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[Henri Greuter]

It might be the 1971 McNamara:

the 1970 McNamara was more beautiful indeed.....
But only a bit....

[kayemod]

the 1970 McNamara was more beautiful indeed.....
But only a bit....

 

 

 

This view looks much more like the photo that originally inspired me, in what I guess must have been some time in the early 70s. Those aerodynamic extensions look much larger in this view, and my first 1/32nd scale model was exaggerated, but not hugely so. My second larger version was really no more than a caricature, though so were most of the cars it raced with, so I got away with it.

 

From what I can remember, slot racing rules would accept cars that had been practiced but not raced, though I don't think I had any evidence for what the McNamara had actually done. You're the Indycar expert Henri, can you tell us more about this car and whether it passed Indy scrutineering, and whether it ever raced in this form?

[Henri Greuter]

 
 
This view looks much more like the photo that originally inspired me, in what I guess must have been some time in the early 70s. Those aerodynamic extensions look much larger in this view, and my first 1/32nd scale model was exaggerated, but not hugely so. My second larger version was really no more than a caricature, though so were most of the cars it raced with, so I got away with it.
 
From what I can remember, slot racing rules would accept cars that had been practiced but not raced, though I don't think I had any evidence for what the McNamara had actually done. You're the Indycar expert Henri, can you tell us more about this car and whether it passed Indy scrutineering, and whether it ever raced in this form?

Hi Kayemod,

We have fortunately more Indy specialists on board over here.
This car did indeed race, in fact, two of them did. Mario's team mate was Steve Krisiloff who drove a twin numbered 20. Steve finished 31st, Mario 30th... Does this suggest a relation as of why?
Yes.

Steve had an oil leak and spun off. But because of that other drivers pun off as well and Mario was one of them.....

[sabrejet]

Are we not now wayyyyyyy off-topic? Interesting though they are, these last few shots don't in any way qualify for inclusion in this thread?

[kayemod]

Are we not now wayyyyyyy off-topic? Interesting though they are, these last few shots don't in any way qualify for inclusion in this thread?

 

You're absolutely right, and since a bit of a discussion has now appeared into the McNamara Indy cars, maybe one of our ever-attentive mods could separate all this rubbish into a new McNamara thread. I know I started it, but I was initially just agreeing with a post that sterzo made on here about some of us posting to champion cars that had appealed to us in the past for whatever reason, not because they were "Achingly, timelessly gorgeous", but because we just liked them. It seems that there wasn't much special about these particular Indy cars, but they made an impression on me for reasons concerning their looks, though certainly not their awesome beauty.

[sabrejet]

Well maybe a, "Not attractive but I like it" thread. March-BMW GTP as No.1

[Terry Walker]

Just thinking sideways a bit:

 

[Jim Thurman]

 I remember now, that we called it "The Allstate Special". Happy and innocent times.

 

 

This makes me wonder...by any chance was it Mickey Thompson's "Allstate Special" instead of the McNamara? You did mention the 1960s, which would fit. Otherwise, coming up with "Allstate Special" at random seems a bit odd.

 

EDIT: I'll let someone else contribute photos.

Edited by Jim Thurman, 12 July 2019 - 16:26.

[sabrejet]

This makes me wonder...by any chance was it Mickey Thompson's "Allstate Special" instead of the McNamara? You did mention the 1960s, which would fit. Otherwise, coming up with "Allstate Special" at random seems a bit odd.

 

EDIT: I'll let someone else contribute photos.

 

Could this move elsewhere please? Or stop posting stuff on ugly indycars! (but good-looking indy/USAC cars etc most welcome)

[charles r]

[Jim Thurman]

Could this move elsewhere please? Or stop posting stuff on ugly indycars! (but good-looking indy/USAC cars etc most welcome)

 

I concur about the thread drift and how it should be over in the appropriate thread, but since the mods haven't relocated it, I simply replied to the pertinent post where it was.

[Ray Bell]

Originally posted by Terry Walker
Just thinking sideways a bit:
 

I can hear those big radial engines now...

My aunt used to live under the flight path into Kingsford Smith Airport, right through the Connie, Electra, DC3, Friendship and 707 era, that house copped a real shaking with these things coming in to land.

[Lee Nicolle]

Just thinking sideways a bit:

 

The Conny is interesting but never beautifull. Looks far better in the air as well. Looks dorky on its wheels.

I have been following the Kermit Weeks Fantasy of Flight website for a while. 

As well as the Plane Savers DC3 /C47

[sabrejet]

I won't accept anything on a Connie as less than perfection: when they put weather radar on they looked even better. And I love that 'high and mighty' stance on the ground. The cambered nosewheels too. The only dilemma is which looks best: Connie, Super Connie or Starliner?

 

Mind you the DH Albatross is a looker too...

[Bikr7549]

Agree on the Connie in every respect sabrejet! That plane is the definition of this thread.

[Bob Riebe]

[lyntonh]

Enough of your fancy professional pictures of beauty !!

 

Here's the real thing in period, at Essendon Airport in Melbourne,

taken by a freckle faced little kid, who turned into me !!

 

[charles r]

[Glengavel]

I won't accept anything on a Connie as less than perfection: when they put weather radar on they looked even better. And I love that 'high and mighty' stance on the ground. The cambered nosewheels too. The only dilemma is which looks best: Connie, Super Connie or Starliner?

Mind you the DH Albatross is a looker too...

I believe the answer to your dilemma is the Vickers VC10.

Edited by Glengavel, 14 July 2019 - 15:23.

[proviz]

 

The truly great Lotus 79 shape was that winter testing version which was never raced. So really, a beautiful idea until the realities took over and shape was sacrificed for p e r f o r m a n c e. Just like it always should be - Hypercar gnomes, take note!

Edited by proviz, 14 July 2019 - 16:37.

[kayemod]

I believe the answer to your dilemma is the Vickers VC10.

 

 

 

And your prayers are answered, here's a photo of the majestic VC10 with a few small red planes snapping at its tail, some lovely Peak District scenery included as a bonus. That's just typical of life's irritations though, you're out on a gentle stroll in the Derbyshire countryside, and the tranquility is disturbed by these hooligans blasting overhead.

Edited by kayemod, 14 July 2019 - 19:31.

[Duc-Man]

 

I don't know...I'm more the De Havilland Comet guy.

 

 

Lets go back to cars: Serenissima 308/V

 

[sabrejet]

 

 

Lets go back to cars: Serenissima 308/V

 

 

Oh I say!!!      

[Duc-Man]

A couple more:

 

Borgward Isabella Coupé

 

Opel Moonlight Roadster:

 

 

 

Opel CD:

 

[charles r]