Another one of Ron's shots, looks a lot like a 1.5 litre Cossie Twin Cam providing the Go!!
Posted 02 May 2018 - 20:10
beautiful!!!
Yes !! as a fan of technical drawings, especially the cutaways, I sure enjoy the 'nudes' very much
macoran
Posted 02 May 2018 - 20:35
Posted 02 May 2018 - 23:47
That roll bar rear support to the roll bar is a joke. Bolted to cast alloy which was never designed remotely for the job.
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Posted 03 May 2018 - 06:33
I wasn't sure if Lee was really surprised or simply stating the obvious?
I believe this is 27-FM-24 (rather than JM) and has the same roll bar configuration as the Glyn Scott car.
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Posted 03 May 2018 - 09:55
Couple of shots featuring Glyn Scott's Lotus 27 from Symmons 1967 Gold Star round and Catalina Park 1967. Mike Champion is in Brabham Ford, Max Stewart is in Rennmax Ford - all 1.5 litre AF2.
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Posted 04 May 2018 - 00:56
The ex Glass 27 was advertised for sale in April 2013 Motor Sport p155. The photo showing an all black livery.
Where is it now?
Stephen
Posted 04 May 2018 - 01:18
It was a leap year when Ron Lambert took the fantastic photo that James posted at the lead of this thread. Whether he took it on the Feb 29 or Mar 2, 1964 I'm not sure though.
Here's the Under 1500 entries for Saturday
Event 7 “The Mercury” Racing Car Scratch Race – 10 laps p19
Under 1500cc
3 Capitol Motors Holdings P/L Arnold Glass Lotus 27 1498 NSW
8 Alex (sic) Mildren Racing P/L Frank Gardner Brabham-Ford 1498 INT
15 Scuderia Veloce Greg Cusack Repco-Brabham 1495 NSW
17 David I Walker D I Walker Brabham-Ford 1475 NSW
18 Mel McEwin Mel McEwin Elfin 1498 SA
Stephen
Posted 04 May 2018 - 04:53
The Scott car and the Geoghegan car both had pushrod engines as first raced here...
This is probably the reason for the different chassis number/designation, 'JM' being on both the others and 'FM' only on the Glass car, which was delivered with a twin-cam.
Andrew's car is a 'JM' too, but it was a later import.
Thus far I cannot find a photo of the car without a roll-bar brace, but I'm willing to bet that it's an addition made after its arrival in Australia.
Quite possibly to comply with Australian rules?
Posted 04 May 2018 - 05:14
Quite possibly to comply with Australian rules?
In 1963 certainly all the Ron Harris Team Lotus cars were braced to the engine as above and I suspect all customer cars though later years show some braced at an angle to the nearside rear of the tub.
Posted 04 May 2018 - 05:56
Posted 04 May 2018 - 08:09
and I suspect all customer cars though later years show some braced at an angle to the nearside rear of the tub.
As were the Brabham BT14s, 15s and 16s from 1965.
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Posted 04 May 2018 - 10:12
When Lotus, Brabham or Cooper exported a car to Australia or NZ, how was the car put together? This is the time before container transportation, so I'm wondering how costs and shipping damage were limited.
Did the manufacturer ship an assembled car in a big crate? With wheels fitted? I presume that cars were sold with/without engine and transmission. Were some cars shipped as knocked down kits? Did a car arrive with a spares package, or did owners rely on local distributors for parts that would be difficult to manufacture or buy off the shelf?
Posted 04 May 2018 - 15:23
When Lotus, Brabham or Cooper exported a car to Australia or NZ, how was the car put together? This is the time before container transportation, so I'm wondering how costs and shipping damage were limited.
Did the manufacturer ship an assembled car in a big crate? With wheels fitted? I presume that cars were sold with/without engine and transmission. Were some cars shipped as knocked down kits? Did a car arrive with a spares package, or did owners rely on local distributors for parts that would be difficult to manufacture or buy off the shelf?
Any and/or all of the above...
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Posted 04 May 2018 - 21:40
The Scott car and the Geoghegan car both had pushrod engines as first raced here...
This is probably the reason for the different chassis number/designation, 'JM' being on both the others and 'FM' only on the Glass car, which was delivered with a twin-cam.
