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#101 jstrains

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 14:35

Maybe Max vetoed him too... he is becoming an Alonso!


Edited by jstrains, 04 December 2018 - 14:54.


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#102 Jbleroi

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 14:37

Max vs Sainz was equally crazy .

Not even six pages debate over the whole season Sainz vs Hulk is not something to look forward to is it ?

 

going back on topic.... 

Seeing all the reactions here it must be clear that the only culprit is Max, he must have vetoed ricciardo's move to Ferrari  :drunk:  :drunk:  :drunk:  :drunk:  :drunk:  :drunk:  :drunk:  :drunk:  :drunk:  :drunk:  :drunk:



#103 zaviali

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 15:50

Well the honey badger is being cheeky here with these statements and more so being a bit disingenuous in saying that someone at Ferrari vetoed his move. Its plausible as you never know but looking at things from outside it must hurt not being valued as you would have liked and not being selected so my sympathies with the Dan, but top teams can be ruthless at times and political also. Personally, if someone compares Riccardo's move to Renault ve Hamilton's to Mercedes is good for conversation sake but not based on fact and reality. Mercedes had Ross Brawn and at Renault there is a clown in the name of Cyril so no comparison there but more so Mercedes were investing heavily and gearing to future reg changes, something which so far we haven't been able to see at Renault. Coming back to the topic, Daniel had his hands full dealing with Max and wanted a change but unfortunately Ferrari found in grown talent in Charles so gotta say luck was also to blame for Riccardo. My best wishes to one the best overtakers on the grid but I found his particular statement about Ferrari vetoing to be rather cheeky.

#104 lbennie

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 23:24

Every Dan thread is mostly filled with salty Max fans on here now. I'll see ya'll next season.


Edited by lbennie, 04 December 2018 - 23:26.


#105 baddog

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 23:56

lol not wrong really.

 

Anyway, next year has so much promise, lets just hope that a few of these potential new lineups and deals turn into performance, and Merc's party is finally over at the hands of someone! hell maybe even Renault will come good and it will be Dan and Hulk picking up podiums some weekends and he wont regret the move one bit.



#106 Reddington

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 03:10

Every Dan thread is mostly filled with salty Max fans on here now. I'll see ya'll next season.

 

No salt here whatsoever. But then: I am fan of both.



#107 Maxioos

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 10:35

Every Dan thread is mostly filled with salty Max fans on here now. I'll see ya'll next season.

 

Most Dan fan's are also Max Fan's. 

 

It's not like there are not massive amount of "Dan fan's" postings in Max topics.



#108 AlexPrime

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 11:48

I love that in a thread which is basically Dan vs Seb, the most commented driver is... Max!  :clap:



#109 sopa

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 11:52

I love that in a thread which is basically Dan vs Seb, the most commented driver is... Max!  :clap:

 

The only question is why would Max veto Ricciardo in Ferrari? Maybe he doesn't want to see a driver he beat in a quicker car beating him?!  :eek: So he effectively sent Ricciardo into Renault - If the man I have beaten wants to drive elsewhere, he shall drive in an inferior car, not in a better car.



#110 Fatgadget

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 16:49

Most Dan fan's are also Max Fan's. 

 

It's not like there are not massive amount of "Dan fan's" postings in Max topics.

Really!

And you know that how exactly?



#111 Ramon69

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 18:17

https://www.f1-fansi...y-from-ferrari/

 

Hahaha! Read this. 

 

 

"Yes we talked about it, but I think they had already made arrangements with Leclerc. But I think I still have some more time in F1, so maybe another time it will work out differently." (Ricciardo)

 

IM Pretty sure that this rules out Vettel blocking his move to Ferrari.


Edited by Ramon69, 05 December 2018 - 18:18.


#112 Ramon69

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 18:25

The only question is why would Max veto Ricciardo in Ferrari? Maybe he doesn't want to see a driver he beat in a quicker car beating him?!  :eek: So he effectively sent Ricciardo into Renault - If the man I have beaten wants to drive elsewhere, he shall drive in an inferior car, not in a better car.

Are you sure Max is not Bernie in disguise? :D



#113 Maxioos

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 18:52

Really!

And you know that how exactly?

