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Farewell to Fernando Alonso - Abu Dhabi 2018


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#1 Dino2000

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 17:03

It's been 17 years since Fernando first ever drove a Formula 1 car, and this next weekend will be probably the last.

 

Regarded by many as one of the greatest ever, his indomitable spirit have left plenty of followers and plenty of detractors as well. Question marks about his character will be left forever, in the form of the "crashgate" or his fall with Ron Dennis during that 2007 season. But also the Formula 1 history would not be the same without his brave fight against the legendary Michael Schumacher, the fierce 2007 season against Hamilton and his own team, or his performance at Hungary 2006 or Valencia 2012.

 

Once this season closes, this fierce competitor would be lost forever for the Formula 1, and is really sad that his last years have been spent in uncompetitive machinery. One only would had wished seen him in a very last season against Lewis in the Mercedes or against Sebastian in the Ferrari, but life is what it is and not what it would have been.

 

Everytime a great driver quits Formula 1 is a sad day in my life. I remeber when Niki, Prost, Piquet, Mansell all quitted… Formula 1 remained as a poorer place to be. This time is Fernando the one who goes, one I would never wished to quit. I really wish him all the best in his new endeavors.

 

I encourage you all to leave some coments here as our personal reflection about what Fernando has meant for this beautiful sport, his race you will most remember or just say to him goodbye.

 

Thank you Fernando for all the memories of great racing.

 

Regards,

 

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#2 rootten

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 17:13

Best driver



#3 as65p

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 17:15

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One only would had wished seen him in a very last season against Lewis in the Mercedes or against Sebastian in the Ferrari, but life is what it is and not what it would have been.
 

 

Guess so. It was fun supporting him... and more "interesting" than I imagined in 2006. :D

 

Thank you Fernando for all the memories of great racing.

 

This! :up:

 

Imola 2005, Hungary 2006, Nürburgring 2007, and of course 2012... I hope he keeps pushing the same way in whatever he drives in years to come.



#4 MastaKink

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 17:15

Been great watching him race in F1, he's easily one of the best I've seen and it'll be great watching him in his pursuit of other series and races. I think we may well see him in F1 again at some point but if not its been a great career and his skills will be missed but the show always goes on.

 

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#5 Vielleicht

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 17:17

It will mark the end of an era for me.

 

Best of luck for his future endeavors. I shall be watching.



#6 noriaki

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 17:18

My belief is that Fernando is every bit as extraordinary a racing driver as his biggest fanboys claim. But nearly every bit as complicated, and at worst distruptive, force within his teams as his detractors say.

A double-edge, which makes him the most intriguing character to have graced the F1 paddocks this millennium.

Shame that he is leaving F1 but I am only glad we, as motorsport followers should still continue to see his skill in various cockpits for a fair few years more.

#7 MortenF1

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 17:41

It’s a huge, huge shame that he’s about to leave and that his last few years were in sh*t machinery.
If I had been told after 2006 that this was his last title in F1, I wouldn’t have believed it.
What I wont miss is his over the top grumpy comments to his engineer on the radio. What I will miss is so much more. Witty comments, great race craft, and how he has carried McLaren on his own shoulders in this second spell.
With him gone, and Verstappen still having lots to learn in all aspects but speed, there will be an even bigger gap between Hamilton and the rest.

I hope he comes back for one succesful dash ala Prost ‘93.

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 17:46

Inevitable, isn't it?

 

Not his retirement, that's long past it's sell-buy.  :yawnface:

 

That folk would choose to don their rose-coloureds and develop angst for the demise of this toxic character is what I meant.  :|  :|

 

Bye Fred. Don't let the door etc, etc..... :rolleyes:



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Posted 20 November 2018 - 17:49

