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#1751 Frood

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Posted 02 December 2018 - 13:32

I won a trophy for best design in my pinewood derby. My car was designed to look like a Maserati 250F.

Remember that print I have of Emerson Fittipaldi that I said I mounted on the wall? I didn’t mount it well enough. It fell off the wall last week and landed on that trophy. :(

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#1752 B Squared

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Posted 02 December 2018 - 14:27

My brother helped young man build his Pinewood Derby car to look just like his 9-inch wide laydown design racer that A.J. (yes, his real name) ran in the All-American Soap Box Derby. The nails used as axles were worked on with crocus cloth until they looked like chrome, the wheels were turned to a near-knife edge to reduce surface contact and drag, the scale was nearly perfect and the weight was poured to the exact location that testing showed would be best. The Pinewood then received a body shop quality paint job. It won the final heat by more than half of the length of the track.

#1753 red stick

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Posted 02 December 2018 - 14:29

Not that anybody asked, but might I suggest that a decision to post a particular photo of a particular car does not necessarily equate to a rejection of all other possibilities. The roadster era was slightly before my time, but I suspect we're inevitably drawn to the era where racing first made an impression on us. FWIW, #98 makes me think of Mike Mosley, but I doubt that's the general experience.  ;)

Edited by red stick, 02 December 2018 - 14:31.


#1754 red stick

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Posted 02 December 2018 - 14:37

I won a trophy for best design in my pinewood derby. My car was designed to look like a Maserati 250F.

Remember that print I have of Emerson Fittipaldi that I said I mounted on the wall? I didn’t mount it well enough. It fell off the wall last week and landed on that trophy. :(

 

Crashing into things for no apparent reason?  That doesn't sound like Emmo.  Are you sure it wasn't a Kimball poster?



#1755 red stick

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Posted 02 December 2018 - 14:39

My brother helped young man build his Pinewood Derby car to look just like his 9-inch wide laydown design racer that A.J. (yes, his real name) ran in the All-American Soap Box Derby. The nails used as axles were worked on with crocus cloth until they looked like chrome, the wheels were turned to a near-knife edge to reduce surface contact and drag, the scale was nearly perfect and the weight was poured to the exact location that testing showed would be best. The Pinewood then received a body shop quality paint job. It won the final heat by more than half of the length of the track.

 

I'd love to see a photo of that machine.

 

The winning car that beat mine was essentially rolling sculpture, a flat-bottomed arc no more than an inch high with the ballast mounted just behind the front axle.  Not quite as dominant as yours, but impressive nonetheless. 


Edited by red stick, 02 December 2018 - 14:46.


#1756 B Squared

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Posted 02 December 2018 - 14:44

I'd love to see a photo of that machine.

I'll ask my brother, I'm fairly certain he has some shots of it from almost 45 years ago.

#1757 maximilian

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Posted 02 December 2018 - 15:51

I hope this honesty doesn't backfire on him and result in him losing his ride.

 

Why do you think he became a "partner" in the #98 entry?  :lol:



#1758 Jim Thurman

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Posted 02 December 2018 - 18:16

I dispute this list; when Mario, Michael and Jeff were all racing, Jeff was affectionately nicknamed "Fredo" by some on the CART crew. As in "The Godfather" character Fredo, a bit of the family underachiever. I'd gladly take Marco's professional driving resume over Jeff's - or any of those posting on this thread for that matter.

 

You know this made me laugh, even though I do kind of feel badly for Jeff. Even with incidents like running into the safety team's truck at Portland, it has had to have been tough on him following in his family footsteps.

 

I felt even more badly when I read about some of the problems he's had in his life, self-induced or not.

 

Where would Sandy rank? (to quote another here: "I'll get my coat")  :)

 

EDIT: grammar error (redundancy) from poor editing, d'oh!


Edited by Jim Thurman, 03 December 2018 - 18:47.