 

Because they stated it time and time again. even some postings above yours. "No salt here whatsoever. But then: I am fan of both." and in the VS a lot of Max fan's have said the same from start till end.



#114 RPM40

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 19:46

Because they stated it time and time again. even some postings above yours. "No salt here whatsoever. But then: I am fan of both." and in the VS a lot of Max fan's have said the same from start till end.


Most of the users saying they’re a fan of both clearly have a preference.

#115 Maxioos

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 20:22

Most of the users saying they’re a fan of both clearly have a preference.

 

Seems natural and normal too me. 

 

Edit: The way off topic this is shows this topic should die out soon.


Edited by Maxioos, 05 December 2018 - 20:24.


#116 Thatfastguy

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 20:39

Every Dan thread is mostly filled with salty Max fans on here now. I'll see ya'll next season.

Haha it really gets to you doesn’t it mate. You just can’t stop talking about it.

#117 Wolbo

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 22:04

Haha it really gets to you doesn’t it mate. You just can’t stop talking about it.

He sounds rather salty.



#118 Reddington

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 23:41

Haha it really gets to you doesn’t it mate. You just can’t stop talking about it.

Seems so. The thing is, Max fans have nothing to be salty about. Dan’s fans for the most part seem to be a bit saltier. Not a judgement, just an observation.

#119 baddog

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 00:13

Nice job guys, deliberately ruining a thread then declaring it ruined and over.



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#120 gowebber

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 03:09

Seems so. The thing is, Max fans have nothing to be salty about. Dan’s fans for the most part seem to be a bit saltier. Not a judgement, just an observation.

 

Not sure how you observe dan fans being saltier? Reading back through this thread it seems to be alot of negativity towards Dan from a number of Max fans. It seems to filter through every Dan related thread lately particularly from certain posters even though he is no longer vs Max nor with Red Bull. Sad really when this thread was about Dan, Vettel and Ferrari and hopefully it doesn't occur in the Hulk vs Dan thread.


Edited by gowebber, 06 December 2018 - 05:05.


#121 Reddington

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 03:37

It's a personal observation, not claiming it to be a fact.

 

In my opinion there are only a very few Dutch guys here who actually do so. The rest to me seem to be just fine and not salty at all. A shame that the many get blamed for what the very few do here, although you already acknowledge as well it's mostly down to a few posters here. You can hit ignore buttons on this forum if you don't want to be confronted with such comments.

 

It's a shame though. I see it on both sides. There are a few hardcore Ricciardo fan boys here that completely rub me the wrong way with their comments, but I tend to just not take their stuff into account. And exactly the same applies to some hard core Max fan boys, and they rub me the wrong way just the same. The thing is that those posts fuel most of the debate, and that's why most of these threads spin out of control.

 

They luckily are outnumbered by very reasonable autosport fans on both sides of this planet who can debate here just fine and are a pleasure to exchange thoughts with.


Edited by Reddington, 06 December 2018 - 04:01.


#122 lbennie

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 04:28

Reddington you have been crapping on Dan all season, always starting your post with "I am a fan of dan but"

 

give it up brother, no one buys that.



#123 Reddington

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 04:35

Reddington you have been crapping on Dan all season, always starting your post with "I am a fan of dan but"

give it up brother, no one buys that.

Quote me crapping. I dare you.
Or quote me saying: “but”.

You are fully entitled to your opinion about me, and I won’t try and change that opinion. It’s fine. But get your facts straight please.


Edited by Reddington, 06 December 2018 - 04:41.


#124 baddog

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 06:09

This is not a Max vs Dan thread. We dont need any more of those.

 

This is not a 'who is most awesome super balanced fan' contest either.

 

Pack. It. In.

 

I think most have by now concluded that Charles Leclerc, in an indirect way (by looking awesome in the Sauber) 'vetoed' Daniel for Ferrari.



#125 itsgreen84

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 09:54

Sorry I tried to read this entire topic, but what the F does Max have anything to do with this?



#126 Ragnar668

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 10:44

Sorry I tried to read this entire topic, but what the F does Max have anything to do with this?

 

 

Jstrains started it   :p 

 

Maybe Max vetoed him too... he is becoming an Alonso!



