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[Max Torque]

Is it Ralf or Ralph Schumacher? I think it is Ralf.
Is it Coult-Hard, or Coul-Thard? I think it is Coul-Thard.
Is it Bar, or Be-Ei-Ar (spelled as initials)? I say it like bar
Is it Barritsello, or Barrikello ? I say it with the ts.
Is it Potenza like Monza, or do you spell it with a z?

[Pascal]

- Definitely Ralf
- According to what I've always heard from British people, it's Coul-thard
- BAR. It's shorter to say, and I still find the name funny...
- Barrichello being originally an Italian name (one R was added), I pronounce it the Italian way: Barrikello
- Doesn't Monza have a Z too?

[Max Torque]

Monza we call Montsa, no?

[MP4/?]

-It's Ralf
-I always say Coul-Hard but many people say Coul-thard
-I prefer BAR as a whole word
-It's Barrikello
-Monza=Potenza

[Williams]

Ralf (I pronounce it Ralf-ee)

I say Colt-hard. In some parts of Britain it's Cool-thard.

BAR is easier to say than Bee-Eh-Are. It's just the name of a big faceless corporation, so who cares ?;)

Barrikello

What is Potenza ?

[Pascal]

Originally posted by Williams
What is Potenza ?

Think Bridgestone...;)

[MP4/?]

Originally posted by Williams
What is Potenza ?

Bridgestone Potenza the #1 Formula 1 tyres.....

[RedBaron]

Barikello

Coul-thard

Be Ay R (spelt with letters)

Shoe macer NOT Shoe marcher a NOWAY Shoemaker

Though I will accpet Schumaster ;)

Mon zer

Ry con en - Raikkonen (thats official as it came from the horses mouth)

[Ross Stonefeld]

someone needs to poke a hole in the raft keeping the UK afloat. They need to learn a lesson about putting the R sound after words ending in A

[Williams]

Protenza ... Ah tires...

I say Rye-ka-nan. RedBaron by "con" do you mean "cone" ?

[schumigal]

Someone should tell that to Alan JOnes!

He pronounce Barrichello as Barri chello and Villeneurve and Vi ler nerve. Sounds really awful!!

[bira]

All the Italians I met call Rubens Barri - Chello (the 'ch' pronounced like the ch in 'chair');

Schumacher is correctly pronounced as Shoe-macher (the 'ch has no equivalent sound in English, but is very common in German/Dutch languages).

and I've yet to hear someone in the paddock refer to BAR as bar. For some reason they keep on saying Bee-Aye-Are

On, and the Z is definitely pronounced in Monza.

[Williams]

Shoo-maw-kur. If you're German (like my mother), you gargle the 'K' with an "H" after it and the final syllable is kind of a kkkhah.

[Bjorn]

Shumacha

ch = ch in Scottish Loch

The Germans tend not to pronounce syllable final 'r's, just as in English Received pronunciation (RP), but instead lengthen their vowel a bit. (Compare, say Bird and Bud in RP.)

[Pascal]

Originally posted by bira
All the Italians I met call Rubens Barri - Chello (the 'ch' pronounced like the ch in 'chair')

"Ma che cosa dice?"

We obviously haven't met the same Italians! ;)

[sek]

-Ralf Suumahher
-Kuultaard
-Parizello
-Montsa

no?;)

[B.Traven]

In Brazil everybody pronounces Ruben's surname as "BariKelo"

[Mickey]

Definately Barrikello, thank you Pascal

As for Potenza (it means "power", BTW, but there is also a town in Italy with the same name) it is like Monza, (kind of like "ts", indeed), however, the Z in Monza is a little softer to pronounce than in Potenza.

[selena]

It is definitely Ralf.
The pronunciation is Barikelo.
As for the Scots driver, it sounded like Coul-thard, as pronunced by Walker and Brundle.

[MLC]

At the beginning of the American broadcast of the 1995 Brazilian GP, Rubens filmed a short greeting for ESPN. He pronounced his name Barri-CHello.

Of course, he could be wrong.

[LB]

Its actually cool-tard but cool thard will do

[Nasty McBastard]

alan jones? are you reading this?