#1759 Jim Thurman

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Posted 02 December 2018 - 18:19

I think it's time to again mention that I don't view these fellows as absolute heroes, who can walk on water and are above having some sport with. They are human beings, with human failings, just like everyone else. I felt that way even when I was a kid, in an era where there were more of these fellows lost in accidents.

 

Besides, has anyone listened to the stick, ribbing, razzing, or whatever one wishes to call it, that drivers give each other? The group of former drivers that regularly held court with lunches in Indianapolis used to refer to Gary Bettenhausen as "Schmuck", with him right in the middle of all of it.



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#1760 Andrew Hope

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Posted 02 December 2018 - 20:59

DUDE! I thought I was the only one who played those!

NHL 2000 was the best. That was the one with the fake EA Thunder and EA Blades teams that you could load up with as many custom players as you wanted, but for some reason couldn’t use in playoff modes, so you had to go through and shed an entire team’s players then sign all yours as free agents.

I remember making sure all my players were over 175 lbs so they could do the lunging body check that always domino’d people, because the commentary on the brawl-inducing hits was epic. (“Wow, that one looked like he stepped in front of a bus!” “I’m pretty sure they measure hits like that on the Richter scale!”)

I am still amazed at the ingenuity of the developers for including the fist-fight mini-game as an actual part of the gameplay. The mere existence of that feature was hilarious in and of itself, but made even funnier by the fact that it served no practical purpose, appeared randomly when you clobbered the sh!t out of someone at the end of a play, and was treated with enough effort that it had all the meta-strategy of most fighting games. Because having the players resume Mortal Kombat following their hockey break is the feature of any hockey game that requires the most attention to detail.

Thanks for bringing that up. I had forgotten those games even existed until you brought them up. :lol:

I had NHL 2000 - It was the first in the series to have a 5 season mode rather than just one like NHL 99 did. So at the end of the year you drafted made up players that were all named after the designers who worked on the game. One time I as Red Wings beat Chicago 6-5, with full line changes, and all 6 of my goals were scored by a guy I had just drafted named Ross Doody.

That game was great - so many fun glitches. Sometimes the puck did U-turns for no reason. You could lock yourself to one player and check the goalie so you could score easy. Sometimes it worked, and sometimes you got a penalty shot, even though you were the one breaking rules.

Do you remember if you laid a big hit on someone they could be injured (duh) but fun fact - besides the usual strained back or broken wrist or whatever sometimes if you big hit someone they would then missed the next few games with a ruptured testicle :eek:

Edited by Andrew Hope, 02 December 2018 - 23:19.


#1761 Izzyeviel

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Posted 02 December 2018 - 22:44

I thought I'd post this here rather than bump an old thread, but Rob must be in good spirits if he's doing stuff like this!

 

https://twitter.com/...353245150072833


Edited by Izzyeviel, 02 December 2018 - 22:44.


#1762 OvDrone

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Posted 02 December 2018 - 22:52

I thought I'd post this here rather than bump an old thread, but Rob must be in good spirits if he's doing stuff like this!

 

https://twitter.com/...353245150072833

 

I love these dudes !



#1763 red stick

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Posted 02 December 2018 - 23:09

More Pinewood Derby fun, this time from the wonderful world of F1.

 

https://www.motorspo...saward/id/00352



#1764 king_crud

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 15:42

Where would Sandy would rank? (to quote another here: "I'll get my coat")  :)


number 1 in the fashion stakes

#1765 B Squared

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 03:49

number 1 in the fashion stakes

That's interesting, I remember her choices of "fashion," especially her penchant for sombreros, being (rightfully) trashed on a regular basis.

#1766 king_crud

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 09:26

oh yeah, it was a very tongue in cheek comment, she dressed like a crazy woman

#1767 Joseki

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 12:10

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McLaren Chevy is officially back in North America

https://www.mclaren....dianapolis-500/

#1768 Stephane

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 12:33

What a surprise  :rotfl:



#1769 sblick

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 12:37

Why does that car always look so great.  A beautiful machine.  Lovely to watch at Road America.



