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#101 argiriano

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 08:05

To be honest I am afraid of #BeBrave. It is suspicious. I hope Renault PU is doing well.

Heating up the Swingometer™... Nice work!  :up:

 

 

AND it is PANIC time ...

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Darn, you're good!   :p

 

 

PS: I can't imagine what this place will look like if McLaren came up with a

Spoiler
  :rolleyes:  :lol:

 

 

 



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#102 Dennista

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 08:45

If I see a Macca finishing outside of the top 10 one more time I am going to drink a bottle of Jameson, get in my car and drive off a cliff.



#103 sopa

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 09:16

If I see a Macca finishing outside of the top 10 one more time I am going to drink a bottle of Jameson, get in my car and drive off a cliff.

 

Damn! Lol.

 

For your sake I hope they actually finish in the top 10.  :p



#104 RainyAfterlifeDaylight

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 09:24

not fast enough livery :rolleyes: :lol:


First impression is the most important 😇

#105 RainyAfterlifeDaylight

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 09:28

If I see a Macca finishing outside of the top 10 one more time I am going to drink a bottle of Jameson, get in my car and drive off a cliff.


It is too dangerous. Make sure to install Halo on your car before driving off a cliff.

#106 kumo7

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 10:39

If I see a Macca finishing outside of the top 10 one more time I am going to drink a bottle of Jameson, get in my car and drive off a cliff.

At least your are not falling off the cliff because of drink driving, but with a bottle of Jameson.



#107 B Squared

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 10:48

If I see a Macca finishing outside of the top 10 one more time I am going to drink a bottle of Jameson, get in my car and drive off a cliff.

Do they call you Deacon Blues?

#108 RainyAfterlifeDaylight

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 12:06

McLaren's Eric Boullier says the Woking-based outfit is right on schedule with its 2018 car after initially running late in the MCL33's design process

 

A good read

 

Full article: http://en.f1i.com/ne...week-delay.html



#109 CPR

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 12:13

McLaren's Eric Boullier says the Woking-based outfit is right on schedule with its 2018 car after initially running late in the MCL33's design process[/size]
 
A good read
 
Full article: http://en.f1i.com/ne...week-delay.html

 
You beat me to it :)
 
Interesting quote:

"It's only normal for Renault to give reliability the utmost importance, especially with the introduction this year of the new three-engine limit. I need that reliability.

"In the past three years, McLaren has been missing data related to tyre degradation, brake cooling, fuel consumption.

"Now, we can regain a few habits that we had lost. For example, we're doing pit stop practice once again, something we had temporarily discarded in order to work on the engine."



PS 21 days to MCL33 launch

#110 Hamm

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 12:42

Boullier: difference between Reno and Honda 1 second

Edited by Hamm, 02 February 2018 - 12:42.


#111 ar1

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 12:49

Boullier: difference between Reno and Honda 1 second

Would equate to 4th on the grid in Hungary and 6th in Singapore



#112 Hamm

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 13:20

It's a double team of teaser clothes of the show. 👀
https://twitter.com/...409902925074433

#113 argiriano

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 13:34

Would equate to 4th on the grid in Hungary and 6th in Singapore

This 1 second is a bit misleading, but taken literally would have put McLaren in a fight with RBR at least in Spain, Canada, Malaysaia and Mexico, and with Ferrari in Austria and Monaco (where it actually would have been a fight for pole). 



#114 TheRacingElf

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 13:37

It's a double team of teaser clothes of the show.
https://twitter.com/...409902925074433

 

Looks fast!



#115 RainyAfterlifeDaylight

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 13:39

I hope our new Fuel/Lubricant partner is already busy preparing the magic potion.

 

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Edited by RainyAfterlifeDaylight, 02 February 2018 - 13:45.


#116 Joseki

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 14:18

http://www.thebestf1...u-presentacion/

Filming on the 22 at Navarra, then car launch on the 23 online with footage from the filming day, another filming day the 24 at Barcelona.

#117 Dennista

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 14:22

Boullier: difference between Reno and Honda 1 second

 

So still a second off the Merc and Ferraris?



#118 Mc_Silver

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 14:30

So still a second off the Merc and Ferraris?

 

IMO Renault was 0.5 behind Merc in qualifying and closer in race trim.



#119 Danyy

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 14:41

http://www.thebestf1...u-presentacion/

Filming on the 22 at Navarra, then car launch on the 23 online with footage from the filming day, another filming day the 24 at Barcelona.


