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#1 mariner

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Posted 04 April 2018 - 13:14

Some shots of just one of 37 VW Diesel car " graveyards in the USA.




Probably visible from space ... but , strangely none in Europe??


It has to be said that of the last three new car purchases I know of in UK 2 are VAG products , inclduing a diesel so I don't think its hit VW much in EU.


In fact although diesel sales are down a lot in the UK so are fleet sales and, lacking any breakdown of diesel by fleet and private,  it COULD be that all the diesel decline is fleet's stopping buying them for resale and image reasons and private buyers just prefer the economy of diesels.


#2 Bloggsworth

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Posted 04 April 2018 - 20:24

Big problem for diesels in the UK is short travel distances, so little chance to burn off residue in the particulate filter.

#3 Ray Bell

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Posted 19 May 2018 - 21:52

If they're all regularly maintained, there's somebody's got steady work for a while...

Will a chip change bring these back to the regulations?

If it does, will it kill VW new car sales until they're all gone?

#4 Charlieman

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Posted 22 May 2018 - 11:35

Will a chip change bring these back to the regulations?

If it does, will it kill VW new car sales until they're all gone?

My understanding is that the cars require a rework -- the addition of a physical system to absorb emissions from the exhaust. It's good work for car mechanics and technicians rotating between sites.


The cars cannot be sold in the USA or exported until they are modified. So the cars will be modified and sold outside the USA. VAG will try hard to market cars in the USA which consumers will not associate with the diesel scandal.

#5 Bikr7549

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Posted 22 May 2018 - 23:29

We had a 2015 Toureg, V6 diesel US car, probably one of the last ones sold before things fell apart. Early last winter VW came up with the 'fix' for it and the paperwork that we were given told us that we could expect about 1 mpg less after the new software was in place. Software only and less than 1 hour to install-we were first fix by our local dealer. Oh, there was one piece of hardware installed, a sticker stating that it had been updated. No noticeable difference in performance, so all this mess for 1 mpg. With the fix in place we were able to take advantage of various offers VW had so it was traded in on a new VW ALLTRACK. Nice car, not at the same level as the Toureg as it is half the price but not with the long term value issues the diesel would have had. All this mess for 1 mpg? Did I already say that?

Edited by Bikr7549, 22 May 2018 - 23:36.

#6 gruntguru

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Posted 23 May 2018 - 01:36

I mpg is not much for an individual consumer but no doubt highly significant for a car maker who will sell many more cars at the margin to fuel conscious buyers. There are also the fleet mpg standards to be met in the US.