As his F1 career draws to a close, I reflect on how he was sometimes seen by the rest of the world when he first appeared, more or less as a shy child prodigy, deferring to a forceful and eccentric mentor. (In this he was pretty similar to how Lewis was seen) and, as with Hamilton,  we got to see a lot of thosee layers of shyness and awkwardness burned off under the stress of racing, revealing a rather extraordinary and contradictory personality. In this way he does remind me of Senna too, in that for just about any adjective you could dream up, someone could throw back a strong counter example. Often Imperious and haughty yet humble and down to earth. Utterly ruthless, yet at times showing a kind heart.  And like Senna, often mired in controversy and been accused of some serious wrongdoing whiilst maintaining the sense of a strong moral code. (A better sense of humour than Ayrton came across with, though.) The fiercely private, defensive to the point of spikiness person who set up a twitter account against Ferrari's wishes because he wanted the fans to know him better. The 'political' driver that nonetheless seemed to repeatedly storm out of teams before too late realising the door and car keys were still on the kitchen table. And of course a driver so talented that people say he underachieved 'only' wining two world championships. The ambiguity fuels the discussion and the arguments.

 

In a way. I don't think he's ever got over 2007. If nothing else, it seems to have set in stone his relationship to the British press in which he comes across often as guarded, almost adversarial yet refusing to show even that, keen to point out how what we know of him comes as much as anything else from the 'Alonso' persona which has been constructed about him, meaning, so he reckons, we're never seeing the real him, an idea which seems to irritate him and yet also comfort/reassure. So when I write about him, it's tapping into that same frame of reference, like it's a character from a film, leaving the real Fernando to his own space. I like to think it's what he'd want.

 

The sport will be far, far duller without him. I know for many people their abiding memory is the heartbreak after Brazil 2012, but I think I will remember a few other images strongly. Breaking down in tears briefly after winning in Valencia after being devastated the day before at the poor qualifying spot, reflecting on how many fans had shown up to see him. And later that season, tough plainly utterly exhausted, the fierce will as he urged his team on from the podium at Abu Dhabi - all for nothing as it turned out but you really couldn't have asked for more determination in not leaving anything on the table:

 

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And this one, taken  (I think) during the Canadian GP weekend. The grim, tight lipped grimace of a man who suspects he's going to keep on finding that Fate has quietly slipped some lead into the opponents boxing gloves (to borrow Wodehouse's lovely phrase)..  In many ways, it sums up the issues of his whole career. I think in a way perhaps both drivers never quite got over it all.

 

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Of course, in a way these last couple of seasons have been odd and in some ways as if Alonso was already gone in a way. (Not finished as far as McLaren are concerned of course. If ever they feel hard done by due to the events of 2007, I would argue dragging them up the constructors championship to positions they have no business being has a distinct sense of debts paid.) Nonetheless, overlooked in the general race chaos unless causing brief commotion by shouting about a driver and/or saying something striking over the radioI, it has seemed at times as if F1 has been haunted by a talented poltergeist. He can do better and I hope he has fun doing whatever it is he chooses to do next.



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Posted 20 November 2018 - 18:00

The end of an era, I still remember him driving for Minardi and really impressing everyone.  I might be a little biased here but it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth to see him leave with only two titles whilst Lewis has five and Seb has four.  Fernando certainly deserves more than two but such is life.

 

I have very mixed feelings, on one hand it's very sad to see him go but on the other hand it's been a torture watching him waste the last few years driving that utter shitbox.

 

In a perfect world I would have loved to see Toto sign him alongside Lewis and no matter who came out the top at the end of the season it would certainly be very very entertaining.

 

I would love to see him come back one day and in a competitive seat but I think that's probably unlikely so I wish him the absolute best in whatever he does next.  I will miss him and I'm sure lots of others will too.



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Posted 20 November 2018 - 18:07

I'll miss watching him. He's probably the first bona fide legend for whom I'll be able to remember the first and last GP.

I think the performances he was producing from 2010-2013 are as good as I've seen from anybody else. His victory in Valencia in 2012 among the best I've ever watched live, and IMO the best this decade.

In some ways I feel it's a travesty that he's leaving the sport with 'only' two world championships. But it's a fair reflection of his career. Alonso's weaknesses were all off-track, but they were significant. Too spiky, too difficult to work with. If he'd been a calmer guy he would have won a hatful of titles; but then, if he'd been a calmer guy he might not have been Fernando Alonso.

