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[statman]

Season might be over, but the racing continues (for 2 days). And you get a glimpse of new drivers and those who transferred to new teams!

 

What:

Post season testing at Abu Dhabi.

 

When:

Tuesday 27 November and Wednesday 28 November.

 

Why:

Teams will test Pirelli’s new range of tyres for the 2019 F1 season. It comes at a sensitive time as drivers and teams have questioned whether the sport did the right thing by asking Pirelli to produce tyres which degraded more quickly. This was done through the ‘target letter’ given to Pirelli which sets down the desired tyre performance characteristics.

 

Who:

Mercedes: Bottas - Hamilton

Ferrari: Leclerc - Vettel

Red Bull: Verstappen - Gasly

Renault: Hulkenberg - Markelov

Haas: Deletraz - Fittipaldi

Racing Point: Perez - Stroll

Sauber: Raikkonen - Giovinazzi

McLaren: Sainz - Norris

Toro Rosso: Kvyat - Gelael

Williams: Kubica - Russell

 

Warning:

As with every test, people try to claim a certain driver is 'faster' by looking at the leaderboard. While we all know this is nonsense, it will probably still be mentioned...

Edited by statman, 26 November 2018 - 13:00.

[w1Y]

i think both lewis and bottas are for merc

[kumo7]

Here feeling that 2019 will be a tough interesting season, lots of failures both technically skill-wise, lots of dramas.

Guessing that Racing Point will be getting lots of attention with the new driver.

Cannot imagine Perez being evenly matched, but we will see.

 

Personally I look forward to feel a bit of team intern competitions at Ferrari, RP, Williams in the order that I named.

 

 

What will Red Bull do in terms of PU? Honda will be way too early, but the season is already over... guess go testing with Renault, but should it be relevant?

Edited by kumo7, 26 November 2018 - 08:37.

[jonpollak]

You forgot today’s event


Jp

[Ivanhoe]

Max is driving on Tuesday for Red Bull

[jimjimjeroo]

The McLaren looks fast

[pRy]

So Mercedes ran this weekend with an set of sensors on the car to then allow it to use those sensors during the tyre test. Clever. But if I were the FIA I'd have them removed.

[screamingV16]

So Mercedes ran this weekend with an set of sensors on the car to then allow it to use those sensors during the tyre test. Clever. But if I were the FIA I'd have them removed.

 

On what basis... you don't like Mercedes  

[Hellenic tifosi]

So Mercedes ran this weekend with an set of sensors on the car to then allow it to use those sensors during the tyre test. Clever. But if I were the FIA I'd have them removed.

 

Why? It was really clever on their part. Maybe Ferrari will use their hybrid 2018/19 front wing which they tried in FP1

[statman]

apparently Pietro Fittipaldi be the 2nd testdriver for Haas here

[Talisman]

You forgot today’s event


Jp

 

Any idea why they're running a Merc V8 rather than a Renault hybrid? 

[Danyy]

Any idea why they're running a Merc V8 rather than a Renault hybrid?

Sounds better

[Anja]

Any idea why they're running a Merc V8 rather than a Renault hybrid? 

 

These demo cars are usually a couple of years old and it's not feasible to swap the engine.

[statman]

So Mercedes ran this weekend with an set of sensors on the car to then allow it to use those sensors during the tyre test. Clever. But if I were the FIA I'd have them removed.

 

Sensor trick could give Mercedes edge in F1 tyre test

[JonnyJ]

Why? It was really clever on their part. Maybe Ferrari will use their hybrid 2018/19 front wing which they tried in FP1

You had to race it to use it in the test, I think.

[Hellenic tifosi]

You had to race it to use it in the test, I think.

 

I think the exact wording is that no "new" parts can be tested, so what constitutes a "new" part is (as always) up to interpretation

[ANF]

These demo cars are usually a couple of years old and it's not feasible to swap the engine.

I would have loved to see Jimmie Johnson go out with the Honda engine and..................................................stop the car, please.

[EndlessMotion]

I think the exact wording is that no "new" parts can be tested, so what constitutes a "new" part is (as always) up to interpretation

 

I think it's more that any parts used have to have been raced, rather than simply "new" parts not being allowed. Might not be groundbreaking data they gather but any new data gained whilst your rivals miss out is valuable.

 

FIA making them remove the sensors would be ridiculous as it complies with the their own rules. F1 is always about interpreting the rules in your favour. Surprised it wasn't the likes of Red Bull that thought to do this to be honest.

[GrumpyYoungMan]

 

Sensor trick could give Mercedes edge in F1 tyre test

OR it is helping understand there heat and tyre problem with this years car?

[GrumpyYoungMan]

I think it's more that any parts used have to have been raced, rather than simply "new" parts not being allowed. Might not be groundbreaking data they gather but any new data gained whilst your rivals miss out is valuable.

 

FIA making them remove the sensors would be ridiculous as it complies with the their own rules. F1 is always about interpreting the rules in your favour. Surprised it wasn't the likes of Red Bull that thought to do this to be honest.

 

Because it doesn't suit there agenda?

[AnR]

OR it is helping understand there heat and tyre problem with this years car?