#1770 jonpollak

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 08:55

Old Jp saw the Bruce and Denny show many times at Riverside.
Dad even got a tennis ball from an inlet trumpet for me.

In other news Ericsson gets his first impression.
https://www.indycar....sson-First-Test

https://youtu.be/4NHggGpFjNQ
Jp

Edited by jonpollak, 05 December 2018 - 09:26.


#1771 paulb

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 12:37

^It is a bit different, isn't it, Marcus?! Welcome to Indycar!



#1772 sblick

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 16:22

Such a trove of talent this year.  So excited. 

 

Only been able to see Can-Am during vintage meets.  Still impressive and Road America usually has a ton of them.  Nothing like standing behind the outside pit wall and having one of those blast by you at 180 or so.

 

So does anyone know if Wickens can use his legs now and is learning to walk or if they are doing this to keep up his muscle memory?



#1773 Joseki

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 23:12



Rumbling from MP: Chevy apparently redirecting (one of) their best engine man to the Alonso car for the Indy 500 from one of their other supplied teams.

Also calls PT a racist quoting "first hand experience" wow.

Edited by Joseki, 05 December 2018 - 23:29.


#1774 jonpollak

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 11:42

Robin’s back.
https://www.reddit.c...rs_borg_warner/

#1775 Joseki

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 12:43

12-06-HSR-Moves-To-Honda.jpg

 

https://www.indycar....ner-joins-Honda

 

1 year deal with Honda.



#1776 Peat

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 12:50

Sort of surprising, but ultimately understandable. 



#1777 Radoye

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 12:55

Wow i didn't see that coming.



#1778 pacificquay

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 13:49

Inevitable given the Andretti links



#1779 Joseki

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 14:15

I'll bet 10 bucks that in 2020 Andretti, Harding and McLaren will be all Chevy powered.



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#1780 red stick

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 14:46

Also calls PT a racist quoting "first hand experience" wow.

 

On one of his first podcasts immediately following the most recent PT incident, Pruett similarly noted that he'd heard the "I was hacked" rationale from PT before and that nothing that PT purportedly said came as a surprise.


Edited by red stick, 06 December 2018 - 17:00.


#1781 B Squared

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 16:22

Robin’s back.
https://www.reddit.c...rs_borg_warner/

One of the comments at the Racer site gets on Robin about his hat. I'd cut him some slack as he's maybe hair-challenged after his chemo. Good to see him back.

#1782 red stick

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 17:04

The Racer.com comments section "cough" "cough," unlike other more distinguished fora, is not a hotbed of otherworldly sensibility.



#1783 B Squared

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 23:22

You're being extremely kind Mark.

#1784 B Squared

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 09:53

Sam Schmidt drives the Arrow Corvette in NYC. The audio mix makes verbiage hard to hear at times, but it's great to again see Sam be able to experience some freedom from his paralysis:

https://racer.com/20...-new-york-city/

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 12:00

Sam Schmidt drives the Arrow Corvette in NYC. The audio mix makes verbiage hard to hear at times, but it's great to again see Sam be able to experience some freedom from his paralysis:

https://racer.com/20...-new-york-city/

 

What a fantastic clip! Brilliant control scheme. As Sam says, I now know nothing is impossible.

 

How much fun would it be to see Sam do some hot laps!



#1786 stewie

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 13:02

One of the comments at the Racer site gets on Robin about his hat. I'd cut him some slack as he's maybe hair-challenged after his chemo. Good to see him back.

The joy of living in the EU is for some reason Racer block the comments section. Don't have to see half that rubbish now!

#1787 jonpollak

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 13:56

Strange... I get all the Racer comments.

Not that I read them,but they’re there.
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#1788 stewie

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 14:32

Strange... I get all the Racer comments.

Not that I read them,but they’re there.
Jp

Do you use an American VPN at all?

