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#1 Daniel Lester

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 13:15

Ok Folks it's clear we have some Ferrari fans, some Ferrari (MS) bashers and a few logical people. Lets see if everyone can hold a reasoned debate (for once) putting aside drivers and personnel.

In regards to cheating in F1 it would be very difficult not to get caught. For one BIG reason the staff move from team to team.

For example the computer whizz that went from McLaren to Ferrari if he knew Mclaren were cheating in 2000 he'd blow there cover as he'd know all the details and it's the same with any team on the grid. Sure the cars change and the team would deny it but the fact remains, after all what would he have to gain by saying it. If he was proved wrong he would lose credibilty and embarass his new team and would get the sack if it was severe enough. There have always been rumblings of teams cheating up and down pitlane but it's the staff who have just transferred or retired who have the inside info. Prehaps they wouldn't say anything but then they'd lose to a cheat every week and would be doing it for nothing. Maybe the real reason no one says anything is all the teams cheat to a degree and if one person opened his mouth he'd be shot down by someone else.

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#2 nichotj

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 13:22

Cheating in software is fairly easy. You can have code that erases itself straight after the start or when the engine stops for example.

As for the staff issue, they're not going to stay employed long are they? Who's going to take you on if you're known to blow your mouth off when you leave?



#3 bira

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 13:22

Originally posted by Daniel Lester
In regards to cheating in F1 it would be very difficult not to get caught. For one BIG reason the staff move from team to team.

For example the computer whizz that went from McLaren to Ferrari if he knew Mclaren were cheating in 2000 he'd blow there cover as he'd know all the details and it's the same with any team on the grid.


I have yet to meet a professional senior in Formula One who would tell his new team what his former team did.

It the law of the land: if you squeal on your previous employer, then you're essentially telling your current one that you're not to be trusted.

Team owners never ask employees to tell them about their work in a rivaling team and employees either don't know anything, or would never betray the confidentiality contracts they signed. It's just not done.


#4 Daniel Lester

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 13:27

Ok I overlooked the fact that it wouldn't make anyone take you on. Prehaps not blow the whistle but talk about it with the new team one assumes it would get out sooner or later, someone in the new team would make a comment in general conversation or they'd be over heard. In my opinion either they all cheat or none of them cheat. By cheating I mean blatent cheating. The grey areas we can debate til the cows come home and not reach a verdict.

#5 Viss1

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 15:44

How do you define blatant cheating?

#6 ray b

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 17:16

Originally posted by Viss1
How do you define blatant cheating?

like the spartians when you get caught!

question wonder stay wierd ray

#7 Blue

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 19:52

Ok Folks it's clear we have some Ferrari fans, some Ferrari (MS) bashers and a few logical people



Doh!