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#501 pdac

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Posted Yesterday, 17:20

This argument would hold more water if we hadn't just come out of almost a quarter of a century of live free-to-air coverage of the whole F1 season. Fact is we had a system that worked for everyone, commercial contracts on FTA stations guaranteed free access for the fans, huge global TV audiences which drove healthy commercial sponsorship deals for teams and drove high levels of interest to provide circuits with healthy ticket sales, it also provided a ton of cash for the commercial rights holders in exchange for very little outlay. It worked for everyone, this paywall nonsense only works for Liberty.

 

I repeat, I did not do the deal - Bernie did. He never had any time for fans who were not wiling to pa. He wanted money and he got it. He could have easily sold non-exclusive coverage and made a reasonable amount of money, but he wanted to maximise the income.

 

But who can blame him? That was his job - to maximise the income. If that meant ditching the long-term fans for ones that would stump up cash, he didn't mind. And this is what is happening now. They will lose me as a fan, they will lose others. But they will still make the money because others will stump up. Less fans is not a problem as long as those fans pay big.

 

You say that it worked for everyone. Perhaps so. But now (then think) it works better for them - and that's what counts. Remember that this is not the FIA or the teams - it's FOM. FOM are the commercial side of F1 - they will only be concerned about the fan base, viewers and grand prix attendances if it affects their revenue. But also remember that their revenue comes from hosting fees and TV contracts - not from bums on seats.

 

We're all pretty pissed off that the coverage has largely disappeared behind a paywall, but be thankful that you can get something for no extra cost It's not a step backwards for FOM, it's only a step backwards for F1 and the fans,



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#502 Clatter

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Posted Yesterday, 17:51

I just don’t understand why we’re going backwards. F1 was one of the last major sports to go HD and now a few years later the ‘worlds most technologically advanced’ sport is only available in SD? Rubbish. There’s sports doing 50FPS, 4K streams these days and this is what F1 should be aiming for. The highlights should be ‘mere’ HD in comparison.

I don’t have a problem with watching content in SD if that was the best they had at the time (Those old 80s Le Mans reviews are fantastic) but to go back to 20th century picture quality in 2018 isn’t on.

At least Formula E has it right. All races in HD and available to watch on the best VOD service in the UK for weeks after the race is broadcast.

 


Get the facts right. Its not only available in SD. Its available in HD or UHD, but at a price.

#503 Sterzo

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Posted Yesterday, 18:52

I repeat, I did not do the deal - Bernie did. He never had any time for fans who were not wiling to pa. He wanted money and he got it. He could have easily sold non-exclusive coverage and made a reasonable amount of money, but he wanted to maximise the income.

 

But who can blame him? That was his job - to maximise the income.

That was his job? What an odd perspective. Motor racing existed before Bernie Ecclestone. Nobody begged him to take on the "job." He manouevred to control it so he could exploit it financially. That's the root of the current mess.



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Posted Yesterday, 19:42

I don't think free coverage was ever demanded by tobacco companies. F1 was gradually becoming more popular in the 70s and various circuits and local broadcasters had begun live broadcasts. What Bernie did for 1982 was get all the broadcast contracts under one umbrella so that the BBC (or any other broadcast company) only had to strike one deal to get all the F1 races. That made Bernie even more rich than he was and for something like 20 years it worked for F1 too. 

 

Booze advertising is severely restricted in most markets including all over the EU, so the alcohol companies can certainly get their logos more exposure than if they stuck to traditional advertising on TV. 

 

I think the concern is not Channel 4 HD in 2019 but the future. The C4 deal thus far is only for 2019. Beyond that it might go to Sky's Pick channel which is not available in HD. Personally I doubt this will cause my death.



#505 pdac

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Posted Yesterday, 21:09

That was his job? What an odd perspective. Motor racing existed before Bernie Ecclestone. Nobody begged him to take on the "job." He manouevred to control it so he could exploit it financially. That's the root of the current mess.

 

How he came to be in the job is irrelevant to the fact that, once in that job, his objective was to maximise profit (mainly for himself).



#506 Dalton007

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Posted Yesterday, 21:43

How he came to be in the job is irrelevant to the fact that, once in that job, his objective was to maximise profit (mainly for himself).

 

He offered the teams to invest in the monetisation of the TV rights. They turned him down.

 

I don't see the problem with what Bernie did. He saw an opportunity to monetise it, too bad no one else in F1 shared that vision at that time. 



#507 crooky369

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Posted Yesterday, 23:04


Get the facts right. Its not only available in SD. Its available in HD or UHD, but at a price.


Correct. I meant the FTA coverage on the possibility that the highlights do end up on the SD Pick TV channel. Next year is fine as we have Channel 4 HD but after that who knows.

I subscribed to Sky in the past when F1 first moved over to being split between Sky and BBC and to be honest it wasn’t worth the money. It was about £400 a year for 20 F1 races and being able to watch all sorts of racing on Motors and Le Mans on Eurosport. But beyond that I was still mostly watching things that would be on Freeview. Now Motors TV is online only and a Eurosport pass can be bought for Le Mans so I’d have even less reason to fork out all that money.