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#151 Myrvold

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 19:17

If the big rumours come true and Alonso joins IndyCar, then of course the big question is - does IndyCar calendar clash with WEC? Because Alonso still has to finish his 2018-2019 WEC superseason next year.  :p

Not in 2018, so I guess it wont in 2019 either.

 

EDIT: It does. Silverstone and Pocono. I was just assuming it didn't as Kanaan is in the Ganassi Ford.


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#152 SpaceHorseParty

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 19:38

I don’t agree with retiring numbers, especially if you’re going to be selective about it. CART didn’t retire 3 or 25, so 99 should stay in use as well.

Why would CART have retired #3 and #25?



#153 Risil

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 20:15

I guess because those were the numbers being run by Gonzalo Rodriguez and Jeff Krosnoff when they died in racing accidents.

 

I'm not really keen on retiring numbers but with Greg Moore I would feel strange if they brought his number back. The only F1 driver I can compare him to is Gilles Villeneuve. Young, charismatic, supremely talented, capable of making anyone fall in love with motor racing, and with such a big future still ahead of him.



#154 PayasYouRace

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 20:53

The 99 won't be used PAYR.

I didn’t say it would.

It has been used since reunification though, and rightly so.

Edit. It seems to have been mainly a Schmidt number since then.

#155 Jim Thurman

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 21:31

What numbers did McLaren run during their 1970s visits to Indy? Could be an option.

 

Quite a few, which I had to look up (I only remember numbers when they have deep ties). Amongst the numbers Team McLaren used, #72 & #75, #85 & #86, and, of course Rutherford's 1974 win came in #3.

 

I like the idea of them using an earlier McLaren number(s).



#156 Jim Thurman

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 21:35

All the talk of retiring numbers, along with some who childishly hold a grudge against Helio for "taking Greg's seat", should just get over it. I feel quite confident in saying that Greg Moore himself would be quite embarrassed, if not annoyed, at that sort of behavior and probably would have odd feelings about having his number retired.



#157 maximilian

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 14:49

Interesting snippet on Miller's Mailbag today was that Felix Rosenqvist could actually be in the running for a full time Scuderia Corsa seat for 2019  :eek:​ 



#158 maximilian

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 15:06

https://www.motorspo...n-2019-1045886/

 

So for someone with PRIME, why MUST Alonso race IndyCar in 2019, please?   ;)



#159 jonpollak

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 15:15

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#160 sblick

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 16:15

Saying Alonso would be happier to compete and win.  Also goes along with his goals to be a dominant driver in multiple disciplines  McLaren could keep him in the stable if suddenly F1 car was competitive or if they go LeMans racing.  Alonso could also test F1 car and still give positive feedback or be there emergency driver.



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Posted 13 June 2018 - 16:25

https://www.motorspo...n-2019-1045886/

So for someone with PRIME, why MUST Alonso race IndyCar in 2019, please?  ;)

They boil it down to

- If Alonso can’t beat Schumacher’s 7 WDC he should try to do a Mansell to be considered one of the greatest ever.
- Alonso would give McLaren a boost in credibility in the USA, as McLaren seeks to expand its road car business.
- Alonso could stay race ready and motivated by being competitive. McLaren then could then tempt Alonso back into an F1 seat if they become more competitive.

#162 maximilian

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 16:28

Thank you!  :up:

 

Well, the Force sure seems to be strong with this Silly Season rumor, which has almost become a "worst kept secret" at this point.  Hopeful it really will happen!



#163 Muppetmad

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 16:41

The best thing that could happen for the sport is Alonso coming in and being competitive, without running away with it. Thankfully, that's what I think would happen.



#164 Loosenut

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 16:54

They boil it down to

- If Alonso can’t beat Schumacher’s 7 WDC he should try to do a Mansell to be considered one of the greatest eve.
- Alonso would give McLaren a boost in credibility in the USA, as McLaren seeks to expand its road car business.
- Alonso could stay race ready and motivated by being competitive. McLaren then could then tempt Alonso back into an F1 seat if they become more competitive.

They've been reading the forums then.. :p

#165 PayasYouRace

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 16:56

They've been reading the forums then.. :p


We know they do. Haven’t seen a what people think article in a bit though.

I should add that I read the article on Autosport, but I assume it’s the same as the Motorsport hosted one.

#166 Nathan

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 23:45

I don't really understand why Alonso would do a full Indy season. 



#167 FLB

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 23:56

I don't really understand why Alonso would do a full Indy season. 

