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#1 SophieB

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 16:30

https://www.youtube....h?v=rgc_LRjlbTU

All change, and don't you know that when you
Play at this level there's no ordinary venue!

Giles' from Buffy The Vampire Slayer brother doesn't seem to have motorsport entirely in mind as he sings his song but as it's the last Malaysian GP, and it's the closest thing I could find, you're getting it anyway. I shall miss Malaysia, it had a distinctive sense of a track, and not only because of those huge parasol things over the grandstands. I'm turning to wikipedia for more Malaysian GP facts now. Did you know that "Since 2011, the race has been officially known as the Malaysia Grand Prix."? Well, seemingly it has. Thanks, Wikipedia! It's also been part of the modern calander since 1999, when it was won by my first boss's hero, Eddie Irvine, but the addition of the Singapore race is rumoured to have damaged sales. A shame, as the Malaysian GP has seen some good races, one of which you can vote to see again if you go here, provided the race you want to see is 2001, 2003 or 2012.

2012 was really good. It rained like crazy but eventually, as is clear from the photo, it was won by Fernando Alonso's evil twin:

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It's had some more recent significant moments too. Let's go back, back, back to the 2016 race and THIS happening to the lead driver:
https://www.youtube....h?v=H0XT6n4OuSY


'Oh NOOOOOOO'! Not much between despair and ecstasy indeed. Tragic or hilarious or both, this tragilarious moment would turn out to be a rather crucial point in the championship last year. Will Sunday's race be as significant? It will have to go some to top the previous round which saw Max Verstappen trapped as the unhappy meat in a Ferrari sandwich, and the bread of that sandwich (Seb and Kimi) removed from the plate by waiter-marshals and taken back into the kitchen-garage, but not before it managed to be lobbed at Ferrnando Alonso. All of which kind of left the main course, pudding and brandy and post dinner cigar free for Lewis Hamilton to take his time over. Yes, sandwiches can be starters, why not.

This race presumably sees Mercedes in much more optimistic mood, having seen the back of the Singapore track which has traditionally held some kind of mysterious, mystic hoodoo over them. But as we've seen, come Sundays, you just never know, man. Ferrari do need to make up some lost ground though and despite or maybe because of that, the team has been in bullish mood, talking up their chances:

"You [the media] assume that it's difficult. We don't," [Kimi] said.
"We go there, it's another race, another weekend, and we go there full of fight and we'll do our best."
Vettel was still optimistic about his and Ferrari's chances, as the championship enters its final six races.
"It's a pity we couldn't show our pace [in Singapore]; but we have other races ahead of us and I am sure there will be more opportunities for us," he said.
Ferrari team principal Maurizio Arrivabene insisted Ferrari "will be back".
"That was very disappointing and it was definitely not the result we were expecting," said Arrivabene.
"But it doesn't mean that the battle is all over, just that it has become more difficult.
"We proved that we have an excellent car and two great drivers.
"We guarantee that we will be fighting right to the final corner of the very last grand prix of the year."


Also promising to be fighting right to the last race, (unlike in 2015 where it kind of looked after Austin like he was already mentally jet skiing with his dog in Malibu), is Lewis Hamilton:

Hamilton insists he "definitely won't change anything".
"Because it's working," he added after claiming a surprise win in Singapore.
"It's a perfect balance of being aggressive and cautious at the same time. So, the formula works at the moment, so I'll just continue with it. Right to the last race."


So hear that, Liberty? We definitely don't need double points because we're all going to be watching, watching, watching. Right to the end. Right until the very last Ted's notebook from Abu Dhabi.

Anyway, on with the techy/practical stuff.

What are the tyres? I love tyres.

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Mercedes has chosen to focus on the soft compound, on which the W08 has looked particularly strong on many circuits this year, especially for world championship leader Lewis Hamilton.
He will have five sets of the yellow-walled rubber available to use in Malaysia, along with seven sets of supersofts and one set of mediums.
Teammate Valtteri Bottas, who is bidding to overhaul Ferrari’s Sebastian Vettel for second place in the championship, will forgo a set of softs in favour of an extra set of mediums.

