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#101 DeKnyff

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 11:37

Of those "high-profile international sports celebrities" I have different expectations. I expect them to behave like a human being and not as a PR talking robot like it is common these days. I love to see them as a normal human being. And drinking alcohol, is one thing that a "low-profile nominal Joe Average" does (or could do). Becoming drunk is a possible outcome from drinking alcohol. So if a "high-profile international sports celebrity" gets drunk and if captured on camera, I can relativate it to him or her being human. As an advice to you; grow a pair and drop your PC bullcrap. It will make your life a whole lot easier and more fun.

Wow, that was incredibly patronising.

 

And it's completely wrong, as well as patronising: "growing a pair" means, precisely, being an adult and being aware that you can't always behave like you wanted. If we always did what we wanted, no matter the rules (written or not), the world but be an even more unbearable place to live. That's why human beings have invented things like correction, politeness and respect to the rules.

 

Call me "PC crap" if you want. I'm proud of it. Better that than the childish idea that getting drunk at a public event is cool.


Edited by DeKnyff, 12 December 2018 - 12:56.


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#102 sopa

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 12:31

If you or I had behaved like that at an official function where we were representing our employer, we wouldn't have an employer anymore the next day. 

 

You are right. That's the reality for most mere mortals. But some, i.e Kimi, have made "getting drunk" a bit of brand of themselves, so they get away with it. But only truly successful and famous ones can afford it.



#103 Beri

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 13:02

Wow, that was incredibly patronising.
 
And it's completely wrong, as well as patronising: "growing a pair" means, precisely, being an adult and being aware that you can't always behave like you wanted. If we always did what we wanted, no matter the rules (written or not), the world but be an even more unbearable place to live. That why human beings have invented things like correction, politeness and respect to the rules.
 
Call me "PC crap" if you want. I'm proud of it. Better that than the childish idea that getting drunk at a public event is cool.


Patronising is such a PC word as well. It was an advice to grow a pair. But society in general usually doesnt respond well to being corrected, having to obey the rules or other religions. So I personally cant see the benefits from having to play life by the rules, to be nice all the time or even having to apologize for something I do believe in. I do believe some of you in general need to grow a pair, to not take life so seriously and just live your life the way you want it to. Not because the rules say so. Like Kimi does.

Edited by Beri, 12 December 2018 - 13:11.


#104 Marklar

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 13:07

I dont mind what Kimi did, in fact it made this whole gala better, and comparing this to how it's dealt with in a normal job is always flawed anyways, but I'm pretty sure that most other drivers wouldnt have been celebrated for this, in fact I think some would have been slated. But that's nothing new with Kimi, he has a special status in that sense  :p



#105 DeKnyff

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 14:55

Patronising is such a PC word as well. It was an advice to grow a pair. But society in general usually doesnt respond well to being corrected, having to obey the rules or other religions. So I personally cant see the benefits from having to play life by the rules, to be nice all the time or even having to apologize for something I do believe in. I do believe some of you in general need to grow a pair, to not take life so seriously and just live your life the way you want it to. Not because the rules say so. Like Kimi does.

You are assuming that being wild is the only way to enjoy life. Great if you think so, but many other people (like myself) enjoy life otherwise. In general, "grown-up people" (in my case, I'm 57!) tend to belong to the second group.

 

One question: I think it's safe to assume that neither Michael Schumacher, nor Alain Prost, nor Ayrton Senna (universally acknowledged as the best drivers in the last 40 years) would have never appeared drunk at a public event. Does it make them "non grown-ups"?



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Posted 12 December 2018 - 15:23

You are assuming that being wild is the only way to enjoy life. Great if you think so, but many other people (like myself) enjoy life otherwise. In general, "grown-up people" (in my case, I'm 57!) tend to belong to the second group.

 

One question: I think it's safe to assume that neither Michael Schumacher, nor Alain Prost, nor Ayrton Senna (universally acknowledged as the best drivers in the last 40 years) would have never appeared drunk at a public event. Does it make them "non grown-ups"?

 

It probably makes them what they are. If they want to get drunk in public, good for them. If they don't, good for them as well.
And neither me or you have the right to criticize any of them.



#107 DeKnyff

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 15:50

It probably makes them what they are. If they want to get drunk in public, good for them. If they don't, good for them as well.
And neither me or you have the right to criticize any of them.

I'm surprised to read that. Of course I have the full and absolute right to criticize the behaviour of an international celebrity at a public and broadcasted event. And I criticize it. Furthermore, I criticize all sort of people being drunk at public events. Completely unprofessional, IMO.



#108 Jovanotti

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 16:07

Is this discussion really still going on !? I mean I found it funny but also quite a non-event. Everyone's got the right to be offended I guess.

#109 AustinF1

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 16:33

I dont mind what Kimi did, in fact it made this whole gala better, and comparing this to how it's dealt with in a normal job is always flawed anyways, but I'm pretty sure that most other drivers wouldnt have been celebrated for this, in fact I think some would have been slated. But that's nothing new with Kimi, he has a special status in that sense  :p

Is the video above what everyone's talking about ... or was there more?



#110 DeKnyff

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 16:34

Is this discussion really still going on !? I mean I found it funny but also quite a non-event. Everyone's got the right to be offended I guess.

I don't think anyone is "offended" here, except, ironically, the ones who seem to get offended by what they call "PC crap".

 

I'm certainly not "offended" by Kimi's attitude, but I don't think coming drunk to a public event where you are one of the stars is a good idea. Feel free to disagree.



#111 statman

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Posted Yesterday, 09:15

Sorry, but is this really meant to make it OK?  If you or I had behaved like that at an official function where we were representing our employer, we wouldn't have an employer anymore the next day.  People defending Kimi for behaving like a teenage moron have very skewed judgement. 

 

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#112 Jovanotti

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Posted Yesterday, 22:05

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Wtf was that :lol:?

#113 P123

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Posted Yesterday, 23:51

Wtf was that :lol:?


I think it's a moustache.

#114 noikeee

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Posted Yesterday, 23:53

Wtf was that :lol:?

It's just a strange mustache.

I wonder if Kimi did this "show" as a final #2 job for Vettel, so that people don't talk as much about his facial hair, which would've been the prime story from this non event.

Edit: goddammit P123.

Edited by noikeee, Yesterday, 23:54.