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#1 schumigal

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 16:19

FRom http://www.planet-f1...f1/ENG?ref=5944

It’s believed that Ferrari are unhappy with Rubens Barrichello’s performance this season and that the Italian team has already made approaches to both Coulthard and Giancarlo Fisichella. Although Coulthard would almost certainly have to play ‘second fiddle’ to Schumacher should he move to Maranello, at least he would received a substantial pay rise, he currently receives £2.8m ($4m) at McLaren, he could get twice that at Ferrari.

Should McLaren lose Coulthard, it’s believed they would make a move for Jenson Button, though it’s not known how this would affect the youngster’s long term contract with Williams. That said, the Grove based outfit already has Ralf Schumacher and Juan Pablo Montoya on its books… an abundance of talent.

David Robertson and Harald Huysman, Button’s managers, have confirmed that two teams have shown interest in their boy but refused to name them.


From http://uk.sports.yah...1/48/bokbn.html

Although the young Finn's manager Steve Robertson has denied he has been approached by Ferrari, he did admit that the team had made enquires about Raikkonen's contract status with Sauber, saying: "I have heard that Ross Brawn has asked to see Kimi's data and asked about his contract."
Raikkonen is currently under a three-year contract with Sauber in a deal that also includes a provisional option for a fourth year, but Ferrari enjoy a privileged relationship with the Swiss team after supplying them with engines since 1997 and could claim first option on him.
Robertson, however, believes Raikkonen is not yet ready to make the step up to a top team. "I would like Kimi to fulfil his contract with Sauber and go to a big team when he knows a lot more about Formula 1," he added.


Hmm, from Button to Kimi to David to Fischi. That sounds pretty definite that Rubens will be booted! Or is it just mid season rumour?



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#2 fifi

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 16:25

i think they have partially decided that Rubens is out after this season, and are checking availability of other drivers, which they would have done anyway.
maybe they will organise a swpa for Rubens he can go to Sauber or Benetton whil Fisi or Kimi go to Ferrari

#3 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 16:28

or maybe they're trying to tell Rubens to shape up

#4 fillern

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 16:35

I don't know what they want, but I would like to see El Fisicho in Ferrari. He's Italian, he's fast and he might be mental strong enough to meet Michael. It's difficult to see how Kimi would perform in a Ferrari alongside Michael. Being a youngster, modest and straightforward might help him, and there is no-one better to learn from than Michael. I don't see David in Ferrari with Michael. David needs to prove himself, and the kind of competition he will get from Micheal, especially mental, would not do good for DC's career.

I find it sad however that Barrichello didn't work out the way we all hoped he would.

Only left to wait and see. But it seems to make sense, the http://uk.sports.yah...1/48/bokbn.html thang.



#5 schumigal

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 16:36

Oh yeah, forgot abuot Montoya. But Montoya rejected the offer publicly. Guess it's now between Rubens, Kimi, Button, Fischi and Coulthard.

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 16:41

Coulthard to Ferrari? Now that I would like to see because there would be a complete outbreak of schizophrenia on this BB amongst the anti-Coulthard/pro-Ferrari types - especially when he started winning. But I cannot imagine Coulthard would want to play second fiddle to someone yet again so it is an unlikely scenario.

Only a driver new to F1 would be prepared to risk the poisoned chalice of being Schumacher's No 2 - he would have to be prepared to grovel as Irvine did, in the hope that his day would come when Schumacher retired. Except that there is the danger that by then he would be so discredited that Ferrari would not want to promote him to No 1.

I think Ferrari will have a problem attracting anyone better than Rubens if the current political situation there continues. What is in it for the No 2 driver except money?


#7 tifosi

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 16:42



BRG, not to worry. As a long-time Ferrari lover we will become DC's biggest fans the second he signs. You would not believe how much we hated Prost before he drove for us or Schumacher before 96. We love our cars but are very fickle with our drivers.


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Posted 01 May 2001 - 16:47

If Fisi keeps up his current form Flavio will never let him go. Flavio has an option on Fisi for next year and he has until 15th August to use it. If Flavio gives Fisi a multiyear-deal with Renault I think Fisi will stay there rather than being second driver to Schumi.