Circuit_de_Navarra_Supertrackday_2.jpg
Looks fast

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#120 TheRacingElf

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 15:37

Circuit_de_Navarra_Supertrackday_2.jpg
Looks fast

 

That rake!  :love:



#121 Braai52

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 15:47

Boullier: difference between Reno and Honda 1 second

 

..... if he is referring to 2017 engines which I think he is, then this figure could be smaller this year as the F1 engines will start to converge. :smoking: 

So in race trim, we must be there or thereabouts. I don't think there will be a great difference between race mode and quali-mode this year due to 3 engine rule.

Reliability will be KING this year...... just my take in the whole picture.



#122 CPR

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 15:50

http://www.thebestf1...u-presentacion/

Filming on the 22 at Navarra, then car launch on the 23 online with footage from the filming day, another filming day the 24 at Barcelona.


Thanks for posting. Any idea how reliable this site is?

Seems a bit strange to me that they would do filming days so close together. If there is something real to this it could be that one date is a backup or similar.



#123 Mc_Silver

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 16:06

http://www.thebestf1...u-presentacion/

Filming on the 22 at Navarra, then car launch on the 23 online with footage from the filming day, another filming day the 24 at Barcelona.

 

It seems they want to start the tests ready and hopefully they'll be able to put some mileage on the car out of the box.  :up:



#124 TcAn

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 16:39

I don't think this "3 engines rule" is so important. We built some unbeatable penalty records last season and may easily face two or three racing days to introduce two-three more engines. 



#125 jstrains

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 16:48

I think it will be normal for non-Merc teams to take an engine penalty into account here and then...



#126 Nicktendo86

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 20:33

I'm not an orange fan either. But let's see what it looks before we judge.


Really depends on how it's used IMHO, can look classy. Loved the indy 500 car last year for example.

#127 Nicktendo86

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 20:38

Ok I'm hyped, sounds like for the first time in a long time we have a working, functional race team again.

#128 CPR

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 20:44

..... if he is referring to 2017 engines which I think he is, then this figure could be smaller this year as the F1 engines will start to converge. :smoking: 
So in race trim, we must be there or thereabouts. I don't think there will be a great difference between race mode and quali-mode this year due to 3 engine rule.
Reliability will be KING this year...... just my take in the whole picture.

 

I think for the team this year, they'd rather get a few excellent results than a lot of average results. Or putting it another way, I think they would be reasonably happy to sacrifice some unreliability for the chance of podiums or wins, even if it might cost them championship points overall. This is not to say that I think the team will take big risks with reliability either - after all, they wouldn't want to throw away the chance of podiums or wins due to poor reliability.

 

For the championship hopefuls, reliability will be key indeed.



#129 Nicktendo86

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 23:03

With all this be brave talk do we think the team might have taken some Innovative design decisions with the car? Might have some surprises?

#130 Mc_Silver

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Posted 02 February 2018 - 23:32

With all this be brave talk do we think the team might have taken some Innovative design decisions with the car? Might have some surprises?


Let's wait for 20 more days :)

#131 Hamm

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 13:33

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#132 DinocoBlue

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 13:46

^Ahh if only....



#133 Disgrace

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 13:48

Though it would look terrible on the circuit - the orange would only ever be seen from the side.



#134 Stephane

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 16:03

Boullier basically told us pit stop crews worked on the engine ?

 

Thats explains a lot of thingd..  :rotfl:



#135 Danyy

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 16:37

Boullier basically told us pit stop crews worked on the engine ?

Thats explains a lot of thingd.. :rotfl:


Remember all those times during testing when other teams had completed so much mileage they could just endlessly pit stop practice while McLaren was stuck in the garage changing engines? That’s what Eric means.

#136 Dalton007

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 17:10

If Renault have gained a second, what about Merc?  :well:  Hopefully the chassis will make up some time, so maybe 1.5 second gain... 



#137 pup

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 17:39

Boullier basically told us pit stop crews worked on the engine ?

 

Thats explains a lot of thingd..  :rotfl:

Hard to practice pit stops when the car is stranded on track.  

 

Teams don't have dedicated pit crews.  Let's just be grateful that the Honda guys didn't rotate into the crew or we'd have to deal with complaints from Honda boys that McLaren supplied them with slow wheel nuts to make them look bad.


Edited by pup, 03 February 2018 - 17:46.


