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#4001 STRFerrari4Ever

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Posted 26 May 2018 - 12:59

Not sure if we can get pole but we’ll give it a right good go. Hoping we can get on the front row at least

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#4002 SCUDmissile

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Posted 26 May 2018 - 13:07

Might as well limit the damage and get 2nd in qualifying and the race. Decrease the gap between Seb and Lewis.

#4003 xtremeclock

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Posted 26 May 2018 - 13:15

Might as well limit the damage and get 2nd in qualifying and the race. Decrease the gap between Seb and Lewis.

 

Plenty of options for Ferrari if they qualify 2-3...for example when Ricciardo pits they can use the 'second' car to dramatically reduce the pace and form a lovely train....

 

We must thank Max for the strategic flexibility Ferrari will have tomorrow.



#4004 Blackoutjulian

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Posted 26 May 2018 - 13:23

Plenty of options for Ferrari if they qualify 2-3...for example when Ricciardo pits they can use the 'second' car to dramatically reduce the pace and form a lovely train....

We must thank Max for the strategic flexibility Ferrari will have tomorrow.

Wont be surprised if Hamilton or Seb put it on pole

#4005 theflyingwheel

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Posted 26 May 2018 - 13:29

I think the party button will appear in q3 and help ferrari but wont be expecting a pole yet

#4006 Shade

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Posted 26 May 2018 - 13:42

So we have Mad Max battling his way through the field from the back of the grid... Who wants to bet on a SC ruining our race again?



#4007 Jovanotti

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Posted 26 May 2018 - 13:43

^Ferrari has a lapdog though while Ricciardo will be on his own.

#4008 Massa

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Posted 26 May 2018 - 14:04

Bad Quali for Kimi. He had to be in front of Hamilton.

#4009 apoka

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Posted 26 May 2018 - 14:04

P2 and P4 are a good result on this track.

#4010 theflyingwheel

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Posted 26 May 2018 - 14:05

Why do you guys think that Ferrari did better in Monaco last season compared to this, is it because of the shorter wheelbase ?

#4011 Vesuvius

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Posted 26 May 2018 - 14:05

Why do you guys think that Ferrari did better in Monaco last season compared to this, is it because of the shorter wheelbase ?


Yes

#4012 Seanspeed

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Posted 26 May 2018 - 14:05

P2 and P4 are a good result on this track.

Yea, it's ok.  But P2 and P3 would have been nicer. 



#4013 Seanspeed

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Posted 26 May 2018 - 14:06

Why do you guys think that Ferrari did better in Monaco last season compared to this, is it because of the shorter wheelbase ?

Absolutely.  This was quite expected, honestly.  The car handles completely differently and has lost pretty much ALL of the wily nimbleness it had last year.  



#4014 Shade

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Posted 26 May 2018 - 14:06

This would've been perfect if Kimi was ahead of Lewis...



#4015 Unicast

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Posted 26 May 2018 - 14:10

Well, at least we are in front of Hamilton... it was obvious we got the max out of the car.

Let's hope for a good race and hopefully in Canada we can again fight for the pole & win.



#4016 nemanja

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Posted 26 May 2018 - 14:12

The result is very good with this year's car. We all knew RB will be on pole. Strategy must be spot on tomorrow and that makes me nervous.


Edited by nemanja, 26 May 2018 - 14:13.


#4017 STRFerrari4Ever

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Posted 26 May 2018 - 14:13

Pole was out of reach but P2 is a good save. Disappointed that Kimi didn’t nail his second Q3 run because he could’ve got Hamilton

#4018 Trust

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Posted 26 May 2018 - 14:14

Exactly. Kimi is sandwiched between 2 Mercs. I have a feeling they will find a way to finish in front of him. Overcut is the way to go.



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Posted 26 May 2018 - 14:17

Exactly. Kimi is sandwiched between 2 Mercs. I have a feeling they will find a way to finish in front of him. Overcut is the way to go.

 

Overcut will be impossible with hypersofts. They will be done



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#4020 Trust

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Posted 26 May 2018 - 14:19

Overcut will be impossible with hypersofts. They will be done

Still better than ultras which are worthless. As Lewis said it.



