I recently saw a photograph of Peter Collins HWM being worked on in the pits during practice for the 1952 German Grand Prix. Parked further back along the pit lane is an Allard J2X bearing racing numbers. I know that there was a sports car race included in the programme and wondered if Peter drove his own Allard in this race which was won by Mercedes-Benz. I haven't been able to find any info on this race which is not mentioned in the 'All About The Boy' book. I recall the organizers questioning Peters racing experience(!) and wondered if he may have used the Allard to gain experience of the circuit.
Peter Collins Nurburgring 1952
#1
Posted 03 November 2017 - 09:38
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#2
Posted 03 November 2017 - 10:01
http://www.wsrp.cz/german1952.html#7
#3
Posted 03 November 2017 - 12:24
Thank you Tim. I jumped to the wrong conclusion. I suppose it was unlikely that Peter would have taken his own car there.
Thanks again.
#4
Posted 04 November 2017 - 21:36
Is the Allard in the photo left hand drive or right hand drive? Collins's car would definitely have been RHD while Nelleman's would probably have been LHD.
Edited by D-Type, 06 November 2017 - 20:21.
#5
Posted 06 November 2017 - 00:31
You have most probably already done so ? but you might want to pose your question here, the Allard Register.
https://colin-warnes...t=1411346221683
Michael, in Canada
#6
Posted 06 November 2017 - 00:47
The photo of the Collins machine Eric mentions is on the Revs site, plus two more of the Nelleman Allard, but I can't seem to get the link to work They have made some changes on the site.
#7
Posted 06 November 2017 - 07:14
https://purl.stanford.edu/wp763rv4090
#8
Posted 06 November 2017 - 08:50
Since that link includes
"Description
Car number 111 - HWM Bristol driven by Peter Collins. In the background is number 35 - Allard J2 driven by Robert Nelleman"
can you trust any of it?
HWM Bristol forsooth!
#9
Posted 06 November 2017 - 14:37
Thank you all very much for your trouble and help, It looks as though my question is answered. The name Robert Nelleman is a new one to me. Even at my age there are still things to learn.
#10
Posted 06 November 2017 - 15:06
If the results listing for him on the Racing Sports Cars site are any guide, Robert Nelleman did nearly all his racing in Scandinavia:
http://www.racingspo...elleman-DK.html
I did wonder if he was any relation to '70s racer Jac Nellemann, but most sources show two 'n's at the end of Jac's surname.
#11
Posted 06 November 2017 - 19:10
It turns out that you can zoom in that picture. That shows definitely a LHD car. But it also shows a nice detail. On the nose are the words "C'est si bon". Anyone knows more about that?
#13
Posted 07 November 2017 - 06:17
It turns out that you can zoom in that picture. That shows definitely a LHD car. But it also shows a nice detail. On the nose are the words "C'est si bon". Anyone knows more about that?
Possibly connected to the song with that title which was very popular in that period:
https://en.m.wikiped...ki/C'est_si_bon
#14
Posted 07 November 2017 - 08:29
Sadly for me, I still remember that song!. The title also featured on the nose of George Wickens 500cc Cooper-Norton in the 1950's.
#15
Posted 07 November 2017 - 08:30
Nelleman's car used to have the text C'est si bon' on its radiator cowling, so there is no doubt that it is his car in the picture.
#16
Posted 07 November 2017 - 12:21
https://revslib.stan...log/qw554mn3412
https://revslib.stan...log/nd191gj1110
https://revslib.stan...log/hn092yn1452
and also
https://revslib.stan...log/xd532jd1129
Edited by uechtel, 07 November 2017 - 12:30.