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#1801 maximilian

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 22:11

Well, there had been rumors of a 3rd RLL car, and a third Carlin car.  Plus I would really HOPE that Juncos can manage to keep at least ONE car on the grid more or less full-time...

 

That's about it, though... unless DragonSpeed or Vasser-Sullivan pull a surprise full time entry, but that's unlikely.  Dreyer & Reinbold are kind of lurking, too... but all these have become very quiet after much initial hype.



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#1802 Anja

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Posted 09 December 2018 - 22:47

I think the third Carlin car was supposed to be Jones or Ericsson and by now we know that's not happening. 


Edited by Anja, 09 December 2018 - 22:48.


#1803 maximilian

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 02:25

I think the third Carlin car was supposed to be Jones or Ericsson and by now we know that's not happening. 

 

Yeah those two really disappointed in taking other rides that previously were NOT paydriver spots.  :cry:

Still no word even from Kimball...?

 

There've got to be some more "funded" drivers out there...?


Edited by maximilian, 10 December 2018 - 02:28.


#1804 Jim Thurman

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 04:38

I would agree with him - I know he had lots of stock car success, but did he EVER win another open wheel race after that crash? I don't think that Monza heat win should count, as it was really a 500 mile race with compulsory lengthy pitstops for repairs!

 

He did not, at least in the Championship series. Monza was the best he did. And, FWIW to some of you out there, Troy Ruttman did make one F1 start on European soil   ;)



#1805 jonpollak

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 15:01

Ooohhh.. Quality press coverage of Indycar for post-millennials
https://www.newyorke...-millennial-age

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#1806 red stick

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 17:12

Ooohhh.. Quality press coverage of Indycar for post-millennials
https://www.newyorke...-millennial-age

Jp

 

Kids these days.



#1807 Andrew Hope

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 17:28

My problem with the word millennials is that generation is a notional concept. In the same way celebrities always die in 3s provided you count in 3s, generations only happen when there's either a Second World War, or you arbitrarily choose to start counting in a certain spot.

Lumping me in with people ten years older and ten years younger seems far too cute and convenient. Like that generation of French drivers including Olivier Panis, Romain Grosjean and Charles LeClerc.

Edited by Andrew Hope, 10 December 2018 - 17:29.


#1808 BRG

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 17:46

We've got POST-millenials now?  Are they younger than Generation X?  All this generational stuff is just so last century, man.



#1809 Jim Thurman

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Posted 10 December 2018 - 17:59

My problem with the word millennials is that generation is a notional concept. In the same way celebrities always die in 3s provided you count in 3s, generations only happen when there's either a Second World War, or you arbitrarily choose to start counting in a certain spot.

Lumping me in with people ten years older and ten years younger seems far too cute and convenient. Like that generation of French drivers including Olivier Panis, Romain Grosjean and Charles LeClerc.

 

All generation labels are notional. "Baby Boomers" is applied to anyone born between 1946 and 1964. That's quite a spread, as are all the other arbitrary groupings.



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Posted 10 December 2018 - 21:28

My problem with the word millennials is that generation is a notional concept. 

 

 

Have some avocado toast, it will make you feel better...    :stoned:

 

The generational concept isn't as notional as it does delineate a specific demographic based on birth years.  Even though the concept of when those start, for example after the war, appears arbitrary there is at least some structure to the group.  It's basically the span of birth to western adulthood divided into roughly 20 year chunks.  If you like I can send you a can opener so your generation will stop killing "big tuna",  It's the least I can do.

 

 

 

 

:lol:  :kiss:



#1811 jonpollak

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Posted 11 December 2018 - 00:50

Sorry Charlie.
https://youtu.be/4HYOv9Fmt-Q
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#1812 Radoye

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Posted 11 December 2018 - 03:41

Sorry Charlie.

 



#1813 B Squared

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 10:18

Al and Al Jr. at the Performance Racing Industry (PRI) breakfast, hosted by Dave Despain.

https://www.indycar....s-PRI-breakfast

Edited by B Squared, 12 December 2018 - 10:39.


#1814 B Squared

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Posted 14 December 2018 - 13:32

February Laguna test:

https://racer.com/20...y-indycar-test/

Edited by B Squared, 14 December 2018 - 13:34.


#1815 red stick

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Posted 14 December 2018 - 15:14

If you've made it through Marshal Pruett's recent "This Week in IndyCar" chat with Mark Miles you likely found it low on new information but high in corporatese (exploring options, keeping lines of communication open, etc.)  One gem was that in order to keep ovals on the schedule IndyCar is willing to revisit sanctioning fees.  Another was a question about what cars in the IMS Museum he'd like to drive.  Miles, a Foyt enthusiast, expressed an interest in any or all of Foyt's 500 winners.

 

So, to pass the time, what cars in the IMS Museum would you like to take out for a spin?

 

I'm personally drawn to the Lotus 56 turbine car, with Rutherford's Chaparral 2K "Yellow Submarine" a close second.  Thoughts?