I really hope he goes on to win the Indy 500. Becoming the second man to win the Triple Crown would be a fitting epitaph to a fantastic career, and cement his place in history as one of the biggest talents ever to sit in a racing car.

 

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 18:14

Should have had more than two titles of course. If only he made the right choices during his career and wasn’t so hard headed. He could have stayed at McLaren after 2007, he could have stayed at Ferrari after 2014.

Nevertheless, a great driver during this era. Compared to Hamilton I’d say he’s slightly behind him, but way ahead of the likes of Vettel.

#13 Dino2000

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 18:30

As his F1 career draws to a close, I reflect on how he was sometimes seen by the rest of the world...

 
Wonderful post SophieB, thank you very much for sharing your passion with all us.

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 18:40

Best driver

 

One of the worst career decision makers though.  He stayed a couple of years too long for as competitive as McLaren was or lack thereof. He'll do well in whatever he decides to drive from here on out.  If he's in a series where the car isn't the primary focus he'll be more able to show his talent even at the ripe old age of 40. 



#15 e34

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 18:52

As his F1 career draws to a close, I reflect on how he was sometimes seen by the rest of the world ...

 
 
If only you had been his PR manager for the English-speaking world...

#16 djparky

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 19:19

Alonso is one of the two reasons why I watch F1 nowadays, I've been a fan since he first got into a Renault, and he ended the mind numbing tedium of the Schumacher- Ferrari era as well

#17 boillot

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 19:36

A brilliant, brilliant driver cheated from at least 2 more titles. The 2012 performance ranks with Prost's 1986 as the best season by a F1 driver in a very long time.
Somehow always seemed to find himself in the wrong place after 2006.

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 19:46

One of the best.

As a Ferrari fan, I'm really sorry that he didn't win a title with us, he deserved at least one.



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Posted 20 November 2018 - 20:22

F1's loss, motorsport's gain.

 

(other motorsports apart from F1, I mean) 



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#20 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 20:25

Legend.

The haters will quickly realise that his type of personality is exactly what F1 needs.

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 20:34

I was never a fan early on. Stuff like ignoring yellow flags in Brazil 2003 and brake testing Robert Doornbos in Hungary 2006 just rubbed me the wrong way, and truthfully I never got over his petulance.

But I have warmed to him in recent years. He’s become more chilled out and his passion for the sport shows more than ever. I was definitely behind his Indy attempt in 2017 and look forward to seeing him there again. A great racer overall and he’s certainly left his mark on formula one.

#22 Yamamoto

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 20:46

Amongst a myriad of standout drives, I will remember Imola 2005 and Hungary 2014. Put him in a corner and watch him fight. One of the best we'll ever see.



#23 Nonesuch

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 20:54

Great driver, easily one of the best in F1 today. The fact that he, not others, emerged as Vettel's nemesis during the latter's Red Bull years speaks volumes.

 

Still, his inability to win at both Ferrari and McLaren is a problem in ranking him right up there among the sport's greatest.

 

But anyway - F1 is now done - time for us viewers to enjoy his unquestionably immense talents in series where March doesn't determine the rest of the year.

 

You could do worse than race Le Mans and Indy in the same year. :cool: :up:

 


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Posted 20 November 2018 - 21:16

Back in 2006 when Fernando was picking up his second WDC I don't think any of us watching could/would have imagined it would be his last in F1. Quite incredible really that over the next 12 seasons although he came extremely close on three occasions with McLaren and Ferrari, he wasn't able to add to his previous two championships with Renault. Could quite easily have been a four or five time world champion with three different teams.

 

I was never a fan of Schumacher (even though I had huge respect for his talent) but found myself willing him on in his final two seasons at Ferrari when the young pretender that was Alonso was getting the better of the old master. Similiar story with Alonso for me personally in the sense that I warmed up to him more and more the longer his career went on.

