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#51 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 21 April 2019 - 17:54

So the frontpage article reporting first race in 2019 Super Formula..

 

Super Formula Suzuka: Ticktum P8 as Cassidy wins from 12th on grid

 

What is it about Ticktum that makes him so interesting? 

 

:cool:



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#52 noikeee

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Posted 21 April 2019 - 18:03

So the frontpage article reporting first race in 2019 Super Formula..

Super Formula Suzuka: Ticktum P8 as Cassidy wins from 12th on grid

What is it about Ticktum that makes him so interesting?

:cool:


Autosport is primarily focused on Formula 1 above all, and Ticktum is clearly being set up by Red Bull to be next in line to get promoted to F1. This means he's the main interest in the race from most readers. Also he's British and Autosport are British with a majority of British readers.

Don't rule out completely Juri Vips beating him to a Toro Rosso seat though, if he smashes F3.

#53 Anja

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Posted 21 April 2019 - 18:03

At this point, it's all about the controversy. 



#54 noikeee

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Posted 21 April 2019 - 18:06

At this point, it's all about the controversy.


Well, that too, the kid is a magnet for that.

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Posted 21 April 2019 - 18:09

So it was a loose wheel for Palou as well? I think his only visit to the pits was for the drive-through penalty, so the wheel had been on for at least 17 laps.

Tadasuke Makino's retirement was very [broken heart emoticon]

Yeah wasnt clear from footage but at least that's what Super Formula's official race report says, front left tyre came off.

https://superformula.../headline/15101

 

The report says right rear came off for Makino as well but I remember actually it sounded like puncture. I checked Nakajima Racing's official release but it doesnt specify the exact reason, only says "machine trouble". Maybe more detailed report and interviews will be published by media later.

Shame for both drivers, the team is in good form, Makino is good, and Palou seems real deal.



#56 AlexPrime

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Posted 21 April 2019 - 18:17

Very dramatic race... catched the highlights :eek:



#57 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 21 April 2019 - 18:28

Autosport is primarily focused on Formula 1 above all, and Ticktum is clearly being set up by Red Bull to be next in line to get promoted to F1. This means he's the main interest in the race from most readers. Also he's British and Autosport are British with a majority of British readers.

Don't rule out completely Juri Vips beating him to a Toro Rosso seat though, if he smashes F3.

 

I guess I have to say I understand that, but I really do not. Autosport to me is more than a British Magazine, to me it is 'The' Autoracing magazine, I may be wrong in that, I do however expect more and better than celebrating an 8th place finish as the headline for an arguably top premier junior series.

 

I have Vips as being in F1 next season in the guess the 2020 grid I think.

 

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#58 ANF

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Posted 21 April 2019 - 18:35

Yeah wasnt clear from footage but at least that's what Super Formula's official race report says, front left tyre came off.
https://superformula.../headline/15101
 
The report says right rear came off for Makino as well but I remember actually it sounded like puncture. I checked Nakajima Racing's official release but it doesnt specify the exact reason, only says "machine trouble". Maybe more detailed report and interviews will be published by media later.
Shame for both drivers, the team is in good form, Makino is good, and Palou seems real deal.

It's a good thing Palou noticed it before he reached the Esses at full speed...

I thought the tyre looked inflated on Makino's loose wheel, so it may well have been that the wheel just came off.

#59 noikeee

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Posted 21 April 2019 - 19:19

I guess I have to say I understand that, but I really do not. Autosport to me is more than a British Magazine, to me it is 'The' Autoracing magazine, I may be wrong in that, I do however expect more and better than celebrating an 8th place finish as the headline for an arguably top premier junior series.

I have Vips as being in F1 next season in the guess the 2020 grid I think.

:cool:


I didn't say it was a good headline...

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#60 messy

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Posted 21 April 2019 - 19:32

So the frontpage article reporting first race in 2019 Super Formula..
 
Super Formula Suzuka: Ticktum P8 as Cassidy wins from 12th on grid
 
What is it about Ticktum that makes him so interesting? 
 
:cool:


Because he'll likely be in F1 next year and let's face it, he's box office.

I like Ticktum, to be honest. He's a cocky little creature but I'm a sixth form teacher, I see kids like him every day. He's not a PR robot, he's got a personality, he's confident, he's gonna go places.

