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#101 Lights

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 17:27

Felipe Massa: https://www.youtube....h?v=eF5XKuDWq0s

 

To summarize it into one sentence: "For sure, I was driving very well, but I was unlucky you know".



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#102 Marklar

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 17:31

These podcasts have not been going well for Fernando, didnt they

#103 Lights

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 17:52

These podcasts have not been going well for Fernando, didnt they

 

The reaction on Luca's comment was dumb (although even there Luca probably wasn't being very fair), but for the rest I'm not so sure what you're referring to?. For sure, Massa didn't say anything necessarily bad about him, you know.



#104 noikeee

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 18:13

Felipe Massa: https://www.youtube....h?v=eF5XKuDWq0s

To summarize it into one sentence: "For sure, I was driving very well, but I was unlucky you know".


Oh god, if it's as much "poor me" as Perez's was I think I might skip it.

Think that was the only one so far I didn't enjoy much.

#105 Lights

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Posted 07 August 2019 - 06:19

Alex Wurz

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=-C9olP3CbYI

 

Only up to 30 minutes so far, but Alex Wurz really has an interesting story to tell. I 'know' him already for over 15 years but frankly I never knew anything about him. Worth a listen!


Edited by Lights, 07 August 2019 - 06:19.


#106 David Lightman

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Posted 07 August 2019 - 06:26

Yes it's a great podcast and so far the quality hasn't dropped with regard to who they've been able to interview (well apart from Magnussen but I skipped that one).



#107 Spillage

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Posted 07 August 2019 - 09:20

I too am really enjoying the podcast, particularly the edition with Wurz. He strikes me as a man who had the talent but perhaps not the mentality to be very successful, although it sounds like he was pretty well shafted by Flavio.

#108 Anja

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Posted 12 August 2019 - 11:18

After a great episode with Wurz there's another fantastic one with Jacky Ickx. Hitting really high quality right now. 



#109 Jovanotti

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Posted 12 August 2019 - 15:23

Listening to the Wurz episode right now. Love his commentary on Austrian TV. What a guy :up: Great moment when he told how he met Flavio Briatore in his silk bathrobe  :rotfl: 



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Posted 17 October 2019 - 12:37

Ralf Schumacher podcast is well worth a listen, some super interesting stories: https://www.youtube....h?v=aYizahb30SY

 

I quite like how Tom Clarkson has toned down his approach and isn't attempting to make Ralf cry, unlike some of the earlier podcasts.



#111 Anuity

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 12:49

It’s interesting to note that neither Alex, Ralf, or Jenson have very high opinion about Fisichella (or at least that’s how it sounds to me). He always came across as a pretty nice guy. Wurz even suggests he himself was the better one in 1998, which was pretty crazy to hear, because he was clearly not.
Not saying Fisi was super special but I think he had more natural talent/speed than Wurz and I would dare to say a bit better than Ralf.

But anyways, all of this are quite interesting to hear, they have interesting stories. It is of course understandable views on their teammates/comparisons, etc.

It would be great if they could add some footage to assist some of the stories, I mean it’s 2019, there is no reason to have just an audio. Also I feel that the interviewer does not always have the most interesting questions/themes covered, it’s a bit bland.
With Jenson they did not even touch on Mchonda thing even though it would be interesting to hear it from Jenson now.

All in all, I find interviews from Rosberg (with Briatore, Bernie etc) much more interesting and more rich in content. It also seems he is less afraid to ask inconvenient questions.

Edited by Anuity, 17 October 2019 - 13:04.


#112 Stephane

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 13:36

It would be great if they could add some footage to assist some of the stories, I mean it’s 2019, there is no reason to have just an audio. 

 

You know what a podcast is, right ?



#113 Anuity

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 13:40

You know what a podcast is, right ?


Yeah, it’s not popular/virtually does not exist where I’m from though. I don’t understand the need for it to be so retro/outdated in 2019. I mean, they post the thing on YouTube, it’s not like it’s being broadcast on some FM station.

Edited by Anuity, 17 October 2019 - 13:42.


#114 Stephane

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 14:02

youtube is just one of the many ways to listen to it. I use google podcast in my car, personally.



#115 Lights

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 14:03

I quite like how Tom Clarkson has toned down his approach and isn't attempting to make Ralf cry, unlike some of the earlier podcasts.

