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#1 aportinga

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 18:52

In what order do you think the teams will line up in terms of points by seasons end?

 

1. Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport

2. Aston Martin Red Bull Racing

3. Scuderia Ferrari

4. Renault Sport Formula One Team

5. Williams Martini Racing

6. McLaren F1 Team

7. Sahara Force India F1 Team

8. Alfa Romeo Sauber F1 Team

9. Haas F1 Team

10. Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda



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#2 Mat13

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 20:16

For what it’s worth:

Mercedes
Ferrari
Red Bull
McLaren
Williams
Force India
Renault
Haas
Sauber
The Safety Car
Marshall’s scooter
David Crofts uptake
Alonso's Deckchair
Toro Rosso

#3 lustigson

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 20:28

  1. Ferrari
  2. Mercedes
  3. Red Bull
  4. McLaren
  5. Force India
  6. Renault
  7. Williams
  8. Sauber
  9. Toro Rosso
  10. Haas


#4 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 20:31

1. Mercedes
2. Ferrari
3. Red Bull
4. McLaren
5. Renault
6. Force India
7. Haas
8. Williams
9. Sauber
10. Toro Rosso

#5 Mc_Silver

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 20:36

1. Mercedes
2. Ferrari
3. Red Bull
4. McLaren
5. Renault
6. Force India
7. Williams
8. Sauber
9. Haas
10. Toro Rosso

#6 PayasYouRace

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 20:56

As a pre-testing prediction:

 

Mercedes

Red Bull

Ferrari

McLaren

Renault

Force India

Williams

Haas

Toro Rosso

Sauber



#7 cyclist

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 21:57

Here is my hopeful prediction:

 

Red Bull

Mercedes

Ferrari

McLaren

Force India

Toro Rosso

Renault

Williams

Sauber

Haas


Edited by cyclist, 21 February 2018 - 21:57.


#8 markelov74

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 21:59

1. Mercedes

2. Red Bull

3. Ferrari

4. McLaren

5. Renault

6. Force India

7. Williams

8. Sauber

9. Haas

10. Toro Rosso



#9 Augurk

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 22:02

Toro Rosso

Mercedes

Force India

Ferrari

Williams

Red Bull

Renault

Haas

McLaren

Sauber

 

You heard it here first. 

 

Oh yeah btw total driver (and livery) switch between TR and Red Bull by race 3 of the season. 



#10 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 22:02

1. Merc
2. Red Bull
3. Ferrari
4. McLaren
5. Force India
6. Renault
7. Williams
8. Sauber
9. Haas
10. Toro Rosso

#11 FullOppositeLock

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 22:04

1. Mercedes
2. Ferrari
3. Red Bull
4. Force India
5. McLaren
6. Renault
7. Williams
8. Haas
9. Toro Rosso
10. Sauber

#12 Anja

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 22:05

1. Red Bull

2. Mercedes

3. Ferrari

4. McLaren

5. Renault

6. Force India

7. Williams

8. Haas

9. Sauber

10. Toro Rosso



#13 jwill189

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 23:28

1. Red Bull

2. Mercedes

3. McLaren

4. Ferrari

5. Renault

6. Force India

7. Sauber

8. Williams

9. Haas

10. Toro Rosso



#14 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 23:34

  1. Mercedes
  2. Ferrari
  3. Red Bull
  4. Force India
  5. McLaren
  6. Reneault
  7. Williams
  8. Haas
  9. Sauber
  10. Toro Rosso

:cool:



#15 jjcale

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 23:52

Toro Rosso

Mercedes

Force India

Ferrari

Williams

Red Bull

Renault

Haas

McLaren

Sauber

 

You heard it here first. 

 

Oh yeah btw total driver (and livery) switch between TR and Red Bull by race 3 of the season. 

 

I'd love to see this .... just to see people's heads explode  :p



#16 RECKLESS

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 02:59

Same as last years' with probably McLaren going up and Toro Rosso going down the order.



