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McLaren MCL33 -- Part II


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#51 MastaKink

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:00

I'm not in front of the garage anymore unfortunately. But that could be a good shout. He was trundling around on the last lap before stopping and it sounded like the car was dying but maybe he was out of fuel and just coasting back. It would explain the reported fast lap times (I haven't seen the exact times).

 

Cheers for the updates.  :up:



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#52 jstrains

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:01

How about Force India? They are behind the McLaren-Renault-Haas group this year?



#53 GoRacing

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:03

I'm not in front of the garage anymore unfortunately. But that could be a good shout. He was trundling around on the last lap before stopping and it sounded like the car was dying but maybe he was out of fuel and just coasting back. It would explain the reported fast lap times (I haven't seen the exact times).

Don't think he would have run out of fuel, he was in the pits for a fairly long time if all he had to do was refuel. All this is wishful thinking! 



#54 statman

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:03

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#55 Mc_Silver

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:04

Boullier: "We hope be in middle grid in Australia: :/

 

Under promise over deliver.   ;)  I don't think saying we will be in front of Red Bull in Australia would be realistic and wise thing to do. They will be fighting with Renault, Haas and potentially Force India (they plan a big upgrade for Australia) for 4th place at the beginning of the season. 



#56 currupipi

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:05

Boullier: "We hope be in middle grid in Australia: :/

so we really do suck

#57 STIGG

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:06

Don't think he would have run out of fuel, he was in the pits for a fairly long time if all he had to do was refuel. All this is wishful thinking!


Whatever it was, thankfully they got it sorted a lot faster than the earlier stoppages.

#58 Insane111

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:08

:eek: Nickname for this car should be El Scorcho.



#59 Mc_Silver

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:08

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This car is really really slim.  :eek:



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#60 Nicktendo86

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:13

Well I for one am happy they have been ambitious. I'd take an ambitious team that need to get the car to work over one playing it safe.

#61 kosmos

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:16

Boullier declarations.

 

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#62 ZOne

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:17

Well I for one am happy they have been ambitious. I'd take an ambitious team that need to get the car to work over one playing it safe.

 

I agree. But 1. they may have underestimated how important a full car dyno is for "going ambitious". And 2. unfortunately the performance doesn't show any fruits of that ambition. Let's hope they have to dial the engine down because of the other problems, which they will get fixed eventually. 



#63 sanchez854

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:17

So basically they went with the aggressive route to compete in the front and that is why they are having reliability issues. And then they are expecting to be in the middle of the grid in Australia.

#64 Nytelotus

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:18

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That papaya really highlights the scorch marks.. maybe that was the reason for choice of colour  :p :drunk:



#65 f1rules

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:19

Well I for one am happy they have been ambitious. I'd take an ambitious team that need to get the car to work over one playing it safe.

 

yeah  :up:  anyday, i do expect them to be 4th in Melbourne, nice to hear boullier defending and saying they went aggressive, with a last moment, new engine partner, being aggressive will be even more risky, i just hope its not mp4-18 risky :-) and that they reasonably quick can sort it out without to many compromises to the original design/concept


Edited by f1rules, 09 March 2018 - 16:21.


#66 Grundle

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:20

Really looks like the car has been tightly packaged but not in a clever way.
In a “let’s shove everything in as tightly as we can and cross fingers” way.

#67 Vesuvius

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:21

People really thought McLaren would be higher on the pecking order than middle of the group? :o their chassis never was as good as they claimed it to be and as we can see, PU change doesn't automatically make them top 3 team unfortunately. I'm sure (and hope) they will eventually be close to the top teams this season.

#68 Cyanide

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:23

I expected a bit more than midfield, to be honest.

 

At least they have issues they now have control over, whereas with Honda they were powerless to fix the primary problem. They can bounce back from this, just the pressure will be quite extreme to get it done quickly.



#69 Nando1799

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:26

I dont know it seems like Mclaren has no pace at all... 



#70 f1rules

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:30

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#71 MastaKink

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:32

Still a looker...



#72 Borko

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:33

It would be unrealistic to expect anything better than 4th in WCC at the end of the season. If they manage to achieve that, season is successful.



#73 Nytelotus

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:36

It would be unrealistic to expect anything better than 4th in WCC at the end of the season. If they manage to achieve that, season is successful.

 

Even 4th may be a long shot if tests are anything to go by. Renault are no slouches, and if it's tight come end of season..... they are the ones suplying the engines.


Edited by Nytelotus, 09 March 2018 - 16:40.