 

Do you have some examples of this? I've listened to almost all of them and I don't recall this happening. Tom is usually careful, he could ask much more inconvenient questions. 


Edited by Lights, 17 October 2019 - 14:05.


#116 Anuity

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 14:12

youtube is just one of the many ways to listen to it. I use google podcast in my car, personally.


Ok, fair enough, that’s your preference.
But I think it would still be nice as an option to make it a bit more “visual”, especially since Liberty in general is much more social media oriented with bunch of instagram and YouTube videos.

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 14:14

Its a podcast, it’s supposed to be audio only.

Thats the concept of podcasts.

#118 Lights

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 14:18

Its a podcast, it’s supposed to be audio only.

Thats the concept of podcasts.

 

Video podcasting is a thing. 

 

But personally, with Beyond the Grid I'm totally fine with audio only. It's nice to listen to in the car. Plus it's nice to give your eyes a rest in a while, they're already staring at a screen most of your life.


Edited by Lights, 17 October 2019 - 14:19.


#119 Anuity

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 14:31

Its a podcast, it’s supposed to be audio only.

Thats the concept of podcasts.


That is very clear. It does not change that I personally find such a concept extremely outdated. But each to his own.

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 14:37

That is very clear. It does not change that I personally find such a concept extremely outdated. But each to his own.

 

There's a pretty strong trend going on in the media sector towards more audio focus and less visual focus. Many people stare at screens the whole day (me included sadly ;)), and those people really appreciate a way of delivery that does not require a visual stimulus. 

 

Podcasts are booming actually and getting more and more popular. 



#121 Lights

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 14:41

Also I feel that the interviewer does not always have the most interesting questions/themes covered, it’s a bit bland.
With Jenson they did not even touch on Mchonda thing even though it would be interesting to hear it from Jenson now.

All in all, I find interviews from Rosberg (with Briatore, Bernie etc) much more interesting and more rich in content. It also seems he is less afraid to ask inconvenient questions.

 

It's getting a bit bland after awhile because Tom seems to have the same checklist for every interview.

 

- How did the racing fever start? Was it your dad?

- *Be amazed about how incredible someone's breakthrough story is*

- Can you just explain how <> happened?

- Let's talk teammates! Who was the best? What made them special?

- How frustrating must <> have been?

- Favorite cars! Which was the best car?

- What was your happiest time in F1?

- *Remarks/jokes about having children as a racer because Tom is a dad too and wants to share that with everyone*

- Do you wants your kids to be racing drivers?

- If you could have done anything differently in your career, what would it be?

- *Thank the interviewee profusely for sharing the most fascinating stories ever*


Edited by Lights, 17 October 2019 - 14:46.


#122 potmotr

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 14:42

Do you have some examples of this? I've listened to almost all of them and I don't recall this happening. Tom is usually careful, he could ask much more inconvenient questions. 

 

Charles Leclerc?  



#123 CornishFellow

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 15:21

It's getting a bit bland after awhile because Tom seems to have the same checklist for every interview.

 

- How did the racing fever start? Was it your dad?

- *Be amazed about how incredible someone's breakthrough story is*

- Can you just explain how <> happened?

- Let's talk teammates! Who was the best? What made them special?

- How frustrating must <> have been?

- Favorite cars! Which was the best car?

- What was your happiest time in F1?

- *Remarks/jokes about having children as a racer because Tom is a dad too and wants to share that with everyone*

- Do you wants your kids to be racing drivers?

- If you could have done anything differently in your career, what would it be?

- *Thank the interviewee profusely for sharing the most fascinating stories ever*

Yes I agree they're getting rather boring. The Kimi interview could have been so much better. Some conversation points:

 

1) His car handling preferences, like:

        - How he liked the 2005 McLaren driving wise

        - Why it was so different from how he liked the 2007/8 Ferraris

        - Michelin lowdown

2) Relationship with Ron

3) Dynamic with Michael Schumacher after signing for Ferrari in mid-2005

4) The story of being turfed out of Ferrari 2009. And his conversation with LDM when asked to come back!

5) How Alonso was towards him in 2014 compared to other years

5) More about his competitive relationships with teammates and drivers, and Whitmarsh, management, etc

 

BTG is more like Michael Parkinson type interviews these days.