#61 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 21 April 2019 - 19:38

I didn't say it was a good headline...

 

No no... not saying you did, my argument is with Autosport and the seeming infatuation with any and everything Ticktum, you likely are spot on for reason.

 

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#62 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 21 April 2019 - 19:40

Because he'll likely be in F1 next year and let's face it, he's box office.

I like Ticktum, to be honest. He's a cocky little creature but I'm a sixth form teacher, I see kids like him every day. He's not a PR robot, he's got a personality, he's confident, he's gonna go places.

 

1) I doubt he will be in F1 next season.

2) I disagree that he is box office.

3) I disagree with more or less with everything in the full statement.

 

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Posted 21 April 2019 - 20:01

I also found it strange that Cassidy gained such an advantage by pitting before the safety car rather than putting under safety car. It’s usually the other way around in most series.


I’m not sure it is. Certainly in IndyCar and F1 leaders often talk of pitting earlier than planned in case a SC screws them

#64 Sterzo

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Posted 22 April 2019 - 13:22

...my argument is with Autosport and the seeming infatuation with any and everything Ticktum...

I'm British, watched Ticktum in his early races, rate him highly and... I agree with you entirely. What a bizarre headline! Reminiscent of the 1912 headline in an Aberdeen newspaper: "Titanic sinks: Aberdeen man lost."



#65 DanardiF1

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Posted 22 April 2019 - 13:59

Was good to have it streamed by the ex-Nismo TV guys on Youtube, although the race itself wasn't the best I think, too many safety car periods, and Cassidy kind of got lucky in pitting when he did.

 

Not sure what KCMG and Kobayashi were doing strategy-wise... even if you're looking to pit late in the race, at least give yourself a few laps to reap the benefits of the new tyres.



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Posted 22 April 2019 - 15:52

Having 3 or 4 Safety cars to pit, not even 13 laps from the end with some advantage, it seams Kobayashy made a hara kiri race, or had mental lock up.



#67 BRG

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Posted 22 April 2019 - 16:48

So Auer beats Ticktum, abnd Newey jr was beating both the Red Bull Juniors while he lasted.   As his dad was in the pits, it would be interesting to be a fly on the wall at Red Bull when Adrian tells Helmut how the lads performed.....  ;)

 

Perhaps Red Bull would do better to look at one of the fast Japanese drivers for their team, rather than these less than stellar juniors.  That might please Honda as well.



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Posted 22 April 2019 - 18:41

1) I doubt he will be in F1 next season.
2) I disagree that he is box office.
3) I disagree with more or less with everything in the full statement.

:cool:

You don't like him, I get it!!

If he had the Superlicence points, he'd be on the grid already instead of Albon.

I thought the Super Formula was really interesting this weekend. Of the new rookies, the big names were the disappointments, really. Palou....last time I remember him he was dominating at Abu Dhabi in the GP3 finale after doing nothing all season. Newey, dropped off my radar completely. Auer lost to the DTM, Makino didn't do much in F2 aside from that one race at Monza. They were all really good. Then on the other end, Markelov and Ticktum.

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Posted 22 April 2019 - 20:21

You don't like him, I get it!! - Rather neither like, nor dislike. I just do not see him being as good as Red Bull seemingly does, he appear to be one of those drivers who look like world beaters in lower classes, then fail to deliver when he advance. He is not a bad driver, no driver at the level he is at are bad drivers. But to me he does not warrant being the headline for the first Super Formula race of the season, placing 8th and reaping all of 1 point.

If he had the Superlicence points, he'd be on the grid already instead of Albon. - I know, and I do not get that, not I actually do not get Albon getting the seat either, or Kvyat for that matter.

I thought the Super Formula was really interesting this weekend. Of the new rookies, the big names were the disappointments, really. Palou....last time I remember him he was dominating at Abu Dhabi in the GP3 finale after doing nothing all season. Newey, dropped off my radar completely. Auer lost to the DTM, Makino didn't do much in F2 aside from that one race at Monza. They were all really good. Then on the other end, Markelov and Ticktum.

 

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#70 DanardiF1

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Posted 22 April 2019 - 20:50

You don't like him, I get it!!

If he had the Superlicence points, he'd be on the grid already instead of Albon.