Ferrari[/size] has chosen to focus on the softest available tyres, selecting nine sets of supersofts for Vettel and teammate Kimi Raikkonen. They will also have three sets of softs and one set of mediums available each.[/size]


(source: https://www.motorspo...sian-gp-955281/ )

So when is all this happening?

Here, from the F1 main site, all times local

Fri 29 Sep – Sun 01 Oct 2017

Practice 1
Fri
11:00 – 12:30

Practice 2
Fri
15:00 – 16:30

Practice 3
Sat
14:00 – 15:00

Qualifying
Sat
17:00 – 18:00

Race
Sun
15:00 – 17:00
Full timetable

And where's it happening?

Here!

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Anyway, goodbye Malaysisa - we'll (probably) always have MotoGP. Until then, please feel free to fill this thread with exciting and diverting small stories in the run up to race day next week, and of course, weather reports.

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#2 RandomG

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 16:40


 
2012 was really good. It rained like crazy but eventually, as is clear from the photo, it was won by Fernando Alonso's evil twin:
 
ac0XP.jpg
 

Don't get it.



#3 SophieB

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 16:55

Just a small Futurama joke, no big deal.



#4 RandomG

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 16:58

Damn. Seems I missed the relevance there.



#5 Atreiu

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 17:14

I guess it'll be a coin toss between Ferrari and Mercedes. Sepang has a little of everything (but I still don't like it, like the right ingredients in the wrong recipe): slow corners, fast corners, short, straights, long straights; so it's not like one single car trait should be overwhelming in dictating performance.

 

Does Ferrari still have an edge in regards to tyre wear?


Edited by Atreiu, 22 September 2017 - 17:15.


#6 Marklar

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 17:29

So early? I'm shocked  :eek:



#7 RainyAfterlifeDaylight

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 18:18

So early? I'm shocked  :eek:

Roses are Red, Violets are Blue

Don't mess with admins, How dare you

 

:p


Edited by RainyAfterlifeDaylight, 22 September 2017 - 18:23.


#8 GoldenColt

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 18:44

That teamradio from Lewis, heartbreaking. Still gives me a chill all these months later.



#9 mangeliiito

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 19:21

I love this track. Don't know why really, but I do. So sad to see it go. Hope the last race will be brilliant!

#10 Donkey

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 20:39

It's a good track. Wide, good mix of corners, overtaking is possible, Shame it seems like the Malaysian government can't afford it any more for it to be replaced by the likes of Sochi/Baku etc.

 

Is MotoGP sticking around in Malaysia?



#11 f1paul

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 20:53

Had me going there Sophie for a moment I thought the race was this weekend and it was Thursday or something.



#12 hamilton10000

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 20:54

Probably completely pointless but here is the current weather forecast for next weekend

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#13 femi

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 21:01

So early? I'm shocked  :eek:


Thought, work and time went into that. She should be commended instead.

#14 TomNokoe

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 21:28

Not a massively strong track for Merc in 14, 15 or 16.

#15 Dabash

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 21:38

Not a massively strong track for Merc in 14, 15 or 16.

 

what about 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,and 13 ?

 

 

:)



#16 SonGoku

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 21:57

This race needs rain, otherwise it will be a tyre saving borefest.



#17 jonpollak

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 22:42

Malaise ya.

#18 Whiz

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 22:51

That teamradio from Lewis, heartbreaking. Still gives me a chill all these months later.

 

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Could be an interesting GP in terms of race strategy. Could be Ferrari on SS vs. Merc on S.


Edited by Whiz, 22 September 2017 - 22:53.


#19 HeadFirst

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 21:16

Thanks for the early start, Sophie. Not my fav track, but it does hold some interest. Looking forward to seeing how Ferrari bounces back (or not) from the disaster that was Singapore, but a victory will be tough to achieve. I expect Mercedes to be much more competitive, than they were last weekend. They will not need to rely on the misfortune of their opponents to score here. As always, I am cheering for Fernando and Kimi.



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#20 Ellios

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 21:23

I'm bouncing at the thought...

 

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#21 Danyy

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 23:56

Wow this threads already longer than Ferrari's singapore gp

#22 AmonGods

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 02:35

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Could be an interesting GP in terms of race strategy. Could be Ferrari on SS vs. Merc on S.