#124 Anuity

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 16:00

There's a pretty strong trend going on in the media sector towards more audio focus and less visual focus. Many people stare at screens the whole day (me included sadly ;)), and those people really appreciate a way of delivery that does not require a visual stimulus.

Podcasts are booming actually and getting more and more popular.

I suppose it depends on a region then because I’m seeing completely the opposite. I also don’t know anyone personally who is listening/watching these type of podcasts. Anyways, sometimes I also just click on a YouTube video without actually watching it (although that’s rare). I was just pointing out that for such an action driven sport it would be nice to have a possibility to see the physical reactions/mimics of these guys about certain questions as well as seeing some nice video footage for certain moments.
I remember them myself generally quite well, although if it’s involving drivers from older generation (Stewart, etc) then i don’t have much clue and it would be nice for information/education to see what Exactly is being discussed.
If you don’t like to watch you always can listen, but I’m sure lot of people would like it to be an actual video and I don’t think it’s so much of an effort for F1 to make it visual.

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#125 Marklar

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 16:02

I'm actually pretty much *only* listening to youtube videos because I need my screen to do other things :lol:

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Posted 19 October 2019 - 06:24

Ralf Schumacher podcast is well worth a listen, some super interesting stories: https://www.youtube....h?v=aYizahb30SY

I quite like how Tom Clarkson has toned down his approach and isn't attempting to make Ralf cry, unlike some of the earlier podcasts.

It was typical Ralf imo. Always found him overrated as a driver, bland as a character and a little insecure about his ultimate level/ability. He likes to talk himself up as if he's trying to prove something.

The way he goes on about Spa 1998 is ridiculous. Sure once the safety car was out, he was then right behind Damon but you could understand EJ wanting them to hold station. What Ralf fails to mention however is Hill tonked him in qualy (8 tenths), led the race at various stages and Ralf was actually nowhere near him until the SC.

The Williams drive - he talks like he was a first option and shoe in there for 1999. Fact is it was Jacques deciding to leave that prompted the whole Zanardi/R.Schumacher pairing. Until JV pulled the pin, Williams wanted Villeneuve/Montoya (test driver in '98) for 1999. So Ralf, to a degree, was pretty fortunate to end up there.

Perhaps it's selective amnesia. I noticed that with a few tidbits he mentioned. I also noticed how much he earnt in his F1 career and, given his ultimate level, he did extremely well. BMW and Toyota paid him through the roof.

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Posted 19 October 2019 - 07:08

It was typical Ralf imo.
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He likes to talk himself up as if he's trying to prove something.
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Perhaps it's selective amnesia. I noticed that with a few tidbits he mentioned

I also noticed this, it's sadly quite common among (retired) F1 drivers. They all like to mention their good moments and act like the bad ones didn't happen or that those were down to bad luck. Massa is an extreme example of this, but also Button (and I was a big fan) does this all the time in his books and interviews. To me it would earn more respect if they could just owe up to stuff. Just cut the crap. Your F1 career is over, let it go.

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Posted 19 October 2019 - 07:28

I also noticed this, it's sadly quite common among (retired) F1 drivers. They all like to mention their good moments and act like the bad ones didn't happen or that those were down to bad luck. Massa is an extreme example of this, but also Button (and I was a big fan) does this all the time in his books and interviews. To me it would earn more respect if they could just owe up to stuff. Just cut the crap. Your F1 career is over, let it go.

Yeah do agree. I wasn't just targeting Ralf, he's not alone in that regard. Though he's likely imo one of the worst.

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Posted 19 October 2019 - 07:57

Yeah do agree. I wasn't just targeting Ralf, he's not alone in that regard. Though he's likely imo one of the worst.

 

I think you are overreaching when you speak about Williams in 1999, the way I got it from what he said was that as of Belgium 98, he knew he didn't want/wasn't wanted at Jordan in 99, and so asked his manager to find him a new team.

The fact that by this point Williams approached him isn't him saying he was on top of their list, all it meant was that by that race he was the best option on Williams list, he doesn't even talk about the current drivers just that Williams had a space and so it seemed his best bet.