Andrew's car is a 'JM' too, but it was a later import.
Thus far I cannot find a photo of the car without a roll-bar brace, but I'm willing to bet that it's an addition made after its arrival in Australia.
The Cosworth twincam engine that went into Glyn Scott's car actually came into the country new from Lotus in my Lotus Series 2 Seven chassis 1938. With the help of Marc Schagen (and his father's) meticulous records we were able to identify engine numbers and the pushrod 1500 engine out of Glyn's car went into Mrs Anne Thompson's Lotus Fifteen.
According to the UK Seven Registrar 1938 was the only S2 Seven to ever leave the factory with a twincam and one could imagine it might have been to facilitate getting such an engine here to put into Glyn's car. The UK records show 1938 left the factory without a radiator fitted and the original radiator would have been quite a fiddle to fit with a twincam.
Posted 04 May 2018 - 23:03
Wasn't it Daniel Tracey who used to work for Geoghegans helping with new Lotus arrivals?
He might be able to tell us...
Posted 04 May 2018 - 23:42
Edited by DanTra2858, 04 May 2018 - 23:43.
Posted 05 May 2018 - 04:28
Sounds nothing like the Top Gear episode when the 3 tried to assemble a Caterham.
Dan, I hope all work safety practices were carried out to the tee?
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Posted 18 May 2018 - 03:49
Going by comments in some1964 Oran Park programmes the 27s must have been getting knocked about fairly early in their racing life.
In July it reads "Everyone will be glad to see the reappearance of ARNOLD GLASS so soon after his disastrous crash at the last (May) meeting."
Here's some entry details from that programme.
July 5, 1964 Oran Park
Event 8 Racing Car Scratch Race Group A, 8 laps 12.50pm
1100 to 1500cc
5 Total Team / Ian Geoghegan Lotus 27 1475
7 Capitol Motors (Holdings) P/L Arnold Glass Lotus 27 1498
Event 13 Craven A Trophy For Racing Cars by Invitation 10 laps 2.40pm
1100 to 1500cc
5 Total Team / Ian Geoghegan Lotus 27 1475
7 Capitol Motors (Holdings) P/L Arnold Glass Lotus 27 1498
In the September 1964 Oran Park programme it mentions "LEO GEOGHEGAN returns to Oran Park in his Lotus 27 which was badly damaged only two weeks ago at Warwick Farm. Special parts were flown out from England to enable the car to be ready for this meeting."
Stephen
Posted 18 May 2018 - 07:41
Posted 20 May 2018 - 08:32
Ray, regarding your post 31 question/comment not sure where the photo you mention can be found?.
A bit more Oran Park Lotus 27 entries
Sunday May 3 1964 Oran Park National Open meeting
Event 8 Martins Neutral Bay Motors Racing Car Scratch Race Group A, 8 laps 12.50pm p10
1100 to 1500cc
1 Total Team / Leo Geoghegan Lotus 27 1475
7 Capitol Motors (Holdings) P/L / A Glass Lotus 27 1498
Event 13 NSW Road Racing Club Invitation Racing Car Scratch Race 10 laps 2.40pm p17
1100 to 1500cc
1 Total Team / Leo Geoghegan Lotus 27 1475
7 Capitol Motors (Holdings) P/L / Arnold Glass Lotus 27 1498
Stephen
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Posted 24 May 2018 - 07:12
They did well to have the car repaired in 2 weeks if they had to wait for the parts to arrive from the UK.
An early Lotus 27 entry from November 1963 Oran Park
Sunday November 24 1963 NSWRRC Oran Park National Open Meeting.
Event 8 Racing Car Scratch Race, Group A ? laps 12.50pm
20 Glyn Scott Lotus 27 1498
Event 13 Invitation Racing Car Scratch Race 10 laps 2.40pm
20 Glyn Scott Lotus 27 1498
Stephen
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Posted 26 May 2018 - 04:28
His name was Ric Price...
He raced that car ten times according to Marc's book. He knows nothing more about him, but you'd have to say he put up a good performance here.
Posted 26 May 2018 - 09:29
Re the entry list in post 38;
I guess number 20 was West Australian Noel Potts, a champion TQ racer
at Claremont Speedway before buying the Elfin which he raced briefly at Caversham in the mid 60s.
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