 

You must have the tissues from last race  :rotfl:



#23 CoolBreeze

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 05:36

It's a good track. Wide, good mix of corners, overtaking is possible, Shame it seems like the Malaysian government can't afford it any more for it to be replaced by the likes of Sochi/Baku etc.

 

Is MotoGP sticking around in Malaysia?

 

Yes, MotoGP is still very appealing.



#24 Lights

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 07:14

Just 6 races to go without the halo.  :cry: 



#25 learningtobelost

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 07:29

Just 6 races to go without the halo.  :cry:

 

Well that's... depressing.

 

On the bright side, only 9 races to go until Halo is scrapped.



#26 GrumpyYoungMan

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 07:30

They won’t scrap it, sadly if they were going to they should have done it by now...

Edited by GrumpyYoungMan, 24 September 2017 - 07:30.


#27 Ev0d3vil

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 08:35

I love this track. Don't know why really, but I do. So sad to see it go. Hope the last race will be brilliant!

 

Tickets are cheap as well, in direct comparison with Singapore. :) Especially with the favourable exchange rate.



#28 Gary Davies

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 13:22

From Oz at least, airfares are cheap, tickets are cheap, the grandstands are great, hotels are great value (especially compared to the robber barons within cooee of Albert Park) the street food markets at various spots around the KL CBD are terrific, the Tiger beer is invariably very cold and the people are friendly.

What a shame it's coming to an end. I put its demise down to, mainly, BCE's greed.

Edited by Gary Davies, 24 September 2017 - 13:23.


#29 SonGoku

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 13:52

The place always looks empty, just like South-Korea, another failed project.



#30 Nonesuch

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 14:47

 2012 was really good. It rained like crazy but eventually....

 

Eventually the race could be resumed as it had become dry enough for the fantastic Pirelli tyres to handle driving behind the safety car.

 

And then, within a couple of laps, pretty much everyone was back on Intermediates again, and the top three of Alonso, Pérez and Hamilton remained the same for the remaining 40-some laps.

 

Whatever happens at Sepang next week, here's hoping it doesn't involve any rain. :up:



#31 Requiem84

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 17:46

How fast do you guys expect RB to be?

#32 BRG

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 19:19

Shame it seems like the Malaysian government can't afford it any more

Yes, a shame that they won't go on spending the tax revenues from the largely rather poor Malaysian people in order to support the billionaires' sport where drivers are paid $35m a year to tool around in the midfield.



#33 TomNokoe

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 19:26

How fast do you guys expect RB to be?


I mentioned earlier that it hasn't been one of Mercedes strong holds in the hybrid era.

Red Bull ran the 2nd Mercedes of Rosberg reasonably close in early 2014. It was only Hamilton who was home and dry.

Vettel dominated in 2015 and quite simply had a faster car.

Last year, Red Bull rocked up and led a considerable portion of the race thanks to clever strategy.

I expect something similar to Spa from a Mercedes vs Ferrari standpoint, however this isn't as straight-heavy. Plus it's always very very hot. Both variables favour Ferrari.

Red Bull will be lurking as usual.

#34 lewislorenzo

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 21:23

I mentioned earlier that it hasn't been one of Mercedes strong holds in the hybrid era.

Red Bull ran the 2nd Mercedes of Rosberg reasonably close in early 2014. It was only Hamilton who was home and dry.

Vettel dominated in 2015 and quite simply had a faster car.

Last year, Red Bull rocked up and led a considerable portion of the race thanks to clever strategy.

I expect something similar to Spa from a Mercedes vs Ferrari standpoint, however this isn't as straight-heavy. Plus it's always very very hot. Both variables favour Ferrari.

Red Bull will be lurking as usual.

 

wasn't lewis cruising till his engine blew last year?


Edited by lewislorenzo, 24 September 2017 - 21:23.


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Posted 24 September 2017 - 21:46

I am so upset that this is the last Sepang race for the foreseeable future. Another one bites the dust.

 

Thanks for the laughs Sophie; great OP. ^^



#36 Cliff

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 22:26

Hope it absolutely pours all weekend! Max deserves it to finally get a big result!