#17 Kalmake

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 03:31

Didn't we have this thread already? I can't remember my predictions, but I'm not changing them yet. :stoned:



#18 MaxFerrari

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 22:08

1. Ferrari
2. Mercedes
3. Red Bull
4. McLaren
5. Williams
6. Renault
7. Force India
8. Sauber
9. Toro Rosso
10. Haas

Still hard to say, but feeling like the top will end closer this year, with hopefully more surprising victories than last seasons :)

#19 TennisUK

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 06:51

1. Mercedes
2. Ferrari
3. Red Bull
4. McLaren
5. Renault
6. Force India
7. Williams
8. Sauber
9. Haas
10. Toro Rosso


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#20 sladealonso

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 06:55

1. Mercedes
2. Red Bull
3. Ferrari
4. McLaren
5. Renault
6. Force India
7. Williams
8. Sauber
9. Haas
10. Toro Rosso


Exactly the same as mine Ferrari to be faster than Red Bull but let down by drivers just a small side note

#21 KavB

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 06:56

1. Mercedes
2. Ferrari (but they will win the WDC)
3. Red Bull 
4. Renault
5. Force India
6. McLaren
7. Haas
8. Sauber
9. Williams
10. Toro Rosso



#22 derstatic

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 07:39

Mercedes

Ferrari

Red Bull

McLaren

Renault

Force India

Sauber

Williams

Haas

Toro Rosso



#23 CrashPad

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 07:58

1.Red Bull

2.Mercedes

3.Ferrari

4.McLaren

5.Force India

6.Williams

7.Renault

8.Sauber

9.Toro Rosso

10.Haas



#24 Cig35

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 09:58

 

1. Mercedes
2. Ferrari
3. Red Bull
4. McLaren
5. Renault
6. Force India
7. Sauber
8. Williams
9. Haas
10.Toro Rosso

 

 

Yes, we had the same thread in November/December, and I'm not changing my guesses.



#25 MikeV1987

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 10:03

1. Mercedes

2. Ferrari

3. Red Bull

4. McLaren

5. Force India

6. Renault

7. Haas

8. Williams

9. Sauber

10. Toro Rosso



#26 Laster

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 10:04

Yes, we had the same thread in November/December, and I'm not changing my guesses.

We did indeed have the same thread, now I can make different guesses and which ever one is closer come seasons end I can point at for my ability to predict such things. HAHA!

 

1. Ferrari

2. Mercedes

3. Red Bull

4. Renault

5. Mclaren

6. Force India

7. Williams

8. Sauber

9. Haas

10. Toro Rosso



#27 messy

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 10:35


 

1. Mercedes

2. Red Bull

3. Ferrari

4. McLaren

5. Renault

6. Force India

7. Williams

8. Sauber

9. Haas

10. Toro Rosso

 

yep, that. 


Edited by messy, 23 February 2018 - 10:36.


#28 statman

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 10:50

1. Mercedes
2. Ferrari
3. Red Bull
4. Force India
5. McLaren
6. Renault
7. Williams
8. Haas
9. Toro Rosso
10. Sauber



#29 ArrowsLivery

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 11:47

Mercedes
Ferrari
Renault
Red Bull
Force India
McLaren
Toro Rosso
Haas
Williams
Sauber

#30 JG

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 12:04

  1. Ferrari
  2. Mercedes
  3. Red Bull
  4. Force India
  5. Renault
  6. McLaren
  7. Williams
  8. Sauber
  9. Toro Rosso
  10. Haas


#31 AnR

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 12:06

Red Bull

Ferrari

Mercedes

Force India

Renault

McLaren

Williams

Sauber

Toro Rosso

Haas



#32 Augurk

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 12:17

Almost everyone predicts a step back for Toro Ross. This must all be Honda related. I'm not excluding the possibility of Honda producing a decent engine for once. Would be so funny. 



