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[SophieB]

It's here! Race day in Singapore so expect shots of very sweaty drivers observing afterwards how their in car drinks bottle was like sipping hot tea. Also possibly expect what seems to be a developing trend of Mercedes suddenly looking like fish out of water and flopping about helplessly. What is UP with that? 
 
 
More useful things to watch out for will now follow:
 
When is it on?
 
Formula 1‏Verified account @F1  17m17 minutes ago


RACE DAY #SingaporeGP #F1

 

 
What is the start grid?
 
 
Petr Hlawiczka‏ @hlawiczka  18h18 hours ago
#F1 Starting grid of #SingaporeGP - GRAPHICS: http://f1news.autoroad.cz/novinky/88553-grafika-startovni-rost-v-singapuru-po-penalizaci-ericssona …


 
 
 
What tyres does everyone have?
 
I still resent having to devote braincells to this one but that's just me so here is what everyone is bringing to the party today:
 
Albert Fabrega ES‏ @AlbertFabrega  20m20 minutes ago
Pocas diferencias en neumáticos para carrera y poco significativas si va a ser a una parada. A partir d P10 saldrán con nuevos.

 
(Or,  'Not many difference, not much significance if it's a one stop. Drivers outside the top ten will be on new tyres')
 

 
 
What about the weather?
 
Ah yes, the traditional aspect of F1 that makes it so especially appealing to the British because it gives us epic clearance to discuss the weather endlessly. When it rains in Singapore it doesn't mess around, so the local forecast is worth keeping an eye on although now I think about it, I don't recall many washouts. The rain seems to clear by the evening but have fun watching the skies, I know I will be:
 

Will Buxton‏ @thebuxtonblog

Winds in the east, mist coming in, like something is brewing, about to begin

 
Andrew Benson‏Verified account @andrewbensonf1  7m7 minutes ago
Andrew Benson Retweeted Will Buxton

It's brewed, and now it's pouring down

 

And so on.
 
Who is going to win?
 
You never know! But probably Vettel thanks to this strong performance yesterday
 
Formula 1‏Verified account
 @F1  16h16 hours ago

It was going to take something special to beat the Red Bulls, and Sebastian Vettel did just that. His #SingaporeGP pole lap in full

https://twitter.com/F1/status/909078524207570945

 
Other things to watch out for in the race. 

• The camerman spots a lizard
• Crofty makes an awkward joke about Raffles or Singapore Slings
• The cameraman zooms in on a celeb and you need to read the caption to know who it is
• Someone hits the wall
• Booing the podium

[SophieB]

Anthony Rowlinson‏ @Rowlinson_F1  13m13 minutes ago

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Marina Bay was out there somewhere... #Stygian #Murk @F1NightRace

[Fademan]

Rain falling heavily, with thunder right now. 4.20pm.

[LiftAndCoast]

So, who is advantaged by a green track?

[RedBaron]

 

Will Buxton

Rain is easing off for the start of the Porsche race. It's supposed to hang around for a good few hours though.

Edited by RedBaron, 17 September 2017 - 08:27.

[peroa]

So merc could potentially go US-S-SS if necesarry (SC or sumpin'), otherwise a straight 1 stopper with a long soft stint.

[FullOppositeLock]

Will be a looooong race with many SC's and code red's by the looks of it

[RedBaron]

https://video.twimg....nlggoK2j1v1.mp4

[Hellenic tifosi]

Ferrari and Redbull have a new soft set available, the "used" ones only have one installation lap on them.

In any case, it's probably going to be a one stop race, from US to SS.

Edited by Hellenic tifosi, 17 September 2017 - 08:32.

[SophieB]

 
Will Buxton
Rain is easing off for the start of the Porsche race. It's supposed to hang around for a good few hours though.

That photo is amazing and looks more like the start of a film set in the future, like a message is going to appear on the screen in futuristic font telling us that humanity fought the aliens ...and lost.

[TomNokoe]

Green track helps particularly Red Bull and McLaren, somewhat Ferrari and definitely not Mercedes.

I think US-S-SS will be faster on a green track as long as you don't have traffic.

Edited by TomNokoe, 17 September 2017 - 08:35.

[Viryfan]

Will be a looooong race with many SC's and code red's by the looks of it

It is so hot that it will take less than one hour to dry up.

 

nothing to worry imho.

[Lights]

Still 3.5 hours to race. Will be dry by then.

[Joseki]

A dirty track should make up for an interesting start.

[ckolcz]

Still 3.5 hours to race. Will be dry by then.

It always is. I still can't believe how rarely it rains these days. As if we were on rFactor on scripted dry weather.

[thegforcemaybewithyou]

These cams should give a good indication of how dry or wet the roads are currently around the track.

 

https://www.onemotor...meras0/mce.html

[Kelateboy]

Nothing to worry about. It will be a dry race. Processional and boring.

[Radion]

I hope the redbull guys behave at the start!

[A3]

I hope the redbull guys behave at the start!

Daniel is up for some pingpong.
https://twitter.com/...086024399278081

[Hellenic tifosi]

These cams should give a good indication of how dry or wet the roads are currently around the track.

https://www.onemotor...meras0/mce.html

Seems dry, isn't it?

[thegforcemaybewithyou]

Still damp, but drying, I'd say.

 

The radar might indicate that some more rain might come down from the east. http://www.weather.g...rain-area-240km

[SamH123]

No point hoping for rain IMO, the chance of green flag wet tyre running is way smaller than even normal

[Nonesuch]

I hope the redbull guys behave at the start!