 

Just as disappointing as his lack of more championships post 2006 for me is the fact that we never really saw another season where he was able to go head to head with Hamilton again after 2007. I truely believed after that memorable season between the pair that we'd see some titantic championship battles between the both of them at some stage but alas, it never really happened with the Red Bull and Mercedes eras that followed. After Rosberg left Merc there was a perfect opportunity to see Hamilton vs Alonso round two but I don't think anyone can really blame Toto for not entertaining that idea after the toxic environment he had to deal with between Lewis and Nico in previous seasons.

 

Incredibly unlucky in 2010 not to take a deserved title but his team were to blame on that occasion and how close he came in 2012 with the car he had was something to behold. That said, he has to shoulder the blame for some poor moves at the wrong times but sometimes that's just the way things work out in F1, no matter how good a driver you are.

 

Absolutely one of the all time greats and an even better driver than his two time world champion status suggests. Crying shame he's been pootling around at the back for the final part of his F1 career but even so he's going to be a big loss for the sport.



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Posted 20 November 2018 - 21:30

Who'd have thought a driver racing for Ferrari and then McLaren would have ended up having five wasted years in those cars, which is pretty much what 2014 to 2018 have been. A shame that neither of those two teams could get him near the podium in that time. He's been understandably a fairly frustrated figure the past couple of years. At least now he has the chance to go on and be famous for winning (Indy 500 please) again rather than relaxing on a deck chair trackside. :)

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 21:32

Warning: elaborate post with a high degree of fanboyism and sentimentalism! I've been lurking around this forum for years now, I've had an account for a while without posting, but I guess there's no better moment to make my first post than right now. I'll reflect chronologically on his career, but also combine it with my story of growing up (with F1) and make it very personal instead of analytical (and it'll be a longer post :yawnface: ).

The missing years (2001-2008)
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I'm 23 - almost 24 - years old, so for me, Fernando Alonso made his debut in F1 when I was six years old. I've got some vague memories of Häkkinen battling with Schumacher, but aside of that, Alonso has always been there. And even though childhood me had better things to do than watch "some cars race around a track", Alonso was one of the most important sporting figures for my family from the get-go. This meant that I only vaguely saw stuff from 'the good years' and had to rewatch all those great moments later: Hungary 2003, winning the championship twice, battling with Schumacher at Imola 2005, the Monaco 2006 qualifying controversy... the McLaren heartbreak... (The 2001 Minardi and 2003 Renault got slightly damaged in the making of this picture... Currently undergoing repairs :cat: )

 

Getting into F1, the Ferrari years & McLaren switch (2009-2015)

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It must have been around 2008 when I got interested in F1 and 2010 when I got really passionate about it. Winning a debut race for Ferrari is an amazing feat. In a sense the entire year was quite amazing. Five drivers in contention, all of them with their own stronger and weaker races (think of Silverstone 2010 or Monaco qualifying, for instance). Korea 2010 is definitely a stand-out memory for me in that sense and it made me so confident "it was going to happen". Along came Abu Dhabi. A 15 points lead over Webber. What could go wrong? We all know the answer to that now and it was the first of three major F1 heartbreaks for me as a fan. 2011 was more like a "gap year" with an extremely dominant Red Bull, but for me, Alonso showed his skills in that year anyway, with amazing starts (Spain 2011) and even a victory at Silverstone. There's no season that was as intense for me as 2012. Against all my expectations, he won in Malaysia and he led the championship with quite a margin. After qualifying 11th in Valencia, I must say I gave up all hope for the race, only to be massively surprised the next day. It was a special day, an emotional one, an unforgettable one. It was an inherited win, but just as much deserved thanks to skills. Belgium and Japan 2012 were equally unforgettable in another way, and perhaps those races and the tightening championship were what got me into all the little details in F1 and watching every practice session: who has the advantage in FP2's long runs? What about qualy sims? Etc. Along came Brazil 2012. Undoubtedly the best race I've seen in my life but I'll never want to see it again - it was an emotional rollercoaster and just the image of Fernando's thousand-yard stare still hurts. I guess I was staring similarly at my TV. Perhaps at this point the Alonso-Ferrari relationship was doomed. If even after such a stellar season it was impossible to win, would it be possible at all? The early races in 2013 led to the idea that it might be possible after all, but that hope vanished quickly and the start of the V6-era would prove to be even worse. Hungary was another classic, and he got close to victory, but as a fan, thinking back of 2012 and looking at the performances in 2014 left me very disappointed. A switch to McLaren made me quite happy, initially...

