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[Vielleicht]

[Vielleicht]

For german passionates,, ARD & ZDF will show FE this Season!

http://www.fiaformul...ans-in-germany/

This possibly more significant than the BBC news(which is great and has huge potential, obviously) but this is more mainstream TV access to a country who will soon have 4 of it's largest car manufacturers in FE. When the Berlin ePrix was shown on live TV last year, it pulled in 1.5m (20% share).

[thegamer23]

[RSRally]

Jaguar iPace Trophy car test: https://youtu.be/AXtr7z4wVgY

This car actually has more power and torque than the Gen2 FE car, but it weighs around 2 tonnes.

[JavierDeVivre]

Jaguar iPace Trophy car test: https://youtu.be/AXtr7z4wVgY

This car actually has more power and torque than the Gen2 FE car, but it weighs around 2 tonnes.

I love one of the comments on the video.

 

"But out of all cars why an SUV? Wouldn’t sports car provide a more entertaining race?"

 

What and embarrass the FE cars? An SUV was picked on purpose.

[Vielleicht]

I love one of the comments on the video.

 

"But out of all cars why an SUV? Wouldn’t sports car provide a more entertaining race?"

 

What and embarrass the FE cars? An SUV was picked on purpose.

Because it's Jaguar's first and currently only EV on sale?

[Vielleicht]

 

Looks like for that first 'Attack Zone', drivers will have at least maintain the T17 radius through to the inside of the track to get the boost.

[Vielleicht]

[thegamer23]

That BMW looks planted     

Alexander Sims did great in Valencia, very much looking forward to see what he can do in a race weekend. 
 

 

Also becoming a fan of his helmet

 

 

Edited by thegamer23, 07 December 2018 - 23:10.

[Ben1445]

I’ve got a feeling BMW will either nail it or do an Audi season 4 and be the car to beat in all but reliability.

[Muppetmad]

Whatever the ultimate pecking order will be, I doubt it will reflect in the results in the first race: it sounds like there is a lot of new stuff for the teams to get to grips with that will create a very unusual race.

[RSRally]

UK tv schedule for Saudi: https://f1broadcasti...istmas-reviews/

[Ben1445]

Vernon Kay has transfered to the world feed alongside Shields? Interesting

[thegamer23]

Now that's a surprise!

A 25 minutes long preview show, and that's only Part 1!

[thegamer23]

Porsche to begin testing in March, 1st driver announcement soon

https://e-racing365....ouncement-soon/

 

 

Edited by thegamer23, 08 December 2018 - 21:35.

[NorwegianRudo]

I'm going to guess Hartley for the driver announcement.

[Silberpfeil]

Porsche should just keep that livery. Add a sponsor or two, but leave the rest of the space blank. The car looks amazing like this, especially the lettering on the side of the nose.

One of the most interesting storylines for me personally will be who Mercedes chooses as their actual race drivers for Season Six now that Pascal Wehrlein has become permanently unavailable, to put it charitably. If both Gary and Stoffel do well, there’s no reason to change things (other than perhaps the latter’s ambition to move back into F1, should an opportunity present itself), but if one of them is noticeably slower than the other, a Mercedes seat might become one of the prime targets for drivers.

[NorwegianRudo]

One of the most interesting storylines for me personally will be who Mercedes chooses as their actual race drivers for Season Six now that Pascal Wehrlein has become permanently unavailable, to put it charitably. If both Gary and Stoffel do well, there’s no reason to change things (other than perhaps the latter’s ambition to move back into F1, should an opportunity present itself), but if one of them is noticeably slower than the other, a Mercedes seat might become one of the prime targets for drivers.

 

Sam Smith claimed a few months ago they were aiming for a champion/established race winner to head up their team. If that is the case there should be an almighty fight between Paffett/Vandoorne and Mortara to get the remaining seat. For the record, my pick as most likely target was Sam Bird, with Buemi second and Rosenqvist as a wild card because of his (at the time rumoured) Indycar career. 