#1816 B Squared

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Posted 14 December 2018 - 15:19

I like your choices, especially the Lotus 56, even though I don't think the Speedway has that car other than on loan - a Novi, a Blue Crown Special, a Watson Roadster and Mark Donohue's M16B McLaren would be right at the top for me. Also on loan, The Beast and Silent Sam would be fun.

#1817 sblick

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Posted 14 December 2018 - 15:21

Villeneuve's winner.  Jimmy Clark Lotus.  Any of the pre 30s car just to see what it was like.  They had a Porsche 956/962 this summer that Al Jr. drove I wouldn't mind getting into. 



#1818 sblick

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Posted 14 December 2018 - 15:22

Once they start the renovation it is supposed to be closed for 18 months



#1819 red stick

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Posted 14 December 2018 - 15:31

I like your choices, especially the Lotus 56, even though I don't think the Speedway has that car other than on loan - a Novi, a Blue Crown Special, a Watson Roadster and Mark Donohue's M16B McLaren would be right at the top for me. Also on loan, The Beast and Silent Sam would be fun.

 

I was last there in 2007 and am working from what I remember, treacherous as that can be.  Maybe the question should be, "What car that raced in the 500 would you like to try?"


Edited by red stick, 14 December 2018 - 15:31.


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#1820 PayasYouRace

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Posted 14 December 2018 - 17:11

 

So, to pass the time, what cars in the IMS Museum would you like to take out for a spin?

 

I'm personally drawn to the Lotus 56 turbine car, with Rutherford's Chaparral 2K "Yellow Submarine" a close second.  Thoughts?

 

Here's a list of exhibits, which will help those of us who haven't been fortunate enough to drop by.

 

https://en.wikipedia...Museum#Exhibits

 

There's some really unexpected stuff there, like a Benetton B191 and a Stewart SF02 that never even raced in the USA. I feel that it would be in the spirit of the question to choose an Indycar.

 

I think I'd pick the 1990 Domino's Pizza car. There was a picture of it in a book I had as a child, on a page mainly populated by IRL Crapwagons. This was in the dark days of the split and that was the only car on that page that looked like what I knew to be an Indycar, which for me meant what I played with in Indycar Racing II and saw when watching CART on Eurosport.



#1821 red stick

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Posted 14 December 2018 - 17:26

Thanks for the list.  I'd tried to find one on the museum's website, but Wikipedia saves us again.  The "Spirit of America" rocket car would be an intriguing ride . . .


Edited by red stick, 14 December 2018 - 17:28.


#1822 Andrew Hope

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Posted 14 December 2018 - 17:36

I want to drive any car in that museum that hits the sweet spot of the speed the car is capable of being decades ahead of the safety features it enjoys.

I don't want it to hurt every time I walk for the next 60 years of my life. I want to be a-okay, or vaporized instantly. Is that really so much to ask?

Edited by Andrew Hope, 14 December 2018 - 17:36.


#1823 stewie

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Posted 14 December 2018 - 17:43

The 1911 wasp and the Jacques Villeneuve's 95 car for me.

Edited by stewie, 14 December 2018 - 17:44.


#1824 red stick

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Posted 14 December 2018 - 20:04

That's two votes for Villeneuve's Reynard-Cosworth.  Is it the driver or something particular about the car?



#1825 stewie

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Posted 14 December 2018 - 20:23

That's two votes for Villeneuve's Reynard-Cosworth. Is it the driver or something particular about the car?

It's a cracking looking car design wise, excellent livery and a cool story with Jacques winning by coming back from 2 laps down.

#1826 E.B.

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Posted 14 December 2018 - 21:05

Jimmy Clark Lotus.


The museum's 1963 Lotus was not Clark's, it is just dressed up as such. The real thing was destroyed at Phoenix the following year.

#1827 red stick

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Posted 14 December 2018 - 21:12

I want to drive any car in that museum that hits the sweet spot of the speed the car is capable of being decades ahead of the safety features it enjoys.

I don't want it to hurt every time I walk for the next 60 years of my life. I want to be a-okay, or vaporized instantly. Is that really so much to ask?

 

Sounds like a second thumbs up for the "Spirit of America."   ;)  Safety features?  You got this here crash helmet and there's this here drogue parachute . . . try to activate the latter before the former.


Edited by red stick, 14 December 2018 - 21:38.


#1828 jonpollak

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Posted 14 December 2018 - 21:36

Parnelli’s Turbine.
JR’s Chaparral
JV’s Reynard
Dario’s DW12

Jp

#1829 paulb

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Posted 14 December 2018 - 23:13

Turbine

AAR F5000

Rutherford Chaparral

A Novi



#1830 maximilian

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Posted 14 December 2018 - 23:15

So disappointed every time I hope for some interesting silly season news, just to find you guys talking about all kinda other stuff.  Maybe we need an "IndyCar Talk" thread!  :lol:



#1831 red stick

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Posted Yesterday, 00:31

There's not much going on. FWIW, as an aside on yesterday's "This Week in Sports Cars" with Marshall Pruett and Graham Goodwin, MP mentioned that Juncos was having a very hard time putting together sponsorship for a 2019 IndyCar campaign. So no news there. Yet.


Edited by red stick, Yesterday, 12:01.