#9 fillern

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 16:47

Originally posted by BRG
Only a driver new to F1 would be prepared to risk the poisoned chalice of being Schumacher's No 2


Nobody likes to be slower than the Teammate. Not even DC...

...and I personally think it's worse being Mazzacanes second fiddle than being Michaels.

:cool:

#10 rasnual

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 17:46

Ha ha ha ha ...
Neither DC nor GF will sit in the Ferrari ...

DC won't be with MS, won't be with Ferrari, he is a McLaren b?tch!
GF is old, slow, worn out, almost dead, ...

It'll be Button or Raikkonen !!!


#11 Vicster

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 18:13

It's got to be Raikkonen. Considering, Sauber and Ferrari's close relationship, I doubt Sauber would say no to a transfer. Plus being second to MS this early in his career would not be a problem. Consider it an apprenticeship.


#12 Punisher6

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 19:44

Originally posted by Vicster
It's got to be Raikkonen. Considering, Sauber and Ferrari's close relationship, I doubt Sauber would say no to a transfer. Plus being second to MS this early in his career would not be a problem. Consider it an apprenticeship.


It might be a good trade for credit on some engines.......;)

#13 Rene

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 19:46

If Sauber gets some Volvo power in the coming years....I think they would like to hang on to Raikkonen....

#14 magic

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 20:19

kimi.

where is redfever when we need him?

#15 Winegod

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 20:25

There are a number of names associated with the vacant Ferrari seat next year: Fisichella, Button, Verstappen, Raikkonnen. I could see Verstappen go, perhaps even Fisi. But Button is all hype. In two years time, no one will know his name. For here is the god awful truth, Button is the bastard child of the British press and jaded Damon Hill fans. I'm not knocking Button, I'm just saying the truth. Giving him a seat at Ferrari robs a number of deserving drivers who have put in their dues--think Verstappen and Fisichella. Ferrari will pick neither of these drivers, however. Indeed, Ferrari will follow Williams' lead and grab a driver from the CART ranks!

Could anyone else imagine Christian Fittipaldi or Paul Tracy rubbing shoulders with MS?





#16 Punisher6

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 20:33

Originally posted by Winegod
There are a number of names associated with the vacant Ferrari seat next year: Fisichella, Button, Verstappen, Raikkonnen. I could see Verstappen go, perhaps even Fisi. But Button is all hype. In two years time, no one will know his name. For here is the god awful truth, Button is the bastard child of the British press and jaded Damon Hill fans. I'm not knocking Button, I'm just saying the truth. Giving him a seat at Ferrari robs a number of deserving drivers who have put in their dues--think Verstappen and Fisichella. Ferrari will pick neither of these drivers, however. Indeed, Ferrari will follow Williams' lead and grab a driver from the CART ranks!

Could anyone else imagine Christian Fittipaldi or Paul Tracy rubbing shoulders with MS?




Think you've had a little too much wine;) Schuey himself has said he's impressed with Button. Fittipaldi or Tracey in F1? RIIIIGHHHT......

#17 nutts

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 21:27

...do you think jody schekter's trying to get on the phone to luca?!:lol:

i'd like to see kimi with ms - i reckon ms is far more relaxed this season after winning the wdc and would welcome a protege, rather than destroy him as he has done other team mates....

...and i know he's said he doesn't want it; but ralf would be an unbelievable publicity coup! (and a pretty good team mate to boot!)

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 21:40

And people complain about the hype about Montoya? :rolleyes: What has Kimi done to prove that he's any better than RB? If Ferrari were to sign any of the Sauber drivers it would be Heidfeld, as he as outdriven Kimi so far this season. However Kimi is a driver of potential, but he's not ready for Ferrari yet.

If RB wants to stay at Ferrari next year, then he'll be at Ferrari next year. Despite some people saying that he's underperformed, he's still 3rd in the championship. What would he do if he were driving good in these peoples minds? RB is a class driver and is currently better than Button, Kimi, Verstappen, Fisichella, etc. And he's the match of DC. Why should Ferrari let him go when he's doing a good job, and he'd also have a lot of secrets to take out of Maranello too.

#19 Winegod

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 22:18

Originally posted by AD. And he's the match of DC.