I thought the Super Formula was really interesting this weekend. Of the new rookies, the big names were the disappointments, really. Palou....last time I remember him he was dominating at Abu Dhabi in the GP3 finale after doing nothing all season. Newey, dropped off my radar completely. Auer lost to the DTM, Makino didn't do much in F2 aside from that one race at Monza. They were all really good. Then on the other end, Markelov and Ticktum.

 

I think the tyres make a big difference. The Yokohamas don't need so much nursing as the F2 Pirellis do, and I think if you can work out how to look after the Pirellis (its a skill and I'm not admonishing drivers who have this skill), you can do better than you would otherwise on outright speed. I think then moving onto tyres like in Super Formula where they are of a higher overall quality and thus it is more down to how quick you are. I would think that there are some really quick drivers in F2 (De Vries is a prime example I think) who suffer for not having that Pirelli tyre management in their arsenal, and whilst having it is not a bad thing, if those drivers moved to a series like Super Formula, they'd look a lot better all of a sudden.



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Posted 30 April 2019 - 19:07

Jesus those cars are fast!

https://youtu.be/K2KZ5Xaurf0

2nd fastest racecar after F1 i would say!

Edited by thegamer23, 30 April 2019 - 19:09.


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Posted 30 April 2019 - 20:57

Jesus those cars are fast!

https://youtu.be/K2KZ5Xaurf0

2nd fastest racecar after F1 i would say!


I love these cars already. The sense of speed is palpable, particularyl because of the relatively low and vibrating onboard cam. The footage lacks the clinical feel that F1 onboards often have these days, it looks raw.

Fun fact: You can drive the SF19 cars in GT Sport as well, they were added a month ago, both the Honda and Toyota version. With boost and on almost new tyres, I managed a 1:36.5xx in Suzuka, that wasn’t on the softest tyre compound, though. Very impressed with how Polyphony managed to recreate the cars in the game, even more so after I followed the first race weekend.

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 21:16

What I like is how nimble they are on track. And not just purposely designed to constantly drive on the edge and slide around like Indycars (which is also fun to watch, don't get me wrong), but just by looking you can instantly tell that they're really light. 


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Posted 01 May 2019 - 19:52

Jesus those cars are fast!

https://youtu.be/K2KZ5Xaurf0

2nd fastest racecar after F1 i would say!

With the new 2019 turbo motors, they are actually a little slower than before - about a second slower at Suzuka than the old n/a engines.  And about 11 seconds off the F1 pace.  Not sure how that would compare to F2 or to Indycars though.   It is a good series and they are nice cars.



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Posted 18 May 2019 - 11:22

The weather this weekend has been quite dreadful, Fp2 had to be cancelled at a certain point.

 

Rd. 2 Quali for today, has been cancelled due to in climate weather conditions. Quali will be held tomorrow morning in conjunction with FP3.



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Posted 18 May 2019 - 17:20

First year I've added super formula to my watching list, and thoroughly enjoyed the Rd 1 highlights. It also tested my language knowledge watching it in Japanese. Was gutted for Kobayashi, no idea why they didn't pit straight away when that last safety car came out.

Looking forward to Rd 2 if the weather doesn't cancel it. They're brilliant cars!

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Posted 19 May 2019 - 10:35

quali results:

 

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race results:

 

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#78 ANF

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Posted 19 May 2019 - 17:09

I wonder if something broke on Ticktum's car or if he simply went off on his own.



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Posted 19 May 2019 - 17:46

he sais it was his mistake



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#80 HistoryFan

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Posted 19 May 2019 - 18:05

How good these Japanese drivers do compared to the European drivers...



#81 BRG

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Posted 19 May 2019 - 19:31

Well, that was a strange race.  To win from 19th on the grid is a bit special these days - good strategy but also a stellar drive by Sekiguchi.  

 

These local drivers are really strong and an overseas driver needs to get up early to beat them.  Master Ticktum's Super Licence points quest is looking a bit threadbare.  He seems to find it as hard to get points as the UK does at Eurovision.  His Red Bull colleague wasn't finding it very easy either  Maybe Red Bull should have a chat with thier Honda friends to see if they can nominate some Japanese drivers for the RB Juniors, as their current bunch don't seem to be up to the job.


Edited by BRG, 19 May 2019 - 19:32.