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#5751 Nonesuch

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Posted 24 September 2018 - 13:25

I don't think Vettel cares about Hamilton at all, he probably doesn't trust his team and that is a big problem

 

Indeed, these guys have plenty of experience and probably won't be too bothered by what someone else does. It's useless.

 

However, frustrations about internal failures are not only more relevant but also much worse. Precisely because those are the people you have to rely on to perform.

 

Drivers talk about this all the time: they need confidence. Not to massage their ego, but to eliminate distractions. They can all drive these cars, that's not the issue.

 


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#5752 Unicast

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Posted 24 September 2018 - 14:59

Ferrari or Vettel, made too many mistakes this year to take the championship, also the last year as well. Seb hits and knocks on other racing car too much, like he did with Ham, or Kimi the last year.

 

I do suspect like Gary Anderson says that a certain part of Ferrari is starting to think that Ferrari needs a stronger No.1 driver. 

Seb got his chance, and could not make it. Like Alonso could not.

Le Clerk seems to fill in the expectation for the No.1 status. 2019 might be considered as the year of transition.

 

This is not bad for racing. HAM vs ALO, VET vs LEC! :clap:

 

Last year I really think we didn't have the overall car/team to win the titles but this year we do have it and this is making it even more painful to watch the team self destruct at the end...

But hey, it's been some time since Ferrari were really a winning team by merit, this year in a long long time (pb since 2010) I can say Ferrari really had a car which could take the title on performance and on merit!

Since we still have a pretty young and inexperienced team, I will put this year as part of the learning process and try to see the full half of the glass... maybe this year will put the finishing touches and we have have a strong next year.

I feel like our team is nearly there but we need to make one last small step... but you know how it is right? The last step is the hardest to take.

 

Regarding Charles, I think he'll need a few years to mature, learn & adapt... that's not to say that he can't challenge for the title next year already - I certainly hope we have a car that car fight again next year... - but that it will take a few more years for him to finally unveil his potential but also gaining the very important experience and maturity! So Charles will not be hitting his peak for a few more years and it's gonna be interesting to see if his natural speed and talent can propel him in the title fight even as early as next year (as long as Ferrari delivers again a competitive car of course)


Edited by Unicast, 24 September 2018 - 15:05.


#5753 Mark123

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Posted 24 September 2018 - 16:07

No driver is naturally 6 tenth faster at this level... this is just a myth for fanboys or people who don't understand F1.
Of course it's very setup wise and there are many factors but speaking of two drivers at roughly the same level (as Vettel & Hamilton) I think the differences are very very slim.
Of course there is also a psychological battle between Vettel & Hamilton... and there, one might argue, that the pressure is getting the best of Seb.
It's strange cause he did experience some close title fights (2010 & 2012) so it's not like he doesn't have experience but maybe the Ferrari factor makes the differences (compared to his days in RedBull)

Sorry, I didn't mean to insinuate Hamilton is 6 tenths faster than anyone else. My point was he has gone 6 tenths faster in 2 qualifying sessions and whilst the other 5 top cars have been similar pace. So entering quali Vettel knows Hamilton (his main rival) is going to be very very quick. So the pressure is huge, take monza and Silverstone in Vettel mind should be guaranteed poles but then Hamilton came from nowhere to be within a tenth. Personally right now i think that the mercedes will win all remaining races if on pole or not, it's too good on its tyres and whatever was wrong before is certainly fixed.

#5754 AlexS

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Posted 24 September 2018 - 16:36

Sorry, I didn't mean to insinuate Hamilton is 6 tenths faster than anyone else. My point was he has gone 6 tenths faster in 2 qualifying sessions and whilst the other 5 top cars have been similar pace. So entering quali Vettel knows Hamilton (his main rival) is going to be very very quick. So the pressure is huge, take monza and Silverstone in Vettel mind should be guaranteed poles but then Hamilton came from nowhere to be within a tenth. Personally right now i think that the mercedes will win all remaining races if on pole or not, it's too good on its tyres and whatever was wrong before is certainly fixed.

 

The pressure is also for Hamilton, and this year when things don't go his way he has had to vent a couple times and even throw a temper tantrum, including complaining about tactics that even a Mercedes guy apologized to him in the radio.

But with all that it does not affect his driving. He does not make more mistakes because of that.


Edited by AlexS, 24 September 2018 - 16:37.


#5755 SCUDmissile

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Posted 24 September 2018 - 16:38

I think he's just not got that connection with the team right now.

They don't trust eachother thanks to him cocking up, then the team cocking up.

Feel like they needed a break over the past weeks to just recharge and clear the air and try and recreate the relationship.

#5756 w1Y

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Posted 24 September 2018 - 18:18

Vettel and ferrari are fine. Yes theres been a few mistakes but theres plenty of time left.

#5757 Risil

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Posted 24 September 2018 - 20:52

New Ferrari thread over here.