Isn't that the point. :lol:

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#20 kouks

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 23:00

Originally posted by tifosi


BRG, not to worry. As a long-time Ferrari lover we will become DC's biggest fans the second he signs. You would not believe how much we hated Prost before he drove for us or Schumacher before 96. We love our cars but are very fickle with our drivers.


So true!!!:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

#21 kouks

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 23:23

I'd like to see DC at Ferrari. I think DC would go to Ferrari IF he dosen't win the WDC this year. This is my thinking anyway

After telling us year in, year out how this is his year, he has lost a heap of credibilty. The only way to redeam himself I think is to throw himself in the Lions den, ie at Ferrari with MS. The way I see it, he has nothing to lose, everything to gain. I think he believes he's quicker than MS, he has overtaken him more than any other driver in the last 4 years. He isn't scared of MS.

Seeing 80% of F1 fans do an about face on DC would be fun to see as well:lol:

#22 Mrv

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 23:31

Trust me, Ferrari have no interest in Coulthard whatsoever. He is not a driver that meets their demands.

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Posted 01 May 2001 - 23:34

Originally posted by rasnual
Ha ha ha ha ...
Neither DC nor GF will sit in the Ferrari ...

DC won't be with MS, won't be with Ferrari, he is a McLaren b?tch!
GF is old, slow, worn out, almost dead, ...

It'll be Button or Raikkonen !!!


My, my, such charm and diplomacy. You fit right in Bubba!

#24 RedFever

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Posted 02 May 2001 - 02:14

Fisichella at Ferrari!!!!!!!!

2 years as MS's second driver (he will do way better than Rubens easy, then replace the German as driver 31, as Schumi will eventually leave)

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Posted 02 May 2001 - 02:15

"GF is old, slow, worn out, almost dead, ... "

What a statement. Fisi is 27 and is giving Jenson, you recommendation 1 second a lap in races.......... team managers actually notice that, unlike you........:rolleyes:

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Posted 02 May 2001 - 02:30

No way on Kimi next year. Ferrari isn't interested in developing anyone and I suspect they'd rather give him a another year learning some race craft w/ sauber before employing his services.

Would hate to see RB back next year...tired of always seeing him muscled around last year...this year, lots of first lap incidents :(

Not real sure who I want to see in the 2nd seat ?!

#27 MuMu

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Posted 02 May 2001 - 06:24

Originally posted by Mrv
Trust me, Ferrari have no interest in Coulthard whatsoever. He is not a driver that meets their demands.


Too true - the Ferrari application form has some sections that DC will fail!

a. Have you ever won a race?
b. Do you have the ability to occasionally outrace and outqualify your team-mate, no matter who?
c. Are you ashamed of wearing stupid red wigs in public?

If you answered 'yes' to any of the above questions, your application will not be considered.

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Posted 02 May 2001 - 07:25

DC will stay with McLaren, I think. He has been along time there
sure, but his performance this year and MH's bad luck could elevate him to be their #1.
At Ferrari he would not be able to cope with MS.

Button is probably the man for Ferrari, he has some experience
with a good car - Williams 2000 and by the way , even experience
with a Schumacher.
As another possibility Raikkonen as young driver could be a hope
for the future of the Reds.

Trulli or Fisicella have had their chances, but they never
made enough impression.

#29 man from martinlaakso

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Posted 02 May 2001 - 07:37

I think, that DC will never drive a Ferrari. His fights with MS are too well remembered, and even if MS is no more driving a Ferrari, the tifosi will not tolerate David in a red car. Nick Heidfeld is a competent young driver, but he has a link with McLaren, and it is very probable that in 2-3 years time he will be a Mac driver. Button is a possibility, but I am not sure, that he wants to be a #2 driver in Ferrari. Kimi Raeikkoenen has a Ferrari contact, without it he would not have got his superlisence. MS has been very positive towards Kimi, and if RB will be kicked out after this season, Kimi is a good prospect for #2 driver in Ferrari. He is so young, that a role as a supporting driver will not hurt his career, after all he could learn a lot from MS. For marketing reasons JB is a better choice than KR, but I think, that Kimi has more talent. I think, that Kimi is more talented than either MS or MH, but naturally pure talent is not going to make a champion. You must have a cool head, also. So far Kimi's head has been enough cool.