[Witt]

Alan Jones pronouncing "Mazzacane":

AJ: "Makassarn"

And he's said it like that for two years without ever being told that he says it wrong. Now for those of you who don't live in Australia, imagine this guy going through the names of the whole F1 grid!

Ross, no offence to America and all, but i do believe the English invented the English language, and it's you guys who pronounce everything wrong. Before you get offended, us Aussies aren't perfect either.

[Dudley]

Monza we call Montsa, no?

We do?

Definetly B-A-R

IT's Ralf, McLaren and Mat-za-can-eh too

[man from martinlaakso]

quote : Is it Ralf or Ralph Schumacher? I think it is Ralf.


It is Ralf, because it is a German name. We Finns would pronounce the names of the Shumacher brothers : Ralf ja Mihael Shumahher.


quote : Is it Coult-Hard, or Coul-Thard? I think it is Coul-Thard.


I haven't got the slightest idea, whether it is Coult-Hard or Coul-Thard. We would pronounce it Kulthaad anyway.


qoute :Is it Bar, or Be-Ei-Ar (spelled as initials)? I say it like bar
Is it Barritsello, or Barrikello ? I say it with the ts.


Probably the other r is not heard. So it probaby sounds like Barikello.


quote :Is it Potenza like Monza, or do you spell it with a z?


Probably it is, i suppose, we would pronounce it Potenza anyway.

[Bodzolca]

Barritselo or Barrikelo? Neither way. It's in fact pronounced as Barrishelo which I find it strange.

What's frustrating is that reporters cannot pronounce Michael right.

[Dr.Raj]

Originally posted by Bodzolca
What's frustrating is that reporters cannot pronounce Michael right.

You mean they don't pronounce it the way Germans do?
The Germans pronounce it, Mika-L Shumakhkhkhe...

[Spunout]

Just my two cents...

Barrichello = Bahi©hel(l)o
Schumacher = S©huumah(/c)he®
Räikkönen = Räikkönen - pronounced as written like most Finnish names

[man from martinlaakso]

quote : "Barritselo or Barrikelo? Neither way. It's in fact pronounced as Barrishelo which I find it strange.

What's frustrating is that reporters cannot pronounce Michael right."


I suppose, that correct pronouncing the first name of MS would sound like Miihael (c is not heard) and not Maiköl (like the British are pronouncong it).

Some have a hard time pronouncing the Finnish names like Haekkinen and Raeikkoenen. H should be heard, even if it the first letter (not like in Spanish). The double consonants are stronger than an individual one. So Haekkinen and not Haekinen. The scandinavian ä and ö characters might cause problems : ä is pronounced like a in the word cat, ö like i in the word dirty. After that Häkkinen and Räikkönen might sound more familiar.

[dooly]

What's frustrating is that reporters cannot pronounce Michael right.

Apart from the usual Western pronounciation, I've heard Mik-ail and Mi-ckell.

[vroom-vroom]

French reporters (TF1) seem to have a problem with the "ch" in Schumacher. Jacques Laffite and Pierre Van Vliet keep on pronouncing it "Shumarer". Very annoying on the part of Van Vliet who is Belgian and should know better considering he learned Dutch in school.

[Nomad]

Surely Jaxs isn't the correct pronounciation should it be zjak?

[cygnus]

On the Speedvision broadcast ... the american announcers say Olivier "Pan-is" and the british broadcasters say the (correct) pronunciation as "Pan-e".

[Pascal]

Originally posted by cygnus
On the Speedvision broadcast ... the american announcers say Olivier "Pan-is" and the british broadcasters say the (correct) pronunciation as "Pan-e".

Correct?

The S is not silent in Panis!

[desmo]

I always found it strange that the s isn't silent in Panis. Why is that? I know one pronounces the s at the end of "tennis" in French, but that isn't really a French word. Maybe Panis isn't altogether a Gallic name? And shouldn't some old farts in Paris protecting mother France from the dirty foreign words be warned? Vive la Franglais! Je voudrais un(e?) cheeseburger s'il vous plait.

[Spunout]

I always thought Panis would be spelled "panii"...

[Pascal]

Olivier Panis is originally from the South of France, and the local accent commands to pronounce the S. That's why his name is pronounced this way. Would he come from the Northern part of the country, the S would probably be silent.

