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[NixxxoN]

After the announcement that Kimi is joining sauber next year, I thought of that.

 

Kimi -> Ferrari and Sauber twice

Alonso -> Renault and McLaren twice

 

 

Anyone else?

Edited by NixxxoN, 11 September 2018 - 13:11.

[sopa]

Fisichella - Jordan and Enstone (Benetton/Renault) twice. 

[SirVanhan]

Berger: Ferrari and Benetton twice.

[Bleu]

Philippe Alliot for Ligier and Lola/Larrousse

Edited by Bleu, 11 September 2018 - 15:06.

[eibyyz]

Mario:  Ferrari twice and Lotus three times.

[Trust]

Did anyone join Ferrari three times? Or Kimi will be the first one.

[NixxxoN]

Mario:  Ferrari twice and Lotus three times.

We have a winner so far, technically he joined also Parnelli twice

[DeKnyff]

Mario:  Ferrari twice and Lotus three times.

Three times at Lotus?

[eibyyz]

Three times at Lotus?

 

Maybe four if you count Monza 1967.  Also fall 1968, LBGP 1976, and again in 1976 from Sweden on.

[DeKnyff]

Maybe four if you count Monza 1967.  Also fall 1968, LBGP 1976, and again in 1976 from Sweden on.

Yeah, but those were not complete seasons. Things were different back then.

[Cornholio]

Clay Regazzoni joined Ferrari and Ensign twice.

 

And while technically two different "Williams" teams, Jacques Laffite drove for both FWRC (1974-75) and WGPE (1983-84), with two periods at Ligier either side of his "second" Williams stint.

 

Laffite and Heikki Kovalainen seem to share the distinction of having driven for two separate teams with the same name, Heikki having driven for Enstone (as Kimi sub) and Team Tony when both were called "Lotus", while also having a prior full-time Enstone stint under the Renault name 

 

EDIT: Thought of Ronnie Peterson (March & Lotus) too, and while not meeting the multiple teams criteria of the thread I always think any excuse to give Piercarlo Ghinzani's whopping four shifts at Osella an honourable mention.

Edited by Cornholio, 11 September 2018 - 16:44.

[DeKnyff]

Ronnie Peterson joined March and Lotus twice.

[messy]

Massa - Sauber twice, Williams twice (well kind of)

[Nonesuch]

Massa - Sauber twice, Williams twice (well kind of)

 

There's always one of those quirks in every stat that can spawn endless discussion over whether or not to include it.

[messy]

Nick Heidfeld also had three separate spells at Sauber, 2001-03, 2006-09 and 2010. I'm on fire now. That's all I got, though.

[NewMrMe]

Martin Brundle had 2 spells at Brabham (89 and 91), Ligier (93 and 95) in F1 and Jaguar in the World Sportscar Championship (88 and 90).

[Zippel]

Mansell joined Williams 3 times (85, 91, 94).

Frentzen joined Sauber twice (94, 02). Three times if you include Sportscar.

[Gary Davies]

Graham Hill. Team Lotus 1958. And again in 1967.

[4444]

Prost - McLaren

 

At least twice.

[messy]

Mansell joined Williams 3 times (85, 91, 94).

Frentzen joined Sauber twice (94, 02). Three times if you include Sportscar.

 

He also reportedly almost re-signed for Jordan at one point didn't he? Didn't they try to re-sign him as a one-off or to cover for another driver? Was it in 2004? 

Edited by messy, 12 September 2018 - 06:57.

[SpeedRacer`]

Fisichella - Jordan and Enstone (Benetton/Renault) twice. 

 

Jordan 3 times if you discount the change in ownership 

 

1997

2002-2003

2008-2009

[Anderis]

Mansell joined Williams 3 times (85, 91, 94).

Frentzen joined Sauber twice (94, 02). Three times if you include Sportscar.

If we count drivers joining the same team multiple times, then Kvyat joined Toro Rosso three times.

[RacingGreen]

Jackie Ickx drove for Ferrari twice (1968, and then again 1970-73) after which he had a one off drive for Frank Williams (USA 1973) before re-joining the Frank Williams/Wolf team for the start of 1976.

