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McLaren MCL33 - With Actual New Car on p19!


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#1 Maustinsj

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Posted 29 January 2018 - 19:20

Discuss. With more specific detail:

 

 

Crash Test passed.

 

https://twitter.com/...857258751188992

 

 

 

 

 

McLaren is set to unveil its MCL33 charger on February 23, but Vandoorne says he has already had his first taste of the car in the simulator.

"I had my first day in the simulator and with the engineers and we were able to discuss a lot about the new car," he said.

"I had my first feeling of the 2018 car -- the change (to Renault) will be great for us. Everyone is motivated to start testing and see what we can do on the track.

"We will know a little more about how the season will unfold in Barcelona," Vandoorne added.

 

 

 

McLaren has overcome Renault packaging headaches

https://www.motorspo...018-car-996655/

 

 

McLaren set to announce new sponsors
http://www.racer.com...ce-new-sponsors

 

 

History assembles. #MCL33 launch 23.02.18. #BeBrave @McLarenF1 

 

 

Very small, sneak preview of team kit.

https://twitter.com/...8084864/photo/1

 


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#2 balmybaldwin

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Posted 29 January 2018 - 20:42

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#3 balmybaldwin

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Posted 29 January 2018 - 20:44

More seriously.... I'm really looking forward to this season. I'm not expecting the world, but to have the reliability and performance in the back that redbull had last year would have made a world of difference, and at least I look forward to Mclaren being able to compete



#4 Mc_Silver

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Posted 29 January 2018 - 21:09

This year will be the beginning of a new and exciting era for McLaren. I hope, this time it will be a successful one. McLaren belongs to front of the grid and I feel this year they'll be able to deliver big time and we will see some nice surprises through the end of the year. Exciting times ahead for all McLaren and F1 fans. :up:

Bring it on! #BelieveInMcLaren ...

Edited by Mc_Silver, 29 January 2018 - 21:57.


#5 Graveltrappen

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Posted 29 January 2018 - 21:34

Does ‘I’ve tried the car in the simulator’ really qualify as anything? I know these machines are hyper-smart but I find that ludicrous.

#6 CPR

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Posted 29 January 2018 - 21:34

While I have done various graphs and so on of McLaren's performance, I wasn't that motivated to go deep into the analysis for most of 2017. I hope we can be in some nice tactical battles this year where I can use my graphs to explain certain things... though as before there'll only be so much I can do with the limited available data. It would be really cool to be able to use the graphs to explain just how/why we were able to pull off that lucky podium / win / whatever :)



#7 RainyAfterlifeDaylight

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Posted 29 January 2018 - 21:38

First

http://forums.autosp...3/#entry8231852

 

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#8 Joseki

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Posted 29 January 2018 - 21:41

Unlocking potential

 

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#9 Nicktendo86

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Posted 29 January 2018 - 22:19

*sniffs air* ahhhh, new car thread smell. Can't beat it.

#10 NixxxoN

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Posted 29 January 2018 - 23:30

Renault power to bring back Alonso glory days?

PS: 10th!


Edited by NixxxoN, 29 January 2018 - 23:30.


#11 Clatter

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Posted 29 January 2018 - 23:37

Does ‘I’ve tried the car in the simulator’ really qualify as anything? I know these machines are hyper-smart but I find that ludicrous.

The bulk of the development work is done on the simulator these days, so yes it does mean something.

#12 mclarensmps

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 03:57

*sniffs air* ahhhh, new car thread smell. Can't beat it.

 

Hopefully we see more of you around this year, too!



#13 XAXIXAX

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 07:08

If one can dream, I'm imagining Alonso top 5 come Albert Park.. our rivals feeling the pressure again.. watch out, we're back!

#14 XAXIXAX

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 07:10

Oh, and I don't care about the livery, intra team rivalry, I just want us to be often top 5 finishers

#15 sladealonso

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 07:49

I just can't wait to see Alonso spraying the champagne again!