[Vielleicht]

I'd have Hartley and Jani down as most likely candidates for Porsche FE. Jani seemed to leave Dragon not after a miserable opener but becuase of 'a change in direction' at the team - widely assumed to be the Porsche partnership going down the pan 

[NorwegianRudo]

At the Porsche event in Stuttgart last night it was announced that their FE driver announcement (only one driver) would come in the next ten days, and that Brendon Hartley would remain a Porsche factory driver for 2019. Whether those two announcements are connected I will leave up to you to decide.

[Vielleicht]

Bit of a technical question perhaps but any guesses as to what that small hole in the power-train cover is so noticeably visible on this lovely white Porsche Gen2 is for?

[BRG]

Bit of a technical question perhaps but any guesses as to what that small hole in the power-train cover is so noticeably visible on this lovely white Porsche Gen2 is for?

 

That's the fuel filler of course. Surely you didn't really believe that these were battery powered cars?

[Ben1445]

It's not a charging port is it? Or maybe just an access port for adjustments to the dampers or something like that... Good question. 

[RSRally]

Dragon leaking their new livery day by day with a different image on their Twitter, Facebook and Instagram feeds. Looks like no BWT pink and that the leak on FE’s video last week was accurate:

https://m.facebook.c...f=page_internal

https://mobile.twitt...xdragon?lang=en

https://www.instagram.com/geoxdragon/

Edited by RSRally, 10 December 2018 - 05:49.

[Kalmake]

Bit of a technical question perhaps but any guesses as to what that small hole in the power-train cover is so noticeably visible on this lovely white Porsche Gen2 is for?

 

Other pictures have the red E mark next to it. At least in F1 that sets off on board extinguisher and turns off all electricity. Could the hole be for battery cooling and also a good path put out a battery fire?

[thegamer23]

I asked about it to an engineer that's working with FE, it's an accessible charging point!

 

Weird that we haven't noticed it before!

Edited by thegamer23, 10 December 2018 - 10:53.

[RSRally]

Season preview part 2:

https://youtube.com/...h?v=Lyxi3epE8es

Edited by RSRally, 12 December 2018 - 05:56.

[Vielleicht]

I asked about it to an engineer that's working with FE, it's an accessible charging point!

 

Weird that we haven't noticed it before!

That's cool, thanks for finding that out!

[thegamer23]

Neel Jani is the 1st Porsche driver for S6

https://e-racing365....ormula-e-entry/

 

[Ben1445]

Welcome back Neel! Shame Dragon didn’t work out and toasted his reputation for some, but I’m sure with ample preparation he’ll do well with Porsche

[NorwegianRudo]

It wasn't great for his reputation how terrible he (and Dragon) looked in Hong Kong, only for Lopez to come in and almost get a podium in the next race. Of course Lotterer also looked awful in both Hong Kong and Marrakech before sorting himself out, so it hardly guarantees he's going to be terrible in the Porsche with more track time in preparation.

[Burai]

Welcome back Neel! Shame Dragon didn’t work out and toasted his reputation for some, but I’m sure with ample preparation he’ll do well with Porsche

 

Dragon were only running him because they thought Porsche would choose them to partner with. I don't think anyone truly believes he was dropped for his performance.

 

This was always his inevitable destination. Great to see another first class driver in the series.

[HistoryFan]

team mate could be Brendon Hartley.

[Nigel Beresford]

That's cool, thanks for finding that out!

It’s actually an access hole for connecting a quick release coupling to the battery to enable it to be flooded with water in the event of a thermal runaway

Edited by Nigel Beresford, 14 December 2018 - 16:33.

[NorwegianRudo]

Interesting tidbit in this article. They mention that for gen 3 figures of 650hp are being talked about. Just going from memory, I think that is just slightly less than double gen 2?

[Ben1445]

Yeah would be around about that. I’m sure those kind of numbers are being talked about (just can’t comment on how realistic they are!) As I understand it the extension of Gen2’s lifetime from 3 to 4 seasons is to make the most of EV advances, so who knows. Maybe 600+ HP FE does await us in the early 2020s...

Gonna need a drastic venue refresh/update in that timeframe though if so.

[Fatgadget]

Interesting tidbit in this article. They mention that for gen 3 figures of 650hp are being talked about. Just going from memory, I think that is just slightly less than double gen 2?

