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Singapore 2017 start chaos


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Poll: Who caused that? (828 member(s) have cast votes)

Who caused that big ol' mess at the start of the race?

  1. Seb (575 votes [69.44%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 69.44%

  2. Kimi (32 votes [3.86%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.86%

  3. Max (57 votes [6.88%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.88%

  4. Racing Incident (154 votes [18.60%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 18.60%

  5. Other (10 votes [1.21%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.21%

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#1 SophieB

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:07

Yikes. Please discuss the start here.

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#2 bernardv

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:07

Switched off the TV.



#3 SCUDmissile

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:08

Could have been a 1-2 going into first turn. He didn't have to squeeze anyone he'd have been first in that corner.



#4 ckolcz

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:08

What the **** was that? :lol:



#5 Claudiu

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:08

Vettel made a big error judgement! Now the championship is gone.
What a shame...

#6 ckolcz

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:08

There goes Vettel championship by the way.



#7 Dimocash

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:09

Wow....just wow.... what could sebastian and Verstappen do??
What a shame

#8 pdac

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:09

Yikes indeed.



#9 acf69

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:09

Before the Ricciardo fans bask in glory, 100% Raikonnen killing both Vettel, Alonso and Max' race. What an idiot...



#10 Claudius

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:09

Wtf? I don't think Vettel saw Kimi on the inside and squezed Max who had nowhere to go...
Too bad.

#11 Cliff

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:09

Idiots. And dan lucking into it again while getting destroyed all year long...



#12 grunge

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:09

Cant fault anyone there... if anything, Vettel shouldnt have gone for that squeeze



#13 apoka

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:09

Vettel made a big error judgement! Now the championship is gone.
What a shame...

 

From the onboard, there was not much he could have done. Vettel went left still in the lead. The collision was then between Max and Kimi, which meant they could not break and damaged Vettel's rear.


Edited by apoka, 17 September 2017 - 12:26.


#14 Zava

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:09

Seb you stupid bastard. Could have been a 1-2 going into first turn. He didn't have to squeeze anyone he'd have been first in that corner.

Raikkönen would've still spun into him...



#15 LB

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:10

Vettel's to blame

#16 velorex

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:10

and again ... I'm sure the same ones as always will say it was Max' fault ...

#17 carbonfibre

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:10

Jezus raikonen thanks a lot this is getting sad.



#18 jwill189

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:10

There goes Vettel championship by the way.

 

Not like he deserved it anyway.



#19 Marklar

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:10

Zero fault for Verstappen. Kimi too optimistic and Vettel choped. So it's all down on Ferrari.

The conditions were probably the biggest problem though.



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#20 MensRea

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:10

That's how a championship goes away in 5 seconds

#21 ckolcz

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:10

Vettel didn't see Kimi and squeezed Verstappen and it all kicked off.



#22 Jyrjo

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:11

Vettel - Verstappen - Wall - Räikkönen.. in the order of blame. 



#23 ckolcz

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:11

Not like he deserved it anyway.

He's been great all season.



#24 DILLIGAF

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:11

Before the Ricciardo fans bask in glory, 100% Raikonnen killing both Vettel, Alonso and Max' race. What an idiot...


Disagree. It was Vettel's fault. But I don't think he knew Kimi was alongside Max. Racing incident. Gutted for Max.

#25 Freeze011

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:11

Just amazing... just amazing...



#26 grunge

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:11

Raikkönen would've still spun into him...

im not saying Vettel was to fault for that incident but clearly if anyone had more part in causing the collision of all three, it was Vettel



#27 Massa

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:11

Thanks Vettel. Stupid mistake.

#28 pdac

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:12

Vettel didn't see Kimi and squeezed Verstappen and it all kicked off.

 

Start of the race. Vettel should not have assumed that no one was there.



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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:13

Un be lievable!

 

Wtf were the Ferrari's doing, sandwiching Max like that. Nowhere to go.

 

This has to be a very big penalty for Raikkonen.

 

Another race and even possible win destroyed for Max, just when you think it can't get much worse....