#4021 Seanspeed

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Posted 26 May 2018 - 14:23

Overcut will be impossible with hypersofts. They will be done

How long they last will definitely determine how things play out.  

 

Hope Ferrari have some confidence in their data on that.  I expect Ricciardo will be able to pull out a bit of a gap and I think Vettel will be able to pull out a bit of a gap on Lewis, letting Vettel kind of run his own race.  I actually dont want Ferrari to get too cheeky and go aggressive on strategy for the win with some early undercut or anything.  Could be risky, especially if we get a SC afterwards.  Finishing ahead of Lewis in 2nd would be good enough at a track we knew we wouldn't be strongest at.  

 

Wouldn't mind seeing them be a bit more aggressive with Kimi's strategy though, to try and get him ahead of Lewis if he can stick with him in the 1st stint(which I think he'll be able to).


Edited by Seanspeed, 26 May 2018 - 14:24.


#4022 apoka

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Posted 26 May 2018 - 14:26

Overcut will be impossible with hypersofts. They will be done

 

I think an RB could overcut a Ferrari as it's more gentle on tyres, but not the other way round. 

 

My biggest fear is the strategy team. I hope they won't be given the opportunity to screw up tomorrow.


Edited by apoka, 26 May 2018 - 14:27.


#4023 trickle

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Posted 26 May 2018 - 14:26

How long they last will definitely determine how things play out.  

 

Hope Ferrari have some confidence in their data on that.  I expect Ricciardo will be able to pull out a bit of a gap and I think Vettel will be able to pull out a bit of a gap on Lewis, letting Vettel kind of run his own race.  I actually dont want Ferrari to get too cheeky and go aggressive on strategy for the win with some early undercut or anything.  Could be risky, especially if we get a SC afterwards.  Finishing ahead of Lewis in 2nd would be good enough at a track we knew we wouldn't be strongest at.  

This will be the first race, where RB can show their real race pace without excuses. So I guess Ric will be able to open quickly a gap, and since it looks RB has the best tire wear by far, I don't see how Ferrrai will have a chance tomorrow. Only some chaos will may help them - and of course a magic start.



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Posted 26 May 2018 - 14:27

This will be the first race, where RB can show their real race pace without excuses. So I guess Ric will be able to open quickly a gap, and since it looks RB has the best tire wear by far, I don't see how Ferrrai will have a chance tomorrow. Only some chaos will may help them - and of course a magic start.

Red bull has had difficulties on races so far this season to get tyres work early on, lets see what happends tomorrow.
Perhaps Ferrari use Kimi? If Ricciardo pits first and comes behind Kimi.

Edited by Vesuvius, 26 May 2018 - 14:29.


#4025 trickle

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Posted 26 May 2018 - 14:31

Red bull has had difficulties on races so far this season to get tyres work early on, lets see what happends tomorrow.

I only remember that in Baku, the others races they were stuck behind cars and weren't able to run their own speed. It will for sure be very interessting to see, how Ric will handle it from pole tomorrow. As I said, I expect an easy race for him, if nothing comes in his way (errors, SC and so on).



#4026 Seanspeed

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Posted 26 May 2018 - 14:36

Red bull has had difficulties on races so far this season to get tyres work early on, lets see what happends tomorrow.
Perhaps Ferrari use Kimi? If Ricciardo pits first and comes behind Kimi.

I doubt Kimi will be *that* far back to be able to use him like this.  But for sure, Ferrari would do that if it's a possibility.  

 

I have a feeling Ferrari wont have the luxury of holding out, though.  Nobody is going to want to pit early.  Ricciardo will stay out as long as it's viable to do so.  More likely that Ferrari have to pit Vettel before that.  And if Kimi is close behind Lewis, Ferrari may want to pit Kimi early to try and get him ahead of Lewis, or at least force Mercedes to protect Lewis by pitting him early, which leaves Vettel more comfortable.  

 

But I dont know.  This is all assuming they all come out of the first corner in the same order, which may not even be the case. 



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Posted 26 May 2018 - 16:20

This way for part 2.