#74 mclarensmps

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:37

Behind Mercedes, Ferrari and Red Bull does put McLaren in midfield... The question is, can they catch up to, and beat Red Bull?



#75 Disgrace

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:45

It feels like McLaren are trying to be a top team, but they're just not ready. McLaren will be redesigning parts while others will be optimising what they already have. I think it's fair to say they are in trouble. It's not just set-up time they're behind on.



#76 BertoC

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:45

We ended last year in the midfield so... disapointing expectations, but fingers crossed and always positive.



#77 GoRacing

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:46

1.17.784 on a 4-lap run on Hypersoft tyres. 



#78 Oblivion

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:47

With Alonso "quali" result today I'd say we are not far from Ferrari at least...



#79 mclarensmps

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:47

We ended last year in the midfield so... disapointing expectations, but fingers crossed and always positive.

 

I'd barely call that the midfield though... 



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#80 ZOne

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:49

1.17.784 on a 4-lap run on Hypersoft tyres. 

 

 

Sainz  Renault   1m18.092s was just 10 minutes before, same conditions.


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#81 Kimiraikkonen

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:50

17,7 HS don't so bad. Encouraging :)

#82 Ferrari2012

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:50

If it s true that they think they are in the middle of the pak...Bouiller and some other should be off the team .simple as that..i am a bit shok :rolleyes:



#83 damager21

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:51

Few drivers out for Quali run on Hypersoft, Alonso tops the charts with 1:16.720  :clap:  :clap:  :clap:
 
First driver to dip into 1:16s this entire testing... but his time is revoked as he cut the chicane  :smoking:  :smoking:  :smoking:

Edited by damager21, 09 March 2018 - 16:57.


#84 chessycat

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:52

"17:45. Another improvement by Alonso - a 1m17.784s. Drama in Spain as we enter the final 15 minutes."

¿Drama? ¿In Spain? :stoned: Just the opposite. Here we have never stopped believing in Fernando  ;)



#85 Kershy

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:53

I really think McLaren will be 4th fastest in melbourne, not by alot but enough.



#86 sanchez854

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:53

Behind Mercedes, Ferrari and Red Bull does put McLaren in midfield... The question is, can they catch up to, and beat Red Bull?


Recent years there was a huge gap between the top three and others so let's hope this won't be the case if McLaren is the 4th best team.

I have really high hopes regarding to updates for Melbourne. PP said that they are working on it more than 3 months, and according to what we have seen so far car has built for aero guys have as much as playing ground possible.

#87 f1rules

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:53

It feels like McLaren are trying to be a top team, but they're just not ready. McLaren will be redesigning parts while others will be optimising what they already have. I think it's fair to say they are in trouble. It's not just set-up time they're behind on.

 

i think a new engine cover and maybe some added ducting will not take away that much, they have a new package on the way they worked on for a long time, so that will be really interesting, since they didnt seem to bring one new aero part here, bring on Melbourne 



#88 Kershy

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:54

what

 

Alonso McLaren MCL33 1:16.720
 

 

must have cut the chicken


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#89 Brawn BGP 001

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:54

16.720, please stand lol



#90 Oblivion

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:54

The cards are on the table. That was in style...



#91 Mc_Silver

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:54

Quali run by Alonso. With about 10mins to the end of this session, they won't be doing 100+ laps. Kimi's lap was almost 5hrs back so McLaren still has a long way to go when compared to Ferrari 

 

 

We always repeat but some people don't understand. Times mean nothing! McLaren has recovered well despite an engine change! Most laps among Renault engines!



#92 Radoye

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:54

If it s true that they think they are in the middle of the pak...Bouiller and some other should be off the team .simple as that..i am a bit shok :rolleyes:

 

Why? Did you expect McL to lap everyone else and easily walk both titles this year? Realistically 4th place in WCC is the best they could hope for (considering everything), and the success or failure of this season should be measured by how many points are they behind RBR.

 

And 4th out of 10 is the midfield.



#93 Mc_Silver

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:55

First lap in 1.16s from Alonso. that was cool :)



#94 jstrains

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:55

:D

#95 ERICTOPF1

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:55

What?????

Is it real???

No its not actually

Edited by ERICTOPF1, 09 March 2018 - 16:57.


#96 Borko

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:55

WHO'S LAUGHING NOW?

#97 Mc_Silver

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:55

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#98 Brawn BGP 001

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:57

deleted sadly, it was fun while it lasted



#99 Quickshifter

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:57

LOL

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#100 Borko

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 16:57

Lol. My bad. Hehe. I am sorry. I got carried away. A good 2 minutes though :)