#30 anbeck

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:13

Vettel, you won't be champion like this.



#31 Claudiu

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:13

This is rain for you... A lottery, Max did nothing wrong actually, there should have been a SC start in my view but it doesn't count for **** now. Congrats to Lewis for his 4th title... Better luck next year I guess!

#32 smr

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:13

I feel a bit empty now weve lost both ferrari drivers and alonso :(

#33 as65p

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:13

Nevermind.


Edited by as65p, 17 September 2017 - 12:15.


#34 Zava

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:13

im not saying Vettel was to fault for that incident but clearly if anyone had more part in causing the collision of all three, it was Vettel

Kimi turned too soon, got caught in Verstappen, spun into Vettel. 



#35 Kelateboy

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:13

It has ended in tears. I hope it rains harder because we need Hamilton not to win this one.



#36 maaaarsh

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:14

Vettel can crash in to cars on purpose without a serious penalty, so no chance they hit him here regardless of the merits.



#37 Peat

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:14

Raikkonen 'too optimistic'??? Perhaps motor racing isn't the sport for you.

Racing incident. If you HAD to apportion blame, it's on Vettel. 


Very low expectations for this race now. What a waste.


Edited by Peat, 17 September 2017 - 12:14.


#38 noikeee

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:14

I don't think I could've imagined a start scenario that I wanted less to happen that that (well, other than someone getting injured). Both Ferraris, golden chance to win and close up the championship gone; Alonso with a brilliant chance of best result of the season gone; another major challenge to Hamilton and Mercedes and for a race win gone in Max. And it seemed like possibly a wee bit more Kimi's fault than the others.

I guess that's a likely 1 on the satisfaction rating for the Voting championship then. Go Ricciardo now.

#39 dimoose

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:15

I actually think Kimi did nothing wrong. Max moved into kimi (because Seb squeezed him)

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#40 grunge

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:15

Zero fault for Verstappen. Kimi too optimistic and Vettel choped. So it's all down on Ferrari.

The conditions were probably the biggest problem though.

Kimi saw a clear gap ahead with more than a cars width...every single car in that position will go for that.



#41 Cenotaph

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:15

Tbh, Vettel didn't do anything that he doesn't do every start. I think VER definitely panicked unnecessarily. He had room

#42 Dabash

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:15

This is the same exact scenario of Spa 2016



#43 ferrarista

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:15

It has ended in tears. I hope it rains harder because we need Hamilton not to win this one.

when you see the rain in singapore with a ferrari on pole you know its gone. Umbelievable.

#44 Disgrace

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:15

Initially I called it Verstappen but it's a racing incident. That said, no sympathy for Vettel. He couldn't see Kimi but it's nice to see these bully tactics backfire.



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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:15

Un be lievable!
 
Wtf were the Ferrari's doing, sandwiching Max like that. Nowhere to go.
 
This has to be a very big penalty for Raikkonen.
 
Another race and even possible win destroyed for Max, just when you think it can't get much worse....


Watch it again. It was Vettel who caused the contact not Kimi. Poor Max got squeezed into Kimi.

#46 John B

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:16

Well, Hamilton was asked if the length of the race made it possible for something to work for his advantage yesterday.....(took all of 30 sec)

#47 Lights

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:16

This never ends. I guess good on Ric for staying out of trouble? 

But seriously, I don't find Max to blame for this. Such a shame this keeps happening to him while he did so well to outqualify Ric again. And again Ric is the one with the points. It's tiring.



#48 Claudiu

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:16

Kimi turned too soon, got caught in Verstappen, spun into Vettel.


Actually I agree, Kimi turned too soon and clipped Max tire, but if Kimi would not have been there Max could have steered left.

Stupid chain of events really but it's just the way it is.

#49 Ivanhoe

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:17

Spa 2016 revisited, with now Max in the middle of the sandwich.

#50 Lights

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 12:17

This is the same exact scenario of Spa 2016

 

This. With the same drivers and the same driver at fault (Vettel squeezing).