Sebastian Vettel vs. Kimi Räikkönen 2018
#4201
Posted 29 July 2018 - 14:55
#4203
Posted 29 July 2018 - 15:01
But surely you can see Ferrari don't at least intend to screw Kimi all the time, they screw Seb too.
There is no malice there, just complete incompetence!
As they proved at Hockenheim, they actually just don't have the brains to think of that kind of malicious tactics.
Can we be angry together?!
Great stuff by Kimi this weekend, please keep that contract away from him until the end of the year if he is going to drive like this!
Seb not so much, I have to give this weekend to Kimi.
Bring on Spa, and maybe new engine and strategy upgrades.
Edited by SCUDmissile, 29 July 2018 - 15:02.
#4204
Posted 29 July 2018 - 15:02
Fifth straight podium for Kimi. Give that old man a new contract for 2019.
#4205
Posted 29 July 2018 - 15:09
#4206
Posted 29 July 2018 - 15:11
If we dont sign Raikkonen to another year then its bigger **** up than our mistakes we did today to him.
Kimi has proven more than enough that he still got it.
Edited by LivingHitokiri, 29 July 2018 - 15:15.
#4207
Posted 29 July 2018 - 15:14
Both were good today, but the team messed up the pistops. What a shame!
#4208
Posted 29 July 2018 - 15:16
I think VET won it the duel today on Lap 1. Was important to end the bad series against Kimi. Hope for no penalty for him. Team should not hesitate to use team orders. You saw what the other guys are ready to do.
Overall, bad strategy, good result from the drivers
#4209
Posted 29 July 2018 - 15:18
Nice lift from Kimi when Seb&Bot crashed.
I did wonder how kimi stayed behind.
#4210
Posted 29 July 2018 - 15:19
#4211
Posted 29 July 2018 - 15:22
The exact reason why I'm rooting for Hamilton in the WDC. Bottas' was plain **** today, but at least he seems to get an equal chance whereas strategic and technical screw-ups are regular for KR.Team should not hesitate to use team orders.
Edited by Jovanotti, 29 July 2018 - 15:23.
#4212
Posted 29 July 2018 - 15:23
Not sure if serious.The exact reason why I'm rooting for Hamilton in the WDC. Bottas' was plain **** today, but at least he seems to get an equal chance whereas strategic and technical screw-ups are regular for KR.
He was literally called a wingman today.
Edited by Diablobb81, 29 July 2018 - 15:23.
#4213
Posted 29 July 2018 - 15:29
Not sure if serious.
He was literally called a wingman today.
Probably because he dropped way back during the first stint.
#4214
Posted 29 July 2018 - 15:32
Very solid from Kimi today... could have finished ahead of Vettel despite doing an extra stop. Vettel... hmm... expected more from him given the faster tyres but I guess it was just hard to overtake... and when he did make the move he did it rather clumsily.
IMO the way Kimi just left the door open at the start and then didn't even attempt to pass after the Bottas/Vettel crash just proves he knows he isn't allowed to fight Vettel, which is kind of sad because at the moment he looks pretty much equal in most areas. He is certainly making less costly errors.
Both drivers enjoying classic Ferrari strategy and pit stops today.
Edited by VolvoT5, 29 July 2018 - 15:35.
#4215
Posted 29 July 2018 - 15:38
I did wonder how kimi stayed behind.
He backed off a bit
#4216
Posted 29 July 2018 - 15:39
He was nothing more today because of his poor pace, but had the same chances from the outset. Whereas Räikkönen was being screwed over twice already in quali, was used purely as a strategic tool against Valtteri in the race and only due to lifting in the crucial moment didn't beat his teammate.Not sure if serious.
He was literally called a wingman today.
(Although sometimes I'd almost be tempted to give Ferrari the benefit of doubt because they regularly screw up with Vettel as well.)
Edited by Jovanotti, 29 July 2018 - 15:40.
#4217
Posted 29 July 2018 - 15:40
Now bring on the new PU of Kimi. Finally... what a great pace from Kimi on the races. 5 podiums in a row, and his 8th for this season. Yessss
Edited by Perfection, 29 July 2018 - 15:40.
#4218
Posted 29 July 2018 - 15:40
Very solid from Kimi today... could have finished ahead of Vettel despite doing an extra stop. Vettel... hmm... expected more from him given the faster tyres but I guess it was just hard to overtake... and when he did make the move he did it rather clumsily.
IMO the way Kimi just left the door open at the start and then didn't even attempt to pass after the Bottas/Vettel crash just proves he knows he isn't allowed to fight Vettel, which is kind of sad because at the moment he looks pretty much equal in most areas. He is certainly making less costly errors.
Both drivers enjoying classic Ferrari strategy and pit stops today.
Hé didn’t left the door open at start, he wants to overtake Bottas on the inside but the latter closed the door and Räikkönen had nowhere to go while in the same time Vettel was free on the outside.
Bottas is the only reason why Räikkönen lost his 3rd place to Vettel.
#4219
Posted 29 July 2018 - 15:41
Hé didn’t left the door open at start, he wants to overtake Bottas on the inside but the latter closed the door and Räikkönen had nowhere to go while in the same time Vettel was free on the outside.
Bottas is the only reason why Räikkönen lost his 3rd place to Vettel.
This.
#4221
Posted 29 July 2018 - 15:45
Very solid from Kimi today... could have finished ahead of Vettel despite doing an extra stop. Vettel... hmm... expected more from him given the faster tyres but I guess it was just hard to overtake... and when he did make the move he did it rather clumsily.
IMO the way Kimi just left the door open at the start and then didn't even attempt to pass after the Bottas/Vettel crash just proves he knows he isn't allowed to fight Vettel, which is kind of sad because at the moment he looks pretty much equal in most areas. He is certainly making less costly errors.
Both drivers enjoying classic Ferrari strategy and pit stops today.
Yep I reazed that too. Whenever he saw Vettel around him, he let him pass, did not eve tried to block or make it hard. Sad.
#4222
Posted 29 July 2018 - 15:46
Bottas did this to Kimi quite a few times in the past as well ( blocking at the start and caused him lost places)
#4223
Posted 29 July 2018 - 15:46
Ferrari is ******** team. Why not pit Kimi on Ultras when Vandorne stopped and VSC was activated? It was ideal time. VSC got deactivated just when he was entering T2 so only he could have that stop ideally. He had easy cushion for that. 14 seconds to Ricciardo. He would be storming behind Seb and Valterri and if Seb would somehow be unable to overtake Bottas Kimi could try with much fresher ultras.
#4224
Posted 29 July 2018 - 15:48
Whats the overall score between these two now?
189 for Seb and 146 for Kimi. Last year after Hungary Seb had 202 points and Kimi 116.
#4225
Posted 29 July 2018 - 15:49
Come on man, check my post. We both know these Ferrari guys aren't smart enough to do that kind of sinister plan, they have proven that time and time again.He was nothing more today because of his poor pace, but had the same chances from the outset. Whereas Räikkönen was being screwed over twice already in quali, was used purely as a strategic tool against Valtteri in the race and only due to lifting in the crucial moment didn't beat his teammate.
(Although sometimes I'd almost be tempted to give Ferrari the benefit of doubt because they regularly screw up with Vettel as well.)
Check the last race, where they screwed Seb's race (almost) by keeping Kimi in front.
He's allowed to fight Seb, I mean they literally were fighting at the previous race!
Edited by SCUDmissile, 29 July 2018 - 15:50.