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#1 Graveltrappen

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 11:51

http://m.gpupdate.ne...support-series/

One make
Electric
'VIP drivers at each event'

A motorsport lovers wet dream?

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#2 Risil

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 11:58

Not quite, but it'll give the crowds who actually come to a FE event to watch racing something to do.



#3 goingthedistance

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 12:02

They worked hard to insert I-PACE into that press release as many times as humanely possible, didn't they?  :lol:

 

I like the idea, though. FE is in need of some proper support events. I'd been hoping we might see a BMW i8 series fill that role, but this might do. The I-PACE is fully electric too unlike the i8, so I suppose that made it very attractive. 



#4 balmybaldwin

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 12:18

It'll only be any good for the "crowd" it they put massive flags on the top of each car so you can see them over the barriers and advertising that obscures the view of the track



#5 Vielleicht

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 12:19

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#6 Vielleicht

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 12:30

Jaguar seem serious about this electric stuff and have put their money where their mouth is to prove it. Wouldn't neccesrily* call this eTrophy cutting edge motorsport but it's a good sign of health for Formula E to gain a support series - Porsche SuperCup style. 

 

Perhaps will be interesting to see how it compares to the Electric GT Series Teslas when that starts up.

 

*depends on your criteria


Edited by Vielleicht, 12 September 2017 - 12:31.


#7 johnmhinds

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 12:46



#8 RCH

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 16:26

Not sure about this. Is it a sign that Jaguar now have no interest whatsoever in "proper" motor racing?



#9 Disgrace

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 16:44

Not sure about this. Is it a sign that Jaguar now have no interest whatsoever in "proper" motor racing?

 

Perhaps Jaguar isn't a proper manufacturer?



#10 kevinracefan

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 16:52

Not sure about this. Is it a sign that Jaguar now have no interest whatsoever in "proper" motor racing?

 clearly the racing they covet is the race to be the best battery road powered car, same as Audi, Renault, Panasonic, Mahindra, etc..

 

just because the skinny tires are louder than the drive train doesn't mean it's not proper racing.. (the tracks do suck, LOL)



#11 Vielleicht

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 17:33

What I think is wonderful is that Jaguar's brave new foray into building an EV brand image is being forged in the world of motorsport. How very Jaguar of them. 



#12 superden

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 17:58

So you already have boring single seaters and now there's a boring tin top series to pass the time in between races.

Value for money.

#13 RacingGreen

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 21:04

Good to see Jaguar involved in the sport but I'm not overly inspired by this. Hope Jaguar get a good marketing return for their effort but .....  

 

if the sport is to help speed up the development of the technology then surely it needs a non one-make endurance event on an awe inspiring track and not a one make series at short, twisty FE inner city circuits. 



#14 Vielleicht

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 12:58

if the sport is to help speed up the development of the technology then surely it needs a non one-make endurance event on an awe inspiring track and not a one make series at short, twisty FE inner city circuits.

I would imagine so, yes. To me this is Jaguar chiefly investing in marketing during which they should learn a thing or two about pushing their I-Type drive-trains to the limit. Its not like they'll be unable to apply knowledge from running this series to their future vehicles, but at the same time it's not massively groundbreaking.

 

I would love open class electric endurance events but I think we'll have to wait a little longer for that, though I wouldn't like to say how long. In the meantime, this announcement is a good (and potentially significant) show of health for Formula E and probably electric motorsport too - even if it's not overly impressive in the grand scheme of things.



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Posted 14 September 2017 - 13:38

Why not create a support series with the beautiful F-Type? These SUV's are hideous and have to do **** with racing cars and efficiency.

#16 Vielleicht

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 14:03

Why not create a support series with the beautiful F-Type? These SUV's are hideous and have to do **** with racing cars and efficiency. 

Because the I-Pace will be their first electric vehicle release and they have yet to build an electric F-Type?