#1789 Cynic2

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 21:02

Back to the number 98 for a minute:

 

 

Troy Ruttman. 1952 Indy 500 winner (after Bill Vukovich broke a steering arm on the 192nd lap while leading) driving the front-engined Agajanian Kuzma-Offy number 98  This was the last victory for the upright pavement/dirt car before the roadsters took over, and I believe the first time a car numbered 98 won the 500.

 

Ruttman was (and remains) the youngest Indy winner at 22.  He first raced at Indy in 1949 when he was 19, and lied about his age to get a license.  The confusion about his real age lasted for years.


Edited by Cynic2, 07 December 2018 - 21:25.


#1790 jonpollak

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 22:36

Do you use an American VPN at all?


No.. straight BT router.
My iPhone and Mac are US however.
I still don’t get it though.
Jp

#1791 B Squared

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 02:01

What a fantastic clip! Brilliant control scheme. As Sam says, I now know nothing is impossible.
 
How much fun would it be to see Sam do some hot laps!






#1792 paulb

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 13:13

Damn, I got sand in my eyes. Its humbling to see Sams supreme confidence and determination.



#1793 FLB

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 13:32

Sam was a pretty good driver in his day. He was a match for his team mate Luyendyk in 1999, winning in Vegas.



#1794 red stick

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 15:01

You're being extremely kind Mark.

 

Well, you know, understatement is its own form of damnation!



#1795 rodlamas

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 16:36

How many full time entries should we have for 2019?



#1796 maximilian

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 16:58

How many full time entries should we have for 2019?

 

We SHOULD have 28-30, but doesn't look like it'll be that many.  By now, I am ready to settle for 26 full-timers.  :lol:



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Posted 08 December 2018 - 21:06

Possibly on the Pruett pod cast I heard 23 full time entries so far, not sure whether that includes Carlin or not. Juncos does not have anything confirmed yet. With part time entries I'm guessing there will be 25- 26 cars at some events

#1798 Jim Thurman

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 21:51

Back to the number 98 for a minute:

 

 

Troy Ruttman. 1952 Indy 500 winner (after Bill Vukovich broke a steering arm on the 192nd lap while leading) driving the front-engined Agajanian Kuzma-Offy number 98  This was the last victory for the upright pavement/dirt car before the roadsters took over, and I believe the first time a car numbered 98 won the 500.

 

Ruttman was (and remains) the youngest Indy winner at 22.  He first raced at Indy in 1949 when he was 19, and lied about his age to get a license.  The confusion about his real age lasted for years.

 

Thanks for mentioning Troy Ruttman  :up:  A true wunderkind Ruttman was winning races regularly in Southern California as a 17-18 year old. Anyone who saw him in his prime was greatly impressed with his talent and abilities. I recall Dan Gurney mentioning being a teenager watching Ruttman race, and not realizing until later that Ruttman was only a year older!

 

Ruttman's true age was sorted out relatively early when compared to others, like Jimmy Davies, for example.

 

Of course, sadly, just three months after that '500' win, Ruttman badly broke his right arm in a sprint car crash. It didn't heal properly, and Ruttman admitted he didn't rehabilitate the way doctors recommended. With the complications from the injury, he was out of racing for a year and a half, spending his time gaining a lot of weight, drinking and carousing. Despite some success and good moments after he returned, he later said he never was the same after the layoff.


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#1799 E.B.

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 19:27

I would agree with him - I know he had lots of stock car success, but did he EVER win another open wheel race after that crash? I don't think that Monza heat win should count, as it was really a 500 mile race with compulsory lengthy pitstops for repairs!

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#1800 red stick

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 20:10

I got 23 fairly easily:

 

3 Penske

2 Ganassi

4 Andretti

2 Foyt

2 Schmidt/Peterson

2 RLL

2 Harding/Steinbrenner

2 Carpenter

2 Coyne

2 Carlin

 

But not sure if Carlin is confirmed for two cars and this doesn't include Juncos.  Who's missing?