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Posted 02 May 2001 - 07:44

How about Jean Alesi & Schuey. Schuey for once will get some real competition from someone who is probably as good if not better than him in almost all race conditions with added advantage of Alesi's blistering starts.

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Posted 02 May 2001 - 09:30

Ferrari Looking at Raikkonen?
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Ferrari President, Luca di Montezemolo has admitted that the team is trying to investigate their options as list the list of possibilities continue to grow. Latest rumours that Montezemolo is considering Sauber's Kimi Raikkonen.

The other list of possibilities are Jenson Button, David Coulthard, Jacques Villeneuve and Juan Pablo Montoya and now Kimi Raikkonen. Michael Schumacher contract is set to expire at the end of 2002, though nothing is confirmed in writing, it is said that he will stay until 2005.

Raikkonen is tipped to replace Rubens Barrichello who's contract ends at the end of this season. After a fairly disappointing run, it is unlikely he will be re-signed.

Raikkonen's manager admitted that Ferrari Technical Director Ross Brawn has inquired about hiring Raikkonen. The only down-side is that Raikkonen is contracted at Sauber for three years. Raikkonen said that he would also like some more experience before he moves to such a large and successful team.

#32 schumigal

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Posted 02 May 2001 - 12:23

Ferrari are sure interested in a lot of drivers. How many of them are they planning to hire? Or are they making plans for the next 10 years? :)

I wouldn't be suprised if DC joins Ferrari. Seems that he's a bit fed up with having to support Mika the past few years. Then again, who knows, his position might be strengthened with the fact that he's now the strongest contender for MS for WDC at Mclaren.

With Montoya, i think he would stay at Williams. Williams pretty much launched his f1 career despite his successful cart career. It will be rather ungrateful to move to another team after a year, and plus Williams is on the rise and would be great for his career to be in a team that has been top team for the last decade. So i expect him to stay in WIlliams for a few years then maybe move to Ferrari (likely after MS's retirement) to be their no 1 driver.

JVi, sadly i think he will stay in BAR. BAR is improving and it is his creation (well, he's one of the main player in the team initiation) and he would like to reap the rewards from his hardwork. It's 3 years but if he can win a WDC with a new team, he would be a considered as a legend, oh okay maybe one of the greats if not legend.

Kimi, yeah in some regrads, i do think he should stay at Sauber and do driver development for another year or so b4 moving to top teams and blitzing the world with his impressive form and talent. Same goes with Button. They are young and can afford to stay in teams gainning experience and that will be good for their career IMO.

Fischi, hmmm, would probably be a likely candidate in Ferrari since he's an experienced driver, fast although a bit inconsistent but maybe this is due to motivational problems? BUt i am not sure of his position with the Renault team, he may want to stay on with Renault due to loyalty or hopes of Renault making it big time in a few years time.

Rubens, well i think that's as fast as he can get. He's a good racer but Michael is just better. Perhaps we all have been unfair criticising him when he is performing to his optimum (I dun have any concrete proof on this so it's just my opinions).


#33 Mrv

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Posted 02 May 2001 - 14:05

For 2002 driving Lineup At Ferrari

1. Michael Schumacher

2. Kimi or Heidfeld


DC will never drive a Ferrari. Employees at Maranello had a good laugh the other day when this was printed in the press. All kinds of jokes were thrown at DC. They do not regard Dc is a top F1 driver.

The Button rumor is just that. He will not drive for Ferrari at this time, but maybe in the future. At Maranello they have high regards for this fellow.

NO, MICHAEL IS NOT GOING TO TOYOTA or some other team, he will be with Ferrari for the rest of his career. Rubens is history at Ferrari.

#34 tombr

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Posted 02 May 2001 - 14:56

They should have kept Irvine. Or they should have taken Salo rather that RB.

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Posted 02 May 2001 - 15:12

I think any driver going to Ferrari without the "dream" team is just asking for trouble. Yeah they get to say they have driven for Ferrari, but without the team, Ferrari would still be chasing a podium finish. IMHO. Ferrari should be looking for some replacement that are on par with the current team so that they are not left with the rug being pulled from under their feet.:)