The McLaren years and 'motorsports life' beyond F1 (2015-)
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Disaster struck quickly and quite soon even the results in the 2014 Ferrari seemed incredible. Here, we saw the birth of Fernando as a meme / radio king, and even though sometimes the messages hitting the airwaves weren't too tactful ("GP2 Engine"), I think they are a sign of dedication, will to succeed and extract the maximum. The theme of these years for me were, without a doubt, starting hopeful and losing that hope gradually during the season, however, Alonso always kept pushing (even literally: Hungary 2015). At some point, I started looking for the 'smaller victories', like this year's 7th place in Singapore. I felt like that might be his final 'small victory' in F1 and thoroughly enjoyed it. I think that in these years, we've seen an Alonso willing to go to great lengths for every point he could get. One thing Fernando has shown to me in these years, perhaps to some parts the F1 watching world too, is that motorsports is bigger than F1. His Indy 500 attempt was an absolute highlight, and so was this year's victory at Le Mans. To me, Fernando is a great introduction to other forms of Motorsports. Ever since the 2017 Indy 500, I've been following IndyCar, with or without Fernando, and the same goes for the WEC, so now I'm a fan of three motorsports. Who knows where he'll turn up in 2019, but after all these years and growing up 'with Alonso', I'll keep on following him and enjoying those motorsports.

 

My way of thanking Fernando
Aside of this (perhaps too elaborate) post, you can see all home-made paper Alonso cars in the pictures and I've also been quite lucky to have been interviewed by the Dutch F1 magazine for a (large) article as a goodbye to Fernando. Now it's on to race 312, and I'm sure I won't be ready for it, but an 'adiós' for now, will be an 'hola' in other motorsports, and hopefully another 'hola' in an F1 return soon. Who knows, an Indy 500 win in a McLaren-Honda and a successful comeback with Ferrari in 2020? (Highly unlikely - I know - but dreaming never hurts and those would be quite good 'feel-good stories' on many levels). For me, following Alonso in F1 has been a road from barely paying attention to the sport to being extremely passionate about it, and even following three motorsports now. #GraciasFernando, an all-time F1 legend up there with the best.
 


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#27 Dino2000

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Posted 20 November 2018 - 23:38

Warning: elaborate post with a high degree of fanboyism and sentimentalism!...

 
My friend, for a first post yours should be considered the gold standard! Thank you very much for posting and I hope to find your post more often from now on. :clap:

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 01:09

I think I've been looking at your paper cars for fifteen minutes now. Amazing!

#29 MikeV1987

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 01:37

Great driver but I never was a fan of his. The stats may not say it, especially compared to the inflated stats of Hamilton and Vettel but he is a legend in his own right, and I will miss having him around.

Edited by MikeV1987, 21 November 2018 - 01:48.


#30 OvDrone

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 01:40

My favorite Alonso win was Valencia back in 2012. I was very moved. Always loved him.

 

I still have goosebumps thinking back to Hungaroring 2001. I remember being in the grandstands on the backstraight between S2 and S3 when all the circuit fell eerily quiet in the early part of qualy. Everyone just stopped and stare in awe at a kid ripping apart the circuit in a feral black Minardi. The pole-sitter ( one Michael Schumacher that had just one more day until becoming a 4x WDC ) didn't get the roar and standing ovation that kid got that day. He qualified 18th. I noticed some fans talking to each other dumbstruck beside me:

 

'Holy s**t, who was that?'

 

'Let me see... some kid named Fernando... Alonso. Huh, don't know'

 

'Well, he'll be a champion soon'.