 

And on the 98 Belgium GP, he was far behind Hill earlier on agreed, but the important part is to note he was quicker after the safety car came out and therefore at the time the team order came out it is a relevant point, and his assessment about Hill threatening to take him out if he tried to pass on the radio was also true (from what I can remember of the clip) but he does say he completely agrees with the team order as a team owner himself. 

 

That said just on the podcasts themselves, I do think they've become a little bit repetitive and none of the hard hitting questions are getting asked from the ones i've listened too recently definitely more formulaic, and I wonder if this is the nature of it being the Official F1 podcast and not just another F1 podcast, ie what instructions has Tom had to be light and fluffy if possib



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Posted 19 October 2019 - 08:01

I've listened to the Alan Jones one several times, definitely my favourite story teller.

These would be so much better if they included the video the video.

Maybe he needs to get the audience to compile questions for conversation on a list of upcoming prospects. That would be some good fan interaction.

I agree the format is very samey, but there are some real gems on there. Gordon Murray was also excellent.

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Posted 19 October 2019 - 09:53

I also noticed this, it's sadly quite common among (retired) F1 drivers. They all like to mention their good moments and act like the bad ones didn't happen or that those were down to bad luck. Massa is an extreme example of this, but also Button (and I was a big fan) does this all the time in his books and interviews. To me it would earn more respect if they could just owe up to stuff. Just cut the crap. Your F1 career is over, let it go.


Agreed, Jenson also pretends as if the McLaren Honda project didn't happen in his career... I mean come on that is super interesting to hear about from his viewpoint but it's only his usual Honda love PR.

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Posted 19 October 2019 - 09:58

I also noticed this, it's sadly quite common among (retired) F1 drivers. They all like to mention their good moments and act like the bad ones didn't happen or that those were down to bad luck.


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Posted 21 October 2019 - 22:47

I also noticed this, it's sadly quite common among (retired) F1 drivers. They all like to mention their good moments and act like the bad ones didn't happen or that those were down to bad luck. Massa is an extreme example of this, but also Button (and I was a big fan) does this all the time in his books and interviews. To me it would earn more respect if they could just owe up to stuff. Just cut the crap. Your F1 career is over, let it go.


Massa was I believe genuinely very talented but peaked in 2008. He was a match for the original Schumacher in the same car and Michael was no slouch in '06. I think 2008 took too much out of Felipe and he never really recovered from losing that championship fight

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Posted 23 October 2019 - 11:51

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Posted 23 October 2019 - 12:01

Ralf Schumacher podcast is well worth a listen, some super interesting stories: https://www.youtube....h?v=aYizahb30SY

 

I quite like how Tom Clarkson has toned down his approach and isn't attempting to make Ralf cry, unlike some of the earlier podcasts.

 

I found Ralf a bit inflated, yet lacking in self confidence which pretty much sums him up.  He was a good driver, not a great one and was fine as long as he didn't have to overtake anyone, which was his weakest area. 

 

He didn't go deep enough into the Williams/BMW rift and was careful not to name names - maybe because he has a son that might work for either of the companies one day? 



#136 David Lightman

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Posted 23 October 2019 - 17:39

It's understandable but wouldn't you love it if everybody named names. Not difficult to guess that Mike Gascoine was one of the people Ralf slated though.



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Posted 23 October 2019 - 18:48

I enjoy most of these because of the subject, but as far as telling good stories, Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s podcast or Kyle Petty's interviews are a million times better. Maybe Nascar guys are just better at it. Some of Nico Rosberg's interviews have been surprisingly good, as someone mentioned earlier.



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Posted 30 October 2019 - 14:59

This weeks Beyond the Grid is 1hr 41m of Mario Andretti.  I cannot wait to listen to this one!

 

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#139 InSearchOfThe

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Posted 30 October 2019 - 18:07

Interesting Lotus 78/79 inception story.

 



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#140 blackmme

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Posted 10 November 2019 - 08:38

Interesting Lotus 78/79 inception story.

 

First time I have heard that story and I’m not sure it’s entirely credible TBH, especially as a few minutes later Mario  contradicts himself with a comment about how ACBC would fly in a rage if a driver suggested a  contribution to the design process!

 

The interview was great though, and what a legendary figure Mario is.

 

 

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#141 TomNokoe

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Posted Yesterday, 23:52



Not listened yet but already heard good things