The potential  problem I for-see with these ever more  powerfully iterations of  leccy cars  is packing that amount of energy in ever more a confined space is literally creating a bomb of increasing magnitude  should something go awry...And we all know storage  batteries do explode should something untoward happens  ...It's only a matter of time before that 'Appens  should anyone ask me.

[Dolph]

The potential  problem I for-see with these ever more  powerfully iterations of  leccy cars  is packing that amount of energy in ever more a confined space is literally creating a bomb of increasing magnitude  should something go awry...And we all know storage  batteries do explode should something untoward happens  ...It's only a matter of time before that 'Appens  should anyone ask me.

 

So does gasoline.

[Dolph]

I'd really love to see a race, where they go flat out, then they pull into the garage, put the car to charge up again, the drivers sit in a predefined caffee-type area, where they drink coffee, have a cigarette, exchange views on the race so far (we get to listen to it) and then sit back in the car and race off.

Edited by Dolph, 16 December 2018 - 01:45.

[BalanceUT]

I'd really love to see a race, where they go flat out, then they pull into the garage, put the car to charge up again, the drivers sit in a predefined caffee-type area, where they drink coffee, have a cigarette, exchange views on the race so far (we get to listen to it) and then sit back in the car and race off.

I love folks who think technology stands still. 

 

The Gen 3 cars, about 4 years out are hoped to include fast charging so that pit stops resemble other series' pit stops with fueling. Massive heat dissipation will be the real issue if that comes to pass. But, it also will point the way forward for much faster charging everyday road cars. 

[Vielleicht]

4 years, 3 months, 2 days:

 

 

Edited by Vielleicht, 16 December 2018 - 11:06.

[NorwegianRudo]

This is certainly interesting, from Sam Smith's post testing notebook:

 

***The FIA and Formula E are rumoured to be considering the possibility of reducing the 52 kW/h usable energy via the battery. Discussions are known to have taken place between FIA officials and teams about defining the energy amount for certain circuits.

***The rationale behind downscaling the usable energy is to combat the prospect of races morphing in to sprints after lengthy Full Course Yellow or safety car periods. This means that any strategic advantage of saving energy during the race is negated possibly leading to final laps of races promoting a stalemate

 

This would seem to be a byproduct of moving to timed races. I'll guess we're probably going back to a set number of laps next year?

[Kalmake]

Not rocket science to add time on the clock depending on how long SC is out.

[maximilian]

This is certainly interesting, from Sam Smith's post testing notebook:

 

 I'll guess we're probably going back to a set number of laps next year?

 

I hope by "next year" you mean beginning with the Marrakech race in January 2019!     I would certainly like to see that.

[SonGoku]

Why time instead of laps anyway? It only makes sense in F1 when the Singapore race will never end. A few laps behind the SC won't hurt, but you can lose a huge amount of time behind it.

[RSRally]

I think they shouldn't fiddle with it yet.. that happened in Riyadh yet they still were battling for position to the end.

Seems stupid to fit a bigger battery and then reduce it's capacity artificially.

[maximilian]

I think they shouldn't fiddle with it yet.. that happened in Riyadh yet they still were battling for position to the end.
 

 

Basically fans were robbed of watching the battle for the win unfold, because too much time was wasted under FCY, and then AFdC used FanBoobs to open just enough gap to make it over the line.  One more lap, and he would have been toast, as he should have been.

[RSRally]

Basically fans were robbed of watching the battle for the win unfold, because too much time was wasted under FCY, and then AFdC used FanBoobs to open just enough gap to make it over the line. One more lap, and he would have been toast, as he should have been.

I understand what you mean about going back to a set number of laps, but how would FE's solution of reducing battery capacity have helped?

[Juanto]

What about the test times of the females after the race? Were they so dreadful that FE didnt even release them?

[Ben1445]

What about the test times of the females after the race? Were they so dreadful that FE didnt even release them?

There were in fact released for all to see. Yes, they were generally towards the rear of the field - but then they were up against drivers had more experience in the cars and who had also been driving them the previous day in the ePrix. They were also largely following set testing programs for the teams, which far from always involve going as fast as you can. 

 

So basically I don't think any decisive conclusions can be drawn from them.