 

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He was amazing and still is. Waiting to cheer him on in his continued quest for Motorsport glory.



#31 AustinF1

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 04:14

Fernando Alonso's transcendent talents and his feats in 2005 & 2006 were what finally and fully cemented my addiction to F1. His departure, while possibly temporary, will ease that addiction at minimum a wee bit. I'm sure I'll continue to intensely follow F1 at least for a little while, but it's not ever going to be quite the same for me without the tenacious #14 on the grid, giving 'em hell.



#32 Quickshifter

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 04:34

People talk about tenacity, grit and motivation when it comes to racing drivers and what Alonso has shown in the last four years in an uncompetive package, driving the wheels off, every single time he hopped in to the car, elevates him to another level. I don't think any other double champion who would be as focused, motivated, consistent and tenacious in a car which struggled to get in to points in the last four years. There will always be only one Alonso. He had his moments where he literally got his engineer shivering in his seat but that's what Alonso is, always trying to extract the maximum even in an uncompetitive car.

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#33 Henri Greuter

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 07:58

I was a kind of fan of him till early 2003.
What he did in the Minardi in '01, nothing but praise from me.

I forgot the race in which it happened but it was in early 2003, when he was battling for position with David Coulthard and in one of the last corners before the finish he then gave David a brake test that made him overshoot.

That was the moment I begon to wonder if this hardworking young charger was on its way to become like Senna: "Everything permitted to avoid defeat."
It didn't take that long anymore before I lost my sympathy for him and from then on it went from bad to worse with his share in McLaren's 2007 disaster and Crashgate the next year sealed it for me. There was another reason I had to reduce supporting my up till then favourite team (Ferrari) a bit before 2010 already. But once Alonso joined them, I was done and finished with Ferrari, the more while I had an alternative to go to for the time being.

Having said that, I rate him as a hell of a driver behind the wheel, one of the best 10 F1 drivers I've seen in my life. But there was too much surrounding him and things he did and was part of that annoyed me and which I can't ignore. Therefore, I couldn't bring it up anymore to appreciate him for quite some time already.

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 08:03

With Alonso retiring, the Schumacher era is definitely going to the end... Kimi will be the last one from the old guard.

 

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#35 kosmos

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 08:04

He is going to be one of those special drivers that it's going to be judged by his driving and not his titles or stats, he really is one of a kind, specially coming from a country like Spain with very little F1 tradition and support for F1 drivers or anything motorsports related that is not Moto GP.  I hope he wins the triple crown, a good substitute for that elusive third title in F1.

 

The Ferrari/Alonso combo was perfect, so many epic moments, so many twists and turns, such a shame Ferrari was not in a good shape for almost the majority of his stint there and RB was too dominant in that era. In the light of what Vettel is doing in Ferrari, Fernando's years will be remembered fondly by the tifosi in many years to come.

 

A legend of F1, the first and only Spanish champion.



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Posted 21 November 2018 - 08:15

My memory could not surpass any of the message written in here.

All wonderful and I be thankful to all of you who could write so well about personal feelings.

 

I thank you Alonso for all your passion sometime heart bracingly ruthless will to win. 

I still possess (somewhere) a series of three photo which Alonso being pulled out of his Formula 1 Race Car after exhausted himself by racing and have not left a single force to bring himself out of the car he was driving. It appeared as if Alosno lost some ten kilo by driving. I thought, wow, how on earth this is possible to give so much for driving. 

 

Ever since I have read Gazza writing this same kid some of you are mentioning was a usual shay kid kicking football at the back of the paddock and the sooner he be in a Formula 1 car he was instantly the lap time breaker, I could not look anywhere else.

 

 

Fernando Alonso, Next race is not the farewell, but it just the beginning of a new voyage to meet your elsewhere...

 

(sorry for my poor writing...)



#37 Huffer

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 08:29

Good riddance to a vastly overrated, team morale destroying driver. In truth, Alonso should have been kicked out of the sport in 2007 for his active part in the spy-gate affair. I won't miss him. 