Because he'd win races and at his age, chances are he won't win a championship again in F1. If he wants another major open-wheel championship, it's likely his best time to make the move.


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#168 jonpollak

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 02:07

I don't really understand why Alonso would do a full Indy season. 

 


Would the answer be because he likes real good racing?

#169 MastaKink

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 05:33

I don't really understand why Alonso would do a full Indy season. 

 

Because racing for 7th-12th in F1 isn't much fun for him anymore and that's where he'll be for the next two seasons, we all know it. He can get another shot at the Indy 500 at the same time. He can compete for poles,wins and podiums at most races for the first time in 11 years. He can fight for a title for the first time in 6 years. There's some great tracks to race on. 

 

I can see why he would switch, at least until 2021.



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Posted 14 June 2018 - 06:08

I hope he does not get killed in Indy as it is more dangerous than F1 but if he does not mind...



#171 PayasYouRace

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 06:26

I don't really understand why Alonso would do a full Indy season.

I can think of another youngest ever two time world champion who after years of uncompetitive F1 cars made a move across to Indycar and reenvigorated his career. It worked for Emerson Fittipaldi and I don’t understand why Alonso would not do a full Indycar season.

#172 kapow

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 06:49

IndyCar is a bit more dangerous than F1 but not significantly. Injuries in IndyCar are more common though.

Two IndyCar drivers have died in the last 10 years and one F1 driver.

Justin Wilson's death was a complete fluke where he was hit on the head by something that had fallen off another car. Similar to Massa's incident where he was lucky to survive.

#173 PiperPa42

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 07:48

I hope he does not get killed in Indy as it is more dangerous than F1 but if he does not mind...


I don’t hope he get killed at all, no matter where he is be it at Indy, Monaco, a zebra crossing, etc.

#174 stewie

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 09:10

I hope he does not get killed in Indy as it is more dangerous than F1 but if he does not mind...

All motorsport is dangerous, it even says so on the tickets. Just because F1 has been comparatively lucky, does not make it safe either...



#175 jstrains

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 09:49

All motorsport is dangerous, it even says so on the tickets. Just because F1 has been comparatively lucky, does not make it safe either...

 

Really? I have to look at my tickets at home...



#176 jonpollak

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 14:04

Ay dios mio... Por favor !!!

#177 maximilian

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 15:00

Two IndyCar drivers have died in the last 10 years and one F1 driver.

 

Perhaps 2 F1 deaths, if you count Maria de Villota... which I think we should, as she died in F1 testing - also a very freak accident.



#178 PayasYouRace

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 20:01

Perhaps 2 F1 deaths, if you count Maria de Villota... which I think we should, as she died in F1 testing - also a very freak accident.


She actually died over a year after her accident. She had apparently made a decent recovery. Her death was caused by cardiac arrest. I don’t know if it was ever confirmed that it was a direct result of her injuries.

#179 maximilian

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 20:22

She actually died over a year after her accident. She had apparently made a decent recovery. Her death was caused by cardiac arrest. I don’t know if it was ever confirmed that it was a direct result of her injuries.

 

https://www.telegrap...ell-family.html

 

Not sure how a head injury relates to a cardiac arrest, but nonetheless pretty safe to say, if she didn't have that accident, she would be alive and well today.



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#180 PayasYouRace

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 21:50

https://www.telegrap...ell-family.html
 
Not sure how a head injury relates to a cardiac arrest, but nonetheless pretty safe to say, if she didn't have that accident, she would be alive and well today.


I’m not a doctor so I wouldn’t know. What I do know is that you can’t say she died in F1 testing. She died in her bed.

#181 maximilian

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Posted 15 June 2018 - 04:13

I’m not a doctor so I wouldn’t know. What I do know is that you can’t say she died in F1 testing. She died in her bed.

 

By that logic, Jules Bianchi also didn't die racing in F1...



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Posted 15 June 2018 - 06:14

By that logic, Jules Bianchi also didn't die racing in F1...

Jules never recovered from his injuries. Maria had (as best she could. It was a miracle she didn’t die on the spot) and had started living her life again.

Didn’t mean to drag this OT.

#183 djparky

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Posted 15 June 2018 - 07:10

Really? I have to look at my tickets at home...


Yes it says on the back of tickets, the safety obsessives seem to forget that driving cars at 180mph on any track is dangerous thing to do

#184 maximilian

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Posted 15 June 2018 - 14:38

Jules never recovered from his injuries. Maria had (as best she could. It was a miracle she didn’t die on the spot) and had started living her life again.