#37 BuddyHolly

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 22:39

I'm expecting a complete Mercedes borefest but we'll see.



#38 Synkro89

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 23:12

The place always looks empty, just like South-Korea, another failed project.

Err no mate. The attendance has fizzled out over the years but in its earlier days had good numbers turning out. South Korea wasn't that bad of a circuit itself but the venue just didn't work. I will personally miss this track its had some good races over the years and easily the best Hermann Tilke track.


Edited by Synkro89, 24 September 2017 - 23:30.


#39 RhysL1218

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 01:34

Hope it absolutely pours all weekend! Max deserves it to finally get a big result!

 

Except Lewis Hamilton also happens to race and is rather good in the wet so I'm sure he'd have something to say about that. 



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#40 Raikkinen

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 04:07

It's sad that this will be the last race in Sepang. I went there for the 2016 GP and was shocked how well-organised, spacious and clean the track and it's surroundings were compared to the various European tracks i've attended. Of course I understand it's much newer and the infrastructure was build with lots of visitors in mind, but still the difference was remarkable. Well.. next year to the great but expensive and messy Spa again and Singapore 2019.

#41 Lights

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 05:32

Except Lewis Hamilton also happens to race and is rather good in the wet so I'm sure he'd have something to say about that. 

 

2nd place wouldn't be a big result?



#42 Dabash

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 06:48

2nd place wouldn't be a big result?


Except he's won the last 8 races in the wet :)

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 07:06

 

 
2012 was really good. It rained like crazy but eventually, as is clear from the photo, it was won by Fernando Alonso's evil twin:
 
ac0XP.jpg
 

Don't get it.

 

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 07:12

Best of the Tilkedromes (Turkey aside) and has a lot of recent F1 history, so I quite like this one. 2012 was probably the best race here, with that Perez vs Alonso battle for the win when both started the day with pretty long odds. I remember 2001 too, when a storm just came from nowhere and drenched the track in about twenty seconds flat. And obviously 1999, the Irvine/Hakkinen showdown where Michael returned and did probably the best 'number two' job in F1 history to make sure Eddie won the race. 

 

I suspect this one might be relatively close between Mercedes and Ferrari too. Ferrari won on merit here back in 2015, Vettel has a decent record here and so it'll be interesting to (hopefully) see the two main protagonists fighting - clearly advantage Lewis in the Championship though, so he'll be going in the happier undoubtedly. 

 

Shame this is the final race here though. I know the locals have never quite embraced it as much as others (maybe Alex Yoong should get a one-off in the Williams - would make Stroll look good and that seems to be half of their current plan anyway). When a local rider (can't remember his name) finished second in the Moto2 race a few years ago, they went mad. I seem to remember he nearly won too. 



#45 SophieB

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 11:40

Poignant reminder that 1st @f1 GP to fall prey to horrific Bernie fees has called it quits. I’ll miss the race but will be back #F1nale

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#46 jjcale

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 11:53

Wow this threads already longer than Ferrari's singapore gp

 

:rotfl: save this one for the post of the year "contest"    :clap:  :clap:  :clap:



#47 RedBaron

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 11:56

1999, Schumacher's return.

 

 



#48 dierome87

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 12:13

Sad to see this one go. 

 

The best of the Tilkedromes. Also a very beautiful setting. 



#49 HPT

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 13:04

It's a good track. Wide, good mix of corners, overtaking is possible, Shame it seems like the Malaysian government can't afford it any more for it to be replaced by the likes of Sochi/Baku etc.

 

Is MotoGP sticking around in Malaysia?

 

Yes MotoGP is sticking around. It's a combination of things that led to this. One is the fall in oil prices and the other is Liberty Media made a half-hearted attempt to keep the Malaysian GP. Bottom line is they really didn't mind losing Sepang.



#50 HPT

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 13:07

The place always looks empty, just like South-Korea, another failed project.

 

As another poster above said, the attendance dropped over the years but it is still far from empty. I feel it's more a reflection of the current state of F1 rather than the track itself. MotoGP has consistenly huge crowds year after year, even before Malaysian riders came into the fray.