 

As for the second bit, Jagaur themselves described the I-Pace concept as an 'all electric 5 seater sports car' with 700Nm of torque and 400PS (near enough 300kW) witha 0-60 of 4 seconds. Sounds pretty racy to me.


Edited by Vielleicht, 14 September 2017 - 14:17.


#17 BalanceUT

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 03:53

Not Formula E, but will be a support race for it. All 10 teams will drive Jaguar I-Pace EV cars. 

 

https://arstechnica....-racing-series/



#18 RPM40

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 10:36

Can they race on race tracks?

#19 Kraken

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 12:01

No reason why not but they won't as FE only race on street tracks.



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#20 Vielleicht

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 12:35

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#21 goingthedistance

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 12:39

Threads merged. 



#22 Clatter

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 13:20

So you already have boring single seaters and now there's a boring tin top series to pass the time in between races.

Value for money.

Plenty of people don't see F1 as value for money. If you find it boring then don't watch.

#23 Clatter

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 13:24

Good to see Jaguar involved in the sport but I'm not overly inspired by this. Hope Jaguar get a good marketing return for their effort but .....

if the sport is to help speed up the development of the technology then surely it needs a non one-make endurance event on an awe inspiring track and not a one make series at short, twisty FE inner city circuits.

In the longer term they might move in that direction, but I think they are doing the right thing in concentrating on getting things up and running first.

#24 PayasYouRace

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 13:57

No reason why not but they won't as FE only race on street tracks.


Apart from in Mexico.

#25 Kalmake

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 14:11

No reason why not but they won't as FE only race on street tracks.

A reason is little street tracks don't drain the batteries as fast.



#26 Vielleicht

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 14:27



#27 Ben1445

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 14:48

In that video, Bobby mentions Singapore as a venue. Given that there have been rumours about FE and Singapore, is it just a mistake or does he know something we don't.......hmmmm.... 

 

Probably just a mistake. 



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Posted 22 December 2017 - 16:22

In that video, Bobby mentions Singapore as a venue. Given that there have been rumours about FE and Singapore, is it just a mistake or does he know something we don't.......hmmmm....

Probably just a mistake.


Singapore was rumored already for an entry in the FE calendar for this season.
It might be added in S5 or S6

#29 Tsarwash

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 16:29

Good stuff. This is growing. In five or six years, electric racing will be here properly. 



#30 Ben1445

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 17:28

Good stuff. This is growing. In five or six years, electric racing will be here properly. 

Yup. Really looking forward to this eTrophy. Will add that solid support race that Formula E was crying out for. 

 

I'm hyped to see what other EV categories appear. It's inevitable that we will see something along the lines of EV touring cars, rally or rally-cross in the next 5 years. All I can say is bring in on and let the best category win  :)



#31 Vielleicht

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 17:59

I'm hyped to see what other EV categories appear. It's inevitable that we will see something along the lines of EV touring cars, rally or rally-cross in the next 5 years. All I can say is bring in on and let the best category win  :)

Global Rallycross will have an EV category from 2019 and FIA World Rallycross sometime from 2020-ish.



#32 Nathan

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Posted 23 December 2017 - 01:44

People need to understand Jaguar is swiftly moving into producing a range of EV vehicles.  If you want to shift your business model to sporty electric cars, are you going to go race F1 or Le Mans?


Edited by Nathan, 23 December 2017 - 01:44.


#33 Dolph

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Posted 23 December 2017 - 12:14

oh my god the whining in this thread. I hope you are all proud of youselves



#34 Timorous

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Posted 23 December 2017 - 12:40

Why not create a support series with the beautiful F-Type? These SUV's are hideous and have to do **** with racing cars and efficiency.

 

Well you could split the difference and have a racing series of E-Type Zero's



#35 PayasYouRace

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Posted 23 December 2017 - 13:24

Well you could split the difference and have a racing series of E-Type Zero's.


I’d have one.

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Posted 23 December 2017 - 15:49

Yup. Really looking forward to this eTrophy. Will add that solid support race that Formula E was crying out for. 
 