#127 Fatgadget

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 19:33

Because they stated it time and time again. even some postings above yours. "No salt here whatsoever. But then: I am fan of both." and in the VS a lot of Max fan's have said the same from start till end.

Your samples  from this forum alone?



#128 Maxioos

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 21:36

Your samples  from this forum alone?

 
You have to put it trough a translator yourself.
 
https://www.metronie...-is-in-ons-land
 
Ricciardo bedankt Nederlandse fans: "Zoveel aandacht en liefde"
Ricciardo thanks Dutch fans: "So much attention and love"
 
https://www.gpfans.c...acht-en-liefde/
 
I think this will settle it? 
 
Or,

 



#129 PlayboyRacer

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 23:31

I gotta say I think reality does rub salt in the wounds a touch for the Ricciardo fanboys. I am a fan... but thats opposed to a 'fanboy'.

Verstappen is the faster driver. On pure pace. There isn't much in it... but there doesn't need to be. The evidence is there.

I said from the beginning it was a Senna and Prost scenario, with Daniel quite clearly playing the 'Prost' part. In equal cars vying for a championship Daniel can beat Max... but it won't be through just sheer speed. Daniel would have to maximise other areas and he has the talent and qualities to do that.

Max reminds me alot of Hamilton at an early age. Thats a scary proposition if he evolves at the same rate and can nail his career decisions.

Edited by PlayboyRacer, 06 December 2018 - 23:32.


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Posted 07 December 2018 - 11:54

We stil on this off topic Max vs everything bs??? 

Wake us up when we are done with it please. 



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Posted 07 December 2018 - 12:47

I don't know why people use the word veto, there is no need for any veto in current F1, written in the contract or just a verbal agreement. It's common sense that pairing certain drivers will cause a mess or a lot of stress in the team, team principals don't have what it takes to keep some drivers under control , so they rather not take the chance even if it will produce an spectacle for F1.

 

I don't think any driver has the power to veto anyone, but they will find their way to let the team principal what they think about certain drivers, sometimes they are asked in the first place.



#132 Maxioos

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 14:22

We stil on this off topic Max vs everything bs??? 

Wake us up when we are done with it please. 

 

No, it was about some Ric. fan's or anti Max people who claiming Dutch/Max fan's can't or are not Ric. fans and dismissing it. They don't come now to say, oke, i/we where wrong. It's like they think they have the single right to be a Ric. fan or have the single right to have a opinion about a Ric. related subject.  

 

Not once it has been the Max fan's (or Max and Ric fan's) who brought Max in this topic. It have been other who brought up Max fan's and Max as driver in the topic. Nobody else. Calling me or other than salty, but not responding now makes just the point who really is salty  imo.

 

I have al the right (and duty) to answer on a question with a underlying indication my claim wasn't correct and false. That's what i did. You can't blame me for that.

 

:cool:


Edited by Maxioos, 07 December 2018 - 14:23.


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Posted 07 December 2018 - 14:43

No, it was about some Ric. fan's or anti Max people who claiming Dutch/Max fan's can't or are not Ric. fans and dismissing it. They don't come now to say, oke, i/we where wrong. It's like they think they have the single right to be a Ric. fan or have the single right to have a opinion about a Ric. related subject.  

 

Not once it has been the Max fan's (or Max and Ric fan's) who brought Max in this topic. It have been other who brought up Max fan's and Max as driver in the topic. Nobody else. Calling me or other than salty, but not responding now makes just the point who really is salty  imo.

 

I have al the right (and duty) to answer on a question with a underlying indication my claim wasn't correct and false. That's what i did. You can't blame me for that.

 

:cool:

 

Actually I can, since its the same users over and over (and I dont really care who's fan they are although its obvious in most cases) that turn every single thread that contains anything that have to do with RIC or Bulls or even Honda and Renault nowadays into Max White Knight Order. 

I like Max myself and I am already a fan but I dont think of him as an attention w***re and  dont understand why some of his fanbois have to be one. 

 

I read the topic from the start and its hard to follow with all the bs flying around.

Nothing personal,I like most of your posts, but then again when its off topic and on the same "ultimate defender" narrative it becomes boring and annoying to others.

I swear if I could start a topic called just "Max" I would get 5 replies in the first 30 seconds by the time I finish his name on the title.... all by the same ppl.