[bira]

Originally posted by Mickey
Definately Barrikello, thank you Pascal

Definitely? Says who?

If you ask Barrichello himself, as well as those who work with him in Ferrari, they will tell you it's chello and not kello.

[Pascal]

Bira, the "definitely" comes from the Italian way of pronouncing "che" (i.e. Michele...). I suppose Rubens pronounces his name according to Portuguese phonemes, which make "che" sound like tsche. But like I said, I find the Italian pronunciation easier, and not completely false given the origin of that last name...

[JPMCrew]

Maybe an Italian will correct me, but I believe the reason "che" is pronounced sort of like "ke" is because the "ch" is at the beginning of the word.

In "Barichello", the "ch" is in the middle thus Bira would be correct.

[cygnus]

Ahh, I didn't know South France had a different way of pronouncing the 'is' ... very interesting. I suppose I'll just have to break my 'panii' habit .

[Spunout]

I remember Finnish TV commentator asking RB how his name should be pronounced and if my memory doesn´t fail me (which is possible) his answer was...

"Bahi©hel(l)o" - he also said "Bar®ikello" would be ok too.

Also if I´m not wrong here this is how Brazilian names usually are pronounced.

Can anyone confirm?

"Olivier Panis is originally from the South of France, and the local accent commands to pronounce the S. That's why his name is pronounced this way. Would he come from the Northern part of the country, the S would probably be silent"

Thanks Pascal!

[gray_cat]

Speaking of French names - how does one pronounce Alesi ? Is it Alis'i or Al'esi ? He is French, but the name may be Italian

[cygnus]

I think he's Frecnh-Cicillian ..

I say 'Alay-zi' *shrug*

[CONOSUR]

OK, no matter the origin of the name, Rubens' name is Brazilian, and, in Portugese, the double-R is pronounced like an H.

Bah-hee-kel-oh is the correct pronunciation.

I have a very good friend who just returned to Sao Paulo right after the Spanish GP, and he taught me quite a bit. Rubens name was one pronunciation he insisted I learn properly. The funny part to all this, is that he pronounces Enzo's name:

Feh-har-ee

[Mickey]

Originally posted by bira


Definitely? Says who?

If you ask Barrichello himself, as well as those who work with him in Ferrari, they will tell you it's chello and not kello.

Oh, I didn't mean that it's definately pronounced Barrikello. Just that, as Pascal guessed, everyone here in Italy pronounces it that way...

[Mickey]

Originally posted by JPMCrew
Maybe an Italian will correct me, but I believe the reason "che" is pronounced sort of like "ke" is because the "ch" is at the beginning of the word.

In "Barichello", the "ch" is in the middle thus Bira would be correct.

Actually "ch" is always pronounced "k" in Italian, no matter if it's at the beginning, middle, or end

[JPMCrew]

Originally posted by Mickey


Actually "ch" is always pronounced "k" in Italian, no matter if it's at the beginning, middle, or end

[Tech_Nut]

Slightly OT here - moving sideways over to 500cc GP Motorbikes. It was (is?) simply hilarious listening to one Eurosport commentator pronounce the surname of French rider Criville. The correct French pronunciation of his name goes like this: Cree-Vee-Eh. Sounded a bit pooffy to me.

But this commentator (American, I think, and my hero) simply refused to pronounce it properly: he always used the literal anglo-saxon pronunciation of Cry-Ville! For folk like me, who can speak a bit of frog, it was very funny.

But perhaps it still is? The commentary team is probably still the same. I don't follow bikes any more.

[Dr.Raj]

Originally posted by Tech_Nut
Slightly OT here - moving sideways over to 500cc GP Motorbikes. It was (is?) simply hilarious listening to one Eurosport commentator pronounce the surname of French rider Criville. The correct French pronunciation of his name goes like this: Cree-Vee-Eh. Sounded a bit pooffy to me.

But this commentator (American, I think, and my hero) simply refused to pronounce it properly: he always used the literal anglo-saxon pronunciation of Cry-Ville! For folk like me, who can speak a bit of frog, it was very funny.

But perhaps it still is? The commentary team is probably still the same. I don't follow bikes any more.

Cry-Ville:lol:
BTW, my commentators pronounce it right.