Didn’t mean to drag this OT.

 

They both died as a result of their injuries sustained while operating an F1 car.   But yeah, let's move on.



#185 FLB

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Posted 16 June 2018 - 22:02

Pipo !!!

Derani will likely end up in a Scuderia Corsa car, IMHO. He's driving for them at Le Mans.



#186 maximilian

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Posted 19 June 2018 - 21:08

Derani will likely end up in a Scuderia Corsa car, IMHO. He's driving for them at Le Mans.

 

This is very possible, but then there's also that rumor that Felix Rosenqvist might be lined up for that seat.  Personally I would be just a little surprised if Felix gives up his position in FE, but then again, I would choose IndyCar over FE too, if I were a driver.  Although!  Not sure I'd swap a factory Mahindra ride (or another FE factory ride he may possibly be able to get as one of the hottest drivers) with the "mere" upstart (in IndyCar, that is) Scuderia Corsa ride.



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Posted 22 June 2018 - 03:42

It's definitely not Silly enough in here.

 

So let me just leave this Dixon to McLaren rumours article HERE and then run away.   :drunk:

 

https://racer.com/20...-is-ramping-up/



#188 Muppetmad

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 05:25

Why not both Dixon and Alonso? You'd struggle to find a better driver to support Alonso in bringing knowledge to the team. If McLaren are serious about this, they should go big or go home.



#189 Myrvold

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Posted 22 June 2018 - 07:09

Why not both Dixon and Alonso? You'd struggle to find a better driver to support Alonso in bringing knowledge to the team. If McLaren are serious about this, they should go big or go home.


Money I Guess.

#190 Risil

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Posted 23 June 2018 - 11:22

Foyt to keep Kanaan and Leist for 2019.

 

Cool! I like those two.



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Posted 23 June 2018 - 11:26

Foyt to keep Kanaan and Leist for 2019.

Cool! I like those two.


Is Kanaan still up to it?

#192 Risil

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Posted 23 June 2018 - 11:42

He's seemed rejuvenated this year. Looked good at Indy and Texas before trouble struck. He'd be a good outside bet to win one of the remaining ovals this year.

 

A driver like Kanaan is probably invaluable for technical feedback and setup direction too.



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Posted 23 June 2018 - 12:16

He's seemed rejuvenated this year. Looked good at Indy and Texas before trouble struck. He'd be a good outside bet to win one of the remaining ovals this year.

 

A driver like Kanaan is probably invaluable for technical feedback and setup direction too.

 

 

Every time I have picked him he has stuffed up, after looking good early on. I vowed not to pick him again, so his chances of a win have improved significantly.



#194 maximilian

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Posted 23 June 2018 - 14:21

Wow, that is SOME silly season article there!  :eek:  :love:



#195 FLB

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Posted 24 June 2018 - 00:13

It's definitely not Silly enough in here.

 

So let me just leave this Dixon to McLaren rumours article HERE and then run away.   :drunk:

 

https://racer.com/20...-is-ramping-up/

Is Stefan Johansson still Dixon's agent? He may be the missing connexion here.

 

As far as I can remember, Johansson is pretty close to Zak Brown. Johansson has driven for Brown's United Autosport team in the past. They certainly seemed close when I saw them at Mont-Tremblant a couple of years ago.



#196 maximilian

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Posted 24 June 2018 - 13:13

Dixon may well be frustrated with Ganassi reducing their stable, although it's hard to argue that was a bad thing, given that he is leading the championship.  Still would be hard to imagine him in anything other than a Ganassi, but I would be thrilled if we saw Dixon to McLaren and Bourdais to Ganassi.



#197 maximilian

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Posted 24 June 2018 - 19:09

https://racer.com/20...er-this-season/

 

Harding looks to add a second car for 2019 - great news!

 

Also might run a second car already for Sonoma and perhaps more... I wonder if this might be Baltazar Leguizamon's ride coming up for the season's last couple of races (if that was ever indeed a real prospect)?



#198 Risil

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Posted 25 June 2018 - 16:03

Baltazar Legerdemain? What a name.



#199 sblick

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Posted 25 June 2018 - 16:08

Calmin' de Mellow and Legerdemain.  Those aren't TV names.  Can we just call them Smith and Rogers?



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#200 FLB

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Posted 25 June 2018 - 16:16

  Can we just call them Smith and Rogers?

Can't. No driver named 'Smith' has ever made the Indy 500. The closest in name was Sam Schmidt.

 

A ton of 'Jones'es on the other hand.