I hope so too, but wouldn't be surprised if they didn't. They (rightly) see this as their only chance to win a race this year on outright pace. Plus they have nothing to lose.

Best case scenario would be a good start by Vettel, and Räikkönen occupying Ricciardo's attention.

Still, even if they can't get ahead of - or barge through - Vettel at the start, with a 2v1 race strategy Red Bull is probably still the favourite to win.

[karting]

Green track helps particularly Red Bull and McLaren, somewhat Ferrari and definitely not Mercedes.

I think US-S-SS will be faster on a green track as long as you don't have traffic.

He heard different things this season. Mercedes was quite good most of the track on Friday as the track was green, Ferrari needs more grip on the track. So it definitely should sweet Mercedes more than Ferrari.

[thegforcemaybewithyou]

Will we see a proper Singapore train from the top 6 (or even top 10) for the first 15 laps as the leader might control the pace. This would keep the field together and makes an undercut move very risky.

[RekF1]

Unfortunately seb's going to kill this one. He could have a 5 second gap to 2nd place by the time they start the third lap. His opening lap pace is better than anyone.

[kamikaze1]

IF there's some rain… some of those long shots are good bets!  Got Alonso at 500/1 yesterday after quali.  Bottas 80/1 would be worth a euro or two.  

[Hellenic tifosi]

He heard different things this season. Mercedes was quite good most of the track on Friday as the track was green, Ferrari needs more grip on the track. So it definitely should sweet Mercedes more than Ferrari.

It depends on whether Ferrari improved due to better setup or due to the track rubbering in.

[statman]

Charlie is probably thinking about ways to delay or not start this race 

[ConsiderAndGo]

Could be very similar to 2010 this one...

[Blackoutjulian]

Why do you guys want a wet race ??? Have you already forgotten the farce in Monza ?
Charlie will delay the start till the sun will be up again this time

[phrank]

Of course Grosjean is complaining already:

https://www.motorspo...oncerns-954294/

[Jerem]

It'll be interesting to see how the Mercedes behaves in dirty air. They've usually been weak in this specific area.

[thegamer23]

They cannot race in the wet in Singapore due to reflected lights. They said that some years ago, but it's similar to Quatar in MotoGP after all.

So we have to hope it stops raining soon.

Edited by thegamer23, 17 September 2017 - 09:51.

[FullOppositeLock]

Of course Grosjean is complaining already:
https://www.motorspo...oncerns-954294/

Here's an idea for you Romain: why don't you just sit it out while the men prove it's possible to race on a wet/damp track without crashing?

[statman]

Of course Grosjean is complaining already:

https://www.motorspo...oncerns-954294/

 

It's not like Grosjean can keep his car on the track in dry conditions...

 

Get this guy out of F1.

[RPM40]

Here's an idea for you Romain: why don't you just sit it out while the men prove it's possible to race on a wet/damp track without crashing?

 

I find Grosjean quite a frustrating driver. Hes always moaning about something or the other. 

[RPM40]

It's not like Grosjean can keep his car on the track in dry conditions...

 

Get this guy out of F1.

 

Hey come on, he got beaten by the great Kimi Raikkonen. What a stellar record.

[thegforcemaybewithyou]

Why do you guys want a wet race ??? Have you already forgotten the farce in Monza ?
Charlie will delay the start till the sun will be up again this time

 

Not sure if anyone in this thread is hoping for rain or just describing the situation...

[Shade]

Why do you guys want a wet race ??? Have you already forgotten the farce in Monza ?
Charlie will delay the start till the sun will be up again this time

But it's nighttime 

[IndianChief]

Watsupp ppl

Chief is in SG, waiting for the race to begin... sunny like an egg yolk now

Edited by IndianChief, 17 September 2017 - 10:10.

[apoka]

Hey come on, he got beaten by the great Kimi Raikkonen. What a stellar record.

I don't think the bashing is needed. Most experienced drivers got beaten and not everyone can be an all time great. It's better to focus on the race, especially since there will be interesting battles at the front and midfield.

[wj_gibson]

Here's an idea for you Romain: why don't you just sit it out while the men prove it's possible to race on a wet/damp track without crashing?

 

It won't be up to him, will it? It'll be Charlie Whiting, and I doubt he will sanction a wet race under the lights.

[scheivlak]

Unfortunately seb's going to kill this one. He could have a 5 second gap to 2nd place by the time they start the third lap. His opening lap pace is better than anyone.

If so, he probably won't win. Tyre degradation will be a critical factor for the outcome of the race.

[Tsarwash]

Not sure if anyone in this thread is hoping for rain or just describing the situation...

I'm definitely hoping for rain. Or cattle on track. Or aliens. Or something, anything, to stop it becoming the usual boring procession that it always is. 

[Marklar]

I have a 50/50 chance to watch this race, which means that there is a 50/50 chance that this will be a All-time classic

[Mosrite]

Of course Grosjean is complaining already:

https://www.motorspo...oncerns-954294/

that's nothing new, he complains about everything at every track, he is always complaining on the track conditions, the guy just never shuts up blaming everything around him for his predicament. He needs a fast ticket out of F1 if he can't deal with the race conditions

[IndianChief]

It won't be up to him, will it? It'll be Charlie Whiting, and I doubt he will sanction a wet race under the lights.

 

Charlie needs to be fired soon... this extibct dinosaur has no place in the epitome of modern racing

[ArchieTech]

There was a time when drivers would spend time figuring out how they could race in bad conditions, rather than how they couldn't.

[Fatgadget]

Charlie needs to be fired soon... this extibct dinosaur has no place in the epitome of modern racing