#33 A.Fant

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 12:19

Underlying car performance:

 

Tier I:

Ferrari

Mercedes

Red Bull

 

Tier 2:

Williams

McLaren

Renault

 

Tier 3:

Force India

Haas

 

Tier 4:

Toro Rosso

Sauber

 

Add driver performance for WCC order:

 

Red Bull

Mercedes

Ferrari (Vettel WDC)

McLaren

Renault

Williams

Force India

Haas

Sauber

Toro Rosso


Edited by A.Fant, 23 February 2018 - 12:21.


#34 Balnazzard

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 12:45

1. Mercedes (once again unfortunately)
2. Ferrari (hopefully much closer than before to Merc)

3.Red Bull
 

After these 3 predictible teams comes the extremely tight upper midfield

 

 

4.Renault

5.Mclaren

6.Force India (or whatever their new name is going to be)

and after these comes the rest that are quite not up to these 3 upper midfield teams but will on constant basis get the last points and none of these last 4 will be clearly behind or ahead of others, so its going to extremely tight all around....quessing what the order with these teams is totally lottery (I think Toro Rosso is going to have hard time atleast first with Honda engines, and with propably one of the weakest driver lineups so thats why they are so low), but Im going to go with:

7.Williams

8.Alfa-Sauber

9.Toro Rosso

10.Haas


Edited by Balnazzard, 23 February 2018 - 12:46.


#35 rodlamas

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 12:46

1. Mercedes

2. Mclaren

3. Ferrari

4. Red Bull

5. Force India

6. Renault

7. Haas

8. Williams.

9. Sauber

10. Toro Rosso



#36 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 12:47

Almost everyone predicts a step back for Toro Ross. This must all be Honda related. I'm not excluding the possibility of Honda producing a decent engine for once. Would be so funny. 

Their drivers really don't inspire confidence, either.

 

All in all, I think its a huge transition year for TR.



#37 ArrowsLivery

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 12:50

Almost everyone predicts a step back for Toro Ross. This must all be Honda related. I'm not excluding the possibility of Honda producing a decent engine for once. Would be so funny.


Honda is an upgrade for Toro Rosso. They were getting zero support from Renault last year. Now they’ll have the full might of Honda backing them up.

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 12:53

Honda is an upgrade for Toro Rosso. They were getting zero support from Renault last year. Now they’ll have the full might of Honda backing them up.

Even if Honda would improve their situation, Im not convinced about either of their drivers....then again I quess you could say same about Williams, but that is why I put both teams quite bit lower this year than last year...

Somehow I have feeling that Haas is gonna do even worse though, that they are gonna be the major "flop" of the season.


Edited by Balnazzard, 23 February 2018 - 12:54.


#39 ArrowsLivery

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 12:55

Even if Honda would improve their situation, Im not convinced about either of their drivers....then again I quess you could say same about Williams, but that is why I put both teams quite bit lower this year than last year...

Somehow I have feeling that Haas is gonna do even worse though.


I think the TR drivers might be on a similar level to Haas’. I would take them over Sauber’s and Williams’ pairs for sure.

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#40 Balnazzard

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 12:59

Well atleast Sauber has Leclerc and I think he is gonna drive excellent rookie season, so there is that...

 

But overall these teams I put on the list 7th-10th have the weakest lineup of drivers.

Now that Renault has Sainz from the start of the season along Hulk, I expect them to be "best of the rest", especially if Renault's big budget is finally going to get the team some results as well. I predicted bit boldy last year already that Renault would make bigger leap than they really did, but maybe this year its gonna happen. Overall I would expect to see tight battles between Renault, Mclaren and Force India drivers throughout the season.


Edited by Balnazzard, 23 February 2018 - 13:02.


#41 messy

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 13:04

Almost everyone predicts a step back for Toro Ross. This must all be Honda related. I'm not excluding the possibility of Honda producing a decent engine for once. Would be so funny. 