 

Andrea de Cesaris had two spells for Alfa Romeo (1980 & 82/83) and two spells for Jordan (91 & two races in 94.)

 

Of course if we are allowed to include one off drives there must be many others back in the early days - Sterling spings to mind as having two spells at Maserati and three for Rob Walker (punctuated by occasional drives for BRM and a season at Vanwall) and two spells for Vanwall (if you count the one off drive for Rob Walker in Argentina in 1958.)  

Edited by RacingGreen, 13 September 2018 - 00:17.

[Zippel]

He also reportedly almost re-signed for Jordan at one point didn't he? Didn't they try to re-sign him as a one-off or to cover for another driver? Was it in 2004?

Jordan wanted him for France 2002 to temporarily replace one of their drivers but Arrows stopped that. Then Jordan wanted him for 2004 but he said take Heidfeld instead.

[Rob G]

Maurice Trintignant drove for Ferrari in 1954-55 and 1957, and Rob Walker in 1958-60 and 1962. He also did one-offs in Louis Rosier's car in 1952 and 1954, and for Scuderia Centro-Sud he did one race in 1958, four in 1960, and another one in 1963.

[Rob G]

Jose Froilan Gonzalez was with Ferrari in 1951 and 1954, plus one-offs in 1957 and 1960, and with Maserati in 1952-53 and one race in 1956.

[RacingGreen]

Just thought of an interesting one Jean-Pierre Jarier who drove for three teams twice.  

 

In 1974 he joined Shadow where he stayed for basically 3 years before going to ATS in 1977, but he left before the end of the year having one off drives for both Shadow (again) and Ligier. At the start of 1978 he rejoined ATS.  Several years and several teams later in 1983 he rejoined Ligier.

 

 

 

Edit changed "Jarrier" in original post to correct spelling with one r of "Jarier"  after seeing Tim's correction below.  

Edited by RacingGreen, 13 September 2018 - 04:43.

[Tim Murray]

Jarier also drove for Ligier in the first two races of 1981, so had three separate stints with them.

[messy]

Jordan wanted him for France 2002 to temporarily replace one of their drivers but Arrows stopped that. Then Jordan wanted him for 2004 but he said take Heidfeld instead.

 

Interestingly I read an interview with Eddie Jordan just the other day where he said that in 2001 they were committed to Takuma Sato for 2002 with a bag of cash from Honda I think, and therefore had to ditch one of their drivers. At the time they thought Trulli was their long-term lead driver so they made it known Frentzen would be making way and that's when the relationship crumbled. As it was, they lost Trulli to Renault and suddenly had a vacancy again, and tried to get Frentzen back a few times. Unsurprisingly I think he told them where to go.

[Cornholio]

Lorenzo Bandini started out in Scuderia Centro Sud's Cooper-Maserati, did a partial programme at Ferrari in '62, before back to Centro Sud (now running a BRM), before re-joining Ferrari mid-1963 for the rest of his career. That's just in terms of F1 WDC races though, think he was on Ferrari's payroll (for sportscar races etc.) consecutively from '62 onwards.

[Sterzo]

Fangio raced for Maserati in 1952/53 and returned to them for 1957, winning the championship that year.

[PayasYouRace]

By my reckoning Fangio is also the only driver to have won the championship in both his stints with the same team.

[sopa]

Interestingly I read an interview with Eddie Jordan just the other day where he said that in 2001 they were committed to Takuma Sato for 2002 with a bag of cash from Honda I think, and therefore had to ditch one of their drivers. At the time they thought Trulli was their long-term lead driver so they made it known Frentzen would be making way and that's when the relationship crumbled. As it was, they lost Trulli to Renault and suddenly had a vacancy again, and tried to get Frentzen back a few times. Unsurprisingly I think he told them where to go.

 

Funny that.

 

Listened to 2001 French GP qualifying recently a bit, where Brundle said something like that - Frentzen has a nice long-term contract with Jordan, which should take the pressure off him and his long-term future is secured. Well, fast forward a couple of weekends and...