I'm hyped to see what other EV categories appear. It's inevitable that we will see something along the lines of EV touring cars, rally or rally-cross in the next 5 years. All I can say is bring in on and let the best category win  :)


While I liked the idea of the children racing, a true support series will certainly provide a boost for Formula E.
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#37 paulb

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Posted 24 December 2017 - 13:51

^Is that pic from Long Beach? At the first FE event at Long Beach, they had a support race where schools were the entrants. It was definitely an eclectic mix of vehicles.

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Posted 25 December 2017 - 10:32

I believe it was at 4-5 races in season 1. I saw them at Berlin Tempelhof.

It is amazing how little information I can find about them online now. As far as I remember, local schools could participate and would get sent a kit to build the cars and then they had to race it as support for Formula E, I believe they had a couple of months to get the car ready.

Edited by PiperPa42, 25 December 2017 - 10:39.


#39 Vielleicht

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 20:51

M-Sport Linked to Operations Deal for Jaguar I-PACE eTROPHY

http://e-racing365.c...i-pace-etrophy/

 

Malcom Wilson is a guest of Jaguar at the Mexico ePrix and is thought to be negotiating a deal to provide operations and technical support for the series.

 

Also new entrant announcements expected soon.



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#40 BRG

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Posted 04 March 2018 - 19:20

M-Sport Linked to Operations Deal for Jaguar I-PACE eTROPHY

http://e-racing365.c...i-pace-etrophy/

 

Malcom Wilson is a guest of Jaguar at the Mexico ePrix and is thought to be negotiating a deal to provide operations and technical support for the series.

 

Maybe.  Or maybe it is someone adding 2 and 2 and making 5.  Wilson is in Mexico for the upcoming WRC round there, so it may be smoke without fire, although M-Sport have been building and running Bentleys in GT racing, so they do have some skin in the game. 



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Posted 05 March 2018 - 21:06

http://e-racing365.c...i-pace-etrophy/

 

Race format will be set as a nice and simple 25 minute + 1 lap sprint. Luverly. 



#42 Vielleicht

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 17:23

Formula E Jaguar I-Pace support series to get M-Sport assistance

https://www.autospor...port-assistance

 

Jaguar Land Rover's special vehicle operations department will build the racing I-Paces, while Autosport understands M-Sport engineers will be deployed at races.

 

So the reports were accurate.


Edited by Vielleicht, 08 March 2018 - 17:23.


#43 Tsarwash

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 17:26

So you already have boring single seaters and now there's a boring tin top series to pass the time in between races.

Value for money.

Personally I have found the FE races that I have watched in the last year a lot less boring than the majority of the F1 races that I have watched. 



#44 Nathan

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 17:51

Why not create a support series with the beautiful F-Type? These SUV's are hideous and have to do **** with racing cars and efficiency.

 

Because the F-Type has **** all to do with EVs.



#45 Vielleicht

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 20:37

Jaguar Racing @JaguarRacing 7 hours ago

The Jaguar I-PACE eTROPHY development car has completed its first shakedown! The global public debut will be on the streets of Berlin ahead of the ABB @FIAFormulaE E-Prix. #JaguarElectrifies #RaceToInnovate

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Edited by Vielleicht, 23 April 2018 - 20:38.


#46 Vielleicht

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 17:49

Bit of a sample run from Berlin at the beginning of this video

 

https://www.facebook...22730814433457/



#47 FirstnameLastname

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 18:14

The screeching, wow.

#48 Ben1445

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Posted 28 May 2018 - 12:31

eTrophy expecting to have a VIP car for public figures/celebrities if they have/obtain International C racing licences. 

http://e-racing365.c...for-season-one/

 

Also possibly two classes with FIA Gold and Silver drivers up top and then separate honours for bronze rated drivers. 



#49 Vielleicht

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 16:19

Kathrine Legge will drive for RLL

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#50 HistoryFan

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Posted 14 July 2018 - 00:00

nice to see her in the series!

There will be 3 female racing drivers what I understand.