 

if you beleive Merc had tyre problems under 2019 with special tyres and special wheels you might have to rethink  some..

[AnR]

Because it doesn't suit there agenda?

 

They've been helping Merc since 2013 so what agenda are you talking about?

[pRy]

On what basis... you don't like Mercedes

I like Mercedes. Doesn't mean I can't think this is against the spirit of the rules. The FIA issues clarifications all the time. This should be one such time.

[screamingV16]

I like Mercedes. Doesn't mean I can't think this is against the spirit of the rules. The FIA issues clarifications all the time. This should be one such time.

 

You can think it's against the spirit of the rules, doesn't mean it is or that there is any tangible rules broken. Seems a rather obvious loophole Mercedes have spotted, surprised no one else has, they must have been sleeping. Besides, I don't see how FIA can't easily issue a clarification on this one without opening a massive can worms on what teams can or cannot run.

[Maustinsj]

Seems like a genius idea to me.

[AmonGods]

They've been helping Merc since 2013 so what agenda are you talking about

 

Laugh of the day ! 

[ANF]

I hope Alex Albon will appear from nowhere and replace Gelael in the Toro Rosso.

[Loosenut]

Warning:
As with every test, people try to claim a certain driver is 'faster' by looking at the leaderboard. While we all know this is nonsense, it will probably still be mentioned...

Kubica is faster than Stroll.

Edited by Loosenut, 26 November 2018 - 20:11.

[Spillage]

Deletraz and Fittipaldi. What a vintage pair of names good and bad.

[Myrvold]

Deletraz and Fittipaldi. What a vintage pair of names good and bad.

 

And they are about as far away in skill as their most famous namesakes as well, towards each other!

[potmotr]

I hope Alex Albon will appear from nowhere and replace Gelael in the Toro Rosso.

 

I think Gelael's cash probably pays for the whole test for Toro Rosso!

[MaGiK]

Wakey wakey!

They are running for 2 hours allready ;) Heres   unofficial live timing for those interested.

http://directo.soymo...gn=directo_test

[Peat]

Any idea why they're running a Merc V8 rather than a Renault hybrid? 

 

Infinitely cheaper. 

[GrumpyYoungMan]

They've been helping Merc since 2013 so what agenda are you talking about?

They haven’t.

[GrumpyYoungMan]

Is RB using the Renault PU?

I guess they have too actually!

Edited by GrumpyYoungMan, 27 November 2018 - 07:43.

[FullOppositeLock]

Is RB using the Renault PU?

I guess they have too actually!

Yes, of course

[Peat]

 

Raikkonen sustains his lifeforce by feeding on others youth. 

[Danyy]

So Vettel into the wall to trigger second red flag.. who caused the first one?

Edit : it was Pietro Fittipaldi

Edited by Danyy, 27 November 2018 - 08:20.

[SophieB]

Frankie Mao‏ @FrankestFrankie 6m6 minutes ago

More

Second red flag in first day #AbuDhabiTest after Vettel spun and hit the wall at T1. With the Ferrari car back to garage, the marshals are repairing the barrier now

[screamingV16]

 

Frankie Mao‏ @FrankestFrankie 6m6 minutes ago

More

Second red flag in first day #AbuDhabiTest after Vettel spun and hit the wall at T1. With the Ferrari car back to garage, the marshals are repairing the barrier now

 

 

 

Vettel trying out his 2019 crash package already?

[efuloni]

Well, its nonsense and all, but:
.
"George Russell ya es más rápido que Stroll y Sirotkin en los Libres 1, 2 y 3 del GP de Abu Dabi. Está a 1,3 segundos del registro de clasificación, que se disputó al anochecer (pista más fría, más rápida)."
.
En: Russel is already faster than Stroll and Sirotkin in FP 1, 2 and 3. He is 1.3 slower than quali, that is by night, with a colder ground.

[statman]

Here’s who’s driving today:

Mercedes: Valtteri Bottas
Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel
Red Bull: Max Verstappen
Force India: Sergio Perez / Lance Stroll
Renault: Nico Hulkenberg
Toro Rosso: Sean Galael
Haas: Pietro Fittipaldi
McLaren: Lando Norris

Williams: George Russell / Robert Kubica
Sauber: Kimi Raikkonen

 

A reminder: no 2019 components can be used during the test. Only raced 2018 stuff.

Edited by statman, 27 November 2018 - 09:28.

[Danyy]

Lance witnessing the full firing power of his new teammate

[string158]

are there any sites with updates / times?

[thuGG]

http://directo.soymotor.com/

[screamingV16]

are there any sites with updates / times?

 

Yeas, it's even linked on this page!

[string158]

http://directo.soymotor.com/

 

Thanks!

 

 

Yeas, it's even linked on this page!

 

oops, my bad!

[Yoshi]

Based on AMuS - Bottas will drive both days for Mercedes

[Vesuvius]

Kimi's good friend Toni Vilander said that Kimi and Sauber have focused on Steering wheel setups and Kimi has given his ideas where he prefers buttons are located etc. Kimi said to Toni, that the steering is too light at the moment.

[string158]

Anyone know if TR are running the newer version of the Honda?