 

As much driver-related, to me. Neither Gasly or Hartley showed many flashes of much last season. I hope they surprise this year. Haas may be down there too, but I'd personally rate Grosjean/Magnussen well above Gasly/Hartley.



#42 ar1

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 13:09

1. McLaren

2. Mercedes

3. Ferrari

4. Red Bull

5. Force India

6. Renault

7. Haas

8. Williams

9. Sauber

10. Toro Ross

 

 

:p



#43 useyourloaf

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 14:10

Here to be counted come the end of the season, assuming Renault engines have half decent reliability. With 3 engines, could be a big factor.

 

Mercedes

Red Bull

Ferrari

McLaren

Renault

Force India

Williams

Sauber

Haas

Toro Rosso



#44 UPRC

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 14:16

These predictions always blow up in my face, but I'll give it a go.
 
1. Ferrari
2. Mercedes
3. McLaren
4. Red Bull
5. Force India
6. Renault
7. Haas
8. Williams
9. Toro Rosso
10. Sauber


#45 f12018

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 17:11

Hi first post I think this will be the constructor championship order at the end of the season

 

1. Mercedes 

2. Red Bull

3. Ferrari

4. Mclaren

5. Force India 

6. Renault 

7. Williams 

8. Hass

9. Sauber

10. Toro Rosso



#46 Ferrari2012

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 17:27

1.Ferrari for me they are going on the right direction and the basis last year was a good start.

1.Mercedes it will depend on how much more their concept have more to evolve in the future if they develop the car as fast as last year they will be champion again

3.Redbull they will be near the 2 others but they are much copying other than creating the road on F1 like the 2009-2013 years.

4.Mclaren with the engine they will be near Redbull but with not all the money from Honda they will have not the money to develop the car like RB

5.Renault will continu to develop their project and they will be a force in the future but too short fort this year.

6.Force India will have hard time to keep the 4th place ...despite having the best engine they will fall because mclaren and Renault have in my opinion a better chassis.

7.Williams ,new car new concept but driver are a unknown  so if the williams is not a rocket they will have hard time to be more than the 7th

8.Haas ferrari clone but less development and Grosjean Magnussen make to much fault in my opinion

9.Sauber more money from Ferrari ...Alfa Romeo  :lol: ...they have so much ground to erase from last year , I don t believe they will made a step this year.

10.Torro Rosso they will find what mclaren have endure with the Honda and all the claim about being as fast as the Renault or even stronger ...Honda will face what they deserve ...last on the grid. :down:



#47 f1paul

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 22:38

Red Bull - just my instinct

Ferrari - Vettel may win drivers' but Raikkonen won't be strong enough

McLaren - Renault move is a good one

Mercedes - too much diva

Renault - no mans' land

Force Whatever Name - Not as good as last year

Williams - Decent car but drivers will let down

Alfa Romeo - On the up, Leclerc to shine

Haas - Bad development rate

Toro Rosso - awesome engine!

 

 

You decide if this is from best to worst or worst to best.  :p 



#48 cyclist

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 22:46

As much driver-related, to me. Neither Gasly or Hartley showed many flashes of much last season. I hope they surprise this year. Haas may be down there too, but I'd personally rate Grosjean/Magnussen well above Gasly/Hartley.

But to be fair to them, they were put in the car late in the season, not much prepared. add to that the strain of terrible reliability (I think those two must have had as many grid penalties as the Maccas) I am not sold on Gasly, but I think Hartley could be a surprise. It would be great to see Honda finally coming out good and them being able to fight in the midfield. I am not sure, but I could imagine Red Bull putting a lot of effort and technical expertise into it to make it work.



#49 cyclist

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 22:48

Will also be interesting to see if McLaren can finally prove the have the best Aero and Chassis. I am not so sure...



#50 balmybaldwin

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 22:57

I'm going for:

 

Ferrari

Mercedes

McLaren

Redbull

Force India

Renault

Haas

Williams

Sauber

STR