y connection tube probaly not. This Mustang did run (and finish) the 24 hr of Spa Francourchamps in 1968 without any cooling issues whatever.

Still want to know if anybody recognize the car (driver or racing team) on the Rev Libraries image below?



Please reply, Thanks

[ERIKZ]

To Jan:

 

Is it possible that the Rev's Institute photo is actually DPJ8B or DPG3B....one of the surviving Liege-Sofia-Liege Mustangs since the fender tops are light in color (white?) on the second Rev's Institute photo the complete top of the cowl is blacked out (a dark color from from fender to fender-just like the 1964 Liege Mustangs).  McNally ran the "white" Mustang at the end of 1964 (December) Brands and Alan Mann is listed to have driven the "white" Mustang at Brands in January 1965 (the cowl panel in the start photo looks to be completely white though).  If you think it is Gawaine's Mustang when it was white, its missing the two wide dark blue center stripes on the cowl and the same could be said for the Jackie Oliver Mustang (light blue, with twin narrow center stripes),

 

Erik