#16 argiriano

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 08:04

Ok, let's start the most important discussion - THE LI-VE-RY!!!  :love:  :lol:

 

PS: 16th...  :cat:


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#17 Giz

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 08:20

I'd love to know the sim times when they put the data for the renault engine into last years car

#18 KinkyMasta

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 10:49

Ok, let's start the most important discussion - THE LI-VE-RY!!!  :love:  :lol:

 

PS: 16th...  :cat:

 

I hope they go full papaya orange like in the Indy 500.

 

Last year's one looked like something I could have drawn in MS Paint.



#19 V8 Fireworks

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 10:53

Does ‘I’ve tried the car in the simulator’ really qualify as anything? I know these machines are hyper-smart but I find that ludicrous.

 

The simulator is an accurate representation of how the car performs.  :)



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#20 Owen

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 11:23

It's now official. @alo_oficial to race at Le Mans and other WEC rounds for Toyota in 2018

@NobleF1 12 minutes ago

 

Official statement:

https://www.mclaren....e-mans-and-wec/


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#21 Oblivion

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 11:54

Oi! The new topic, at last :)



#22 Danyy

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 11:59

To the MCL33 thread
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#23 PayasYouRace

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 12:03

Credit to Fernando for doing other stuff outside his F1 commitments.

#24 TcAn

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 12:05

It wasn't started by Disgrace. Looks promising. ))



#25 RECKLESS

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 12:18

If McLaren come out on top, will Nando stay for all races?

#26 kosmos

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 15:42

Review of the Amazon documentary.

 

https://www.f1fanati...nal-year-honda/



#27 Owen

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 15:58

Review of the Amazon documentary.

 

https://www.f1fanati...nal-year-honda/

don't have Amazon. But I'm not upset, given how painful it will be.  :well:



#28 Anja

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 16:32

As a Renault fan I look forward to sharing any engine-related anguish with you guys   ;)



#29 Nicktendo86

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 16:54

I thankfully have access to Amazon Prime and, as painful as it will be to watch, I can't wait. I am sure it will be fascinating.

#30 CPR

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 17:06

As a Renault fan I look forward to sharing any engine-related anguish with you guys   ;)

 

On that particular subject, fingers crossed for a boring and uneventful year   ;)



#31 Maustinsj

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 17:10

As a person who gets Amazon Prime for free for a month every so often, I activated this month to watch!

 

I expect it will be like a Greek tragedy unfolding before my eyes...



#32 TomNokoe

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 17:17

Maybe I'm looking into it too much, but Alonso doing WEC only tells me that once again, 2018 will be more transition, rather than terrific.

#33 LuckyStrike1

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 17:37

It looks fast 



#34 pacificquay

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 17:43

Maybe I'm looking into it too much, but Alonso doing WEC only tells me that once again, 2018 will be more transition, rather than terrific.

 

Why? He's not missing any Grands Prix...



#35 nosecone

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 18:17

I am so hyped. I think it's gonna have 4 wheels and a steering wheel



#36 Timothy

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 18:50

Maybe I'm looking into it too much, but Alonso doing WEC only tells me that once again, 2018 will be more transition, rather than terrific.

 

Agreed...what confuses me though is the sudden overoptimistic vibe, we went from aiming for P4 in the CWC (which is realistic) to spraying champain on the podium. 

 

Personally, I'd be pleasantly surprised if came to within 0.3-0.4s of the best Red Bull come Q3.



#37 ZOne

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 18:55

AMuS has a good piece on suspension developments over the recent years and FIAs directives to prevent it. I won't translate it all, but it's worth a read. The interesting part regarding McLaren is at the end. Towards the end of last season there was discussion about a major change of suspension rules to stop the ongoing game of teams exploiting loopholes and FIA trying to stop them. In these discussions Mercedes favored going for active suspensions, Ferrari wanted "Old School" simplicity while both Red Bull and McLaren wanted no change. AMuS thinks this means Red Bull and McLaren think they have an advantage under the current rules and game. 

 

https://www.auto-mot...se-6966997.html



#38 Maustinsj

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 20:11

I got lost when it started talking about trolleys.  :confused:



#39 Otaku

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 22:45

Too bad the halo has ruined F1 for me... for a couple of races until it's scrapped. 



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#40 KnucklesAgain

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 22:53

AMuS has a good piece on suspension developments over the recent years and FIAs directives to prevent it. I won't translate it all, but it's worth a read. The interesting part regarding McLaren is at the end. Towards the end of last season there was discussion about a major change of suspension rules to stop the ongoing game of teams exploiting loopholes and FIA trying to stop them. In these discussions Mercedes favored going for active suspensions, Ferrari wanted "Old School" simplicity while both Red Bull and McLaren wanted no change. AMuS thinks this means Red Bull and McLaren think they have an advantage under the current rules and game. 

 

https://www.auto-mot...se-6966997.html

 

I don't quite understand how FIA's current crackdown fits Symmond's recent statement that they want suspension to be one of the performance differentiators (if I understood that right)



#41 WOT

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 23:28

I don't quite understand how FIA's current crackdown fits Symmond's recent statement that they want suspension to be one of the performance differentiators (if I understood that right)

 

Yeah, I was stumped with that too, especially when he (Pat Symonds) referred to tyres.... Tyres, as being suspension. 
 
"Finally is suspension - and by that I mean the way we treat the tyres, the way the teams use the tyres."


#42 IridiumBoy

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 00:32

I really want to see Alonso fighting for victories this year, or even podiums...challenging Hamilton and Vettel with a car as fast as theirs before he retires. I really would love to see which of the three is the fastest at track. Now that Ferrari is close to Mercedes, only McLaren is missing  :clap:



#43 RacingGreen

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 02:32

I really want to see Alonso fighting for victories this year, or even podiums...challenging Hamilton and Vettel with a car as fast as theirs before he retires. I really would love to see which of the three is the fastest at track. Now that Ferrari is close to Mercedes, only McLaren is missing  :clap:

 

 

Pre-season hope is a beautiful thing but don't be too surprised if Red Bull are still the top Renault customer in 2018. It may take a while to get the McRenault marriage to work. I hope they are mixing it at the front by mid season though.

Given Alonso's extra WEC commitments with Toyota it will be a long year for him if he isn't getting some action at the front of the field.



#44 baddog

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 03:02

 

Yeah, I was stumped with that too, especially when he (Pat Symonds) referred to tyres.... Tyres, as being suspension. 
 
"Finally is suspension - and by that I mean the way we treat the tyres, the way the teams use the tyres."

 

One of the principal functions of suspension is to manage tyre angles/movement/loads I guess



#45 PeterScandlyn

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 03:25

The simulator is an accurate representation of how the car performs.  :)

 

Ahhh. Hadn't realised . Been pondering how they knew the chassis was fast and only let down by the p/u?

 

Now I know, it was the simulator. Makes all the difference.....until we get to the track and find the unpalatable truth.....



#46 kumo7

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 05:30

This thread is about BS news actually.



#47 kosmos

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 05:34

Maybe I'm looking into it too much, but Alonso doing WEC only tells me that once again, 2018 will be more transition, rather than terrific.

 

I don't see it that way, Fernando just want to race more after Indy 500, in a way I think doing lemans is a way to find some "racing happiness" in case McLaren fails again, imagine if the only thing he can do this year is F1 and they have problems again, for the fourth year.



#48 baddog

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 05:53

The simulator is an accurate representation of how the car performs.  :)

 

Well, of how it is intended to perform.



#49 MastaKink

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 06:04

This thread is about BS news actually.

 

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#50 Maustinsj

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 07:07

This thread is about BS news actually.


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