#134 Maxioos

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 15:33

Actually I can, since its the same users over and over (and I dont really care who's fan they are although its obvious in most cases) that turn every single thread that contains anything that have to do with RIC or Bulls or even Honda and Renault nowadays into Max White Knight Order. 

I like Max myself and I am already a fan but I dont think of him as an attention w***re and  dont understand why some of his fanbois have to be one. 

 

I read the topic from the start and its hard to follow with all the bs flying around.

Nothing personal,I like most of your posts, but then again when its off topic and on the same "ultimate defender" narrative it becomes boring and annoying to others.

I swear if I could start a topic called just "Max" I would get 5 replies in the first 30 seconds by the time I finish his name on the title.... all by the same ppl.

 

The problem (not really problem for me, but observation/conclusion) is the critic is far too one sided.

 

For instance, the backless i have gotten for weeks/month for predicting and underlying extensively with points why Ric. would go to Renault wasn't mild. Now the same people are total pro renault, pro this choice but the "critical points" in the analyse that made my conclusion of the prediction they keep dismissing. They (some) keep for instance saying he didn't go to the other 2 because "no 2 nr1 drivers" while all facts say difference (Toto wanted Max next to Hamilton for instance). In the VS there was a lot of double fan's, of course little more one than other, that's from both sides. But if than here a critical statement about Ric. or this subject is made by a (also) Max fan, than others bring that part to the forefront, not the point made by that poster, but his fanboyism of a other driver.

 

Reddington challenges Ibennie here on this page, It's Ibennie who makes the accusation, It's Ibennie who makes the (also) Max fan defend himself. It's Ibennie who than doesn't respond by acknowledge his wrong accusation and or deliver the asked proof. But, it's the (also) Max fan that's getting the blame making all about Max.

 

The once i respond on where all because they make clear assuming i made up bullshit, of course i have to respond on that. It where also ?, so a response is also nice to give than.

 

Really!

And you know that how exactly?

 

Seems to me he shouldn't ask that question because made it already clear, posting he responded on and previous page one posting about it. Like i made clear in that answer.

 

Than he comes back with a new assuming bullshit post/response from me

 

Your samples  from this forum alone?

 
My final response made him not again ask same offtopic assuming question, but if he didn't make those assuming questions that i make up bullshit, there would have been by now 4 or 5 postings less from me on this page.
 
It seems to me, these 2 examples are clear that it are not Max fan's who make it a Max topic.
 
Edit: Of course all far of topic, but that's already for pages. Also natural consequence for closing the VS topic i think. Some thoughts and conversations and same interested people still have to find their way on the forum and by keeping responding too each other just because a respond is better than a ignore of the too respond posting like this one.

Edited by Maxioos, 07 December 2018 - 15:43.


#135 goldenboy

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Posted 07 December 2018 - 20:05

Off topic is correct.

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 07:28

The problem is the RIC vs VER main thread was closed WAAAY too early, while all the others remained open.  :down:

 

There was thus no closure, no acceptance, no full review of all seasons, race by race, element by element, minutiae by minutiae. No data analysis,  no hellos, no goodbyes...........nothing.

 

Closed way too early, hence it's spilling onto every other thread that mentions either of them in any way.

 

And yeah I know we were "authorised" to start a new thread, but why TF should we? That thread was where it all needed to be.

 

End rant.  :cool:



#137 Maxioos

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 07:40

The problem is the RIC vs VER main thread was closed WAAAY too early, while all the others remained open.  :down:

 

There was thus no closure, no acceptance, no full review of all seasons, race by race, element by element, minutiae by minutiae. No data analysis,  no hellos, no goodbyes...........nothing.

 

Closed way too early, hence it's spilling onto every other thread that mentions either of them in any way.

 

And yeah I know we were "authorised" to start a new thread, but why TF should we? That thread was where it all needed to be.

 

End rant.  :cool:

 

Totally agree!! I have made 2 complains about that by the moderators. That's why i started the exit Dan topic to say goodbye. had responded to Moderator would start with sofa if came, but took that long, i thought, possible not this year, so lets use this.


Edited by Maxioos, 08 December 2018 - 07:41.