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#38 SophieB

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 08:45

 

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#39 Owen

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 09:08

Tribute I did for this moment. #GraciasFernando

 

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#40 jcbc3

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 09:52

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I agree there are some wondeful posts in this thread. However, for everyones sake, don't quote the whole post you're praising.

If someone has missed the post you're praising, there will still be a small arrow in the top right corner that can lead others back to it.

For this reason, I have edited a couple of posts.

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#41 jcbc3

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 10:01

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Alonso is/was quite an enigmatic person. His talent and not inconsiderable achievements are undeniable. His bad moments also. As some here, I can't forgive his antics at McLaren in 2007. I also (probably for the same reason), can't feel pity for his circumstances in the latter year of his career with uncompetitive machinery. Chickens coming home to roost for me.

I also find his statement about leaving F1 because it's tilted and unfair as the height of hypocrisy when he is running away in Toyota's WEC efforts. Where is his statements of outrage there?

In regard to his Indy efforts, I found them interesting and I would never begrudge him a win and a triple crown. But as long as SATO!!!!!!!!!!!!11!! is in the Indy 500 he'll get my support. :-)

So in conclusion: Goodbye Fred. You enriched the experience of watching F1 immensely.

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#42 Beri

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 10:04

Alonso before 2012 is a different Alonso to the one after. I liked the pre 2012 version. I dislike the current one.

#43 bogi

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 10:30

Thank you Fernando, one of the greatest.



#44 Gareth

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 10:33

Some superb posts in here - fantastic reads, thanks :up:

 

One of the best I've seen. An incredible talent. And a complex character, with a sense of drive and entitlement that IMO both made him the incredible competitor that he is, and perhaps contributed to the lingering sense that his career perhaps hadn't achieved what it could have.

 

But what a great line, SophieB: "a driver so talented that people say he underachieved 'only' wining two world championships". So well put.

 

F1 will has been richer with him, and will be poorer without him. A fantastic and fascinating career that I feel lucky to have been able to enjoy watching.



#45 SenorSjon

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 10:35

At the end of 2006, I believed he would topple Schumachers records. He somehow imploded after 2007 and made all the wrong career choices. 



#46 Baddoer

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 10:38

He got his fair amount of fame,recently mostly because of his team radio. Joking aside, Alonso does not enjoy being at the back of the grid, we do not enjoy watching Alonso back of the grid too. But there is good reason why nobody else wants him, end of story.



#47 McLaren1702

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 11:33

 
My friend, for a first post yours should be considered the gold standard! Thank you very much for posting and I hope to find your post more often from now on. :clap:

 

 

I think I've been looking at your paper cars for fifteen minutes now. Amazing!

Thanks to both of you, much appreciated! Glad to read you enjoy them so much :)

 

"I still have goosebumps thinking back to Hungaroring 2001. I remember being in the grandstands on the backstraight..."

 

You know, I truly envy you and everyone else who got to see these early seasons live (and even being at the track)! Those must be awesome memories. So many great posts in this topic, we're all in for a special one this Sunday.



#48 Atreiu

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 11:35

Two titles are nothing to be ashamed of, but all the rest? Oh my, poor decisions and horribly unfulfilled talent. Just because you can be great doesn’t mean you actually are.

Maybe he’s in the top 20.

#49 SophieB

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 11:36

Thanks to both of you, much appreciated! Glad to read you enjoy them so much :)

 

 

You know, I truly envy you and everyone else who got to see these early seasons live (and even being at the track)! Those must be awesome memories. So many great posts in this topic, we're all in for a special one this Sunday.

 

Your paper cars are awesome. I was reading the post thinking ''nice models'  and was kind of blown away to learn they are paper. I hope the man himself gets to see your amazing tribute.



#50 McLaren1702

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 11:43

Your paper cars are awesome. I was reading the post thinking ''nice models'  and was kind of blown away to learn they are paper. I hope the man himself gets to see your amazing tribute.

Thanks! That would be a dream come true...