#138 AustinF1

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 01:37

Another teaser - much more Orange. In fact, nothing but Orange.

https://www.youtube....eature=youtu.be

Hmm...maybe I'm gonna finally get my wish.



#139 kumo7

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 04:16

I kinda like McLaren keeps nice clean silence before the launch, presumably working very hard on the car with no time to waste!  :up:



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#140 Braai52

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 09:27

Hi All!

I read an article where Reno chief "Abiteboul" was of the opinion that the 3 engine rule may work in their favour.

He also refers to oil burning tricks, which the FIA will be clamping down on this year.

 

Were Renault engines burning oil last year??

If not! ...... will this indeed help Reno this year in closing the power gap to Merc and Ferr.

... and by how much, guesses! :smoking:  



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Posted 04 February 2018 - 09:40

McLaren's approach to new challenger.

https://www.autospor...-peaky-2018-car

Nice read!



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Posted 04 February 2018 - 09:51

McLaren's approach to new challenger.
https://www.autospor...-peaky-2018-car
Nice read!


The satisfaction I feel reading McLaren finally able to say everything they couldn’t last year because they were still tied to Honda is awesome. :)

#143 blacky

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 11:22

The satisfaction I feel reading McLaren finally able to say everything they couldn’t last year because they were still tied to Honda is awesome. :)

 

However he doesn't say new things. This approach of searching for max useable DF instead of theoretical peak downforce figures is their agenda since 2015. Also the approach of going for best lap time instead of low DF setup (for the bad engine) is nothing new.



#144 Nicktendo86

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 11:30

The explanation of not trimming the downforce to counter the effects of the power unit is new though, I think.

#145 CPR

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 12:18

The explanation of not trimming the downforce to counter the effects of the power unit is new though, I think.

 

Well, lots of journalists/commentators have been saying it. I'd guess that McLaren have been saying this privately until now.

 

Their reasoning for this is interesting - it's more like they're preparing to make the most of the good times when they come, rather than trying to make the best of the worst times. So the payoff for that approach should be more apparent this year. Hopefully.



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Posted 04 February 2018 - 12:35

They set the car up with a high-ish downforce regardless of the fact it would expose the engine's weakness and meant they would get eaten up on the straights? 6 months ago saying that here would get one run out of town as a conspiracy theorist ;)


Edited by baddog, 04 February 2018 - 12:35.


#147 Disgrace

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 12:36

I guess Honda just expected McLaren to set their car up to eat their tyres and deflect the blame that way.



#148 Ferrari2012

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 13:00

McLaren have the people who can build a very good car no doubt about it but the integration of the Renault wil take time to set up perfectly so I  m expecting to be a 90% full integrate on European race like Barcelona.They will try to understand it has fast as they can in presaison and the mileage will be extremely important for them more than other season to understand the drivability and the relation between the car and PU and also the cooling.There is no doubt that the Renault is more powerful reliable and fuel saving than the Honda...and it s quite good to heard that Renault and McLaren are working closely...Mclaren is not a usine team but it s more than a customer team....Mclaren will clearly help Renault more than Redbull who are pretty sure the last year of partnership with them...Renault doesn't t want anymore to be on the same name as Redbull because of the lack of respect by them...Redbull has not the initiator of the changing name it was Renault...Renault will not give any more information on the second part of the season to them...and Redbull will fall I am pretty sure of it.For me the Pecking order will be Mercedes still in front which is normal...same concept of last year and more powerful engine....Redbull will be ahead of Ferrari who are in trouble because they are so unreliable to repeat a good car and the lost on Allison will be huge...Mclaren will be 4th...because with a far worst engine they compete major time vs Force India and they will clearly be ahead of them and the Dark horse can be Renault who have very smart people s..



#149 Nicktendo86

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 13:26

They set the car up with a high-ish downforce regardless of the fact it would expose the engine's weakness and meant they would get eaten up on the straights? 6 months ago saying that here would get one run out of town as a conspiracy theorist ;)


It wasn't saying that McLaren refused to trim the wings that people objected to, it was the suggestion they were doing so to deliberately show up Honda and make their engine look worse than it was. Interesting that McLaren are now giving their explanation and it makes sense.

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 13:35

It wasn't saying that McLaren refused to trim the wings that people objected to, it was the suggestion they were doing so to deliberately show up Honda and make their engine look worse than it was. Interesting that McLaren are now giving their explanation and it makes sense.

 

Or putting it